missing plane ting

[turtledude]

Before he died this guy named Ben Rich of Lockheed Skunkworks mentioned: "anything you can imagine, we already know how to do." He said a few other prophetic things as well. There were a lot of anomalies in 911, and much has been written about the Philadelphia experiment and purported things afterward, as well as anomalies around the Bagdad airport after the US attacked it. There doesn't have to be any "wreckage".

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This is my personal favorite... a guy crawls under the sink to fix a pipe and enters a time portal, exits...and meets himself as an older man, and films it!

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Disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 begins to demand supernatural explanations


As the search for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 continues to absolutely baffle investigators, explanations for what might have happened to the flight have entered the realm of the supernatural. Astonishingly, the Washington Post is now reporting that smartphones of some passengers who boarded the flight are still active and connected to the 'net even though the plane they were on has vanished.

As WashPost reports:

One of the most eerie rumors came after a few relatives said they were able to call the cellphones of their loved ones or find them on a Chinese instant messenger service called QQ that indicated that their phones were still somehow online.

A migrant worker in the room said that several other workers from his company were on the plane, including his brother-in-law. Among them, the QQ accounts of three still showed that they were online, he said Sunday afternoon.

Adding to the mystery, other relatives in the room said that when they dialed some passengers' numbers, they seemed to get ringing tones on the other side even though the calls were not picked up.

Four mind-bending possibilities, none of which seem possible
This brings up the immediate bind-bending question of how electronic devices on a commercial flight that vanished still appear to be connected to the internet. The explanations for this defy everything we think we know about reality:

• Mind-bending possibility #1, the "kidnapped" explanation: The plane somehow landed somewhere without leaving a radar signature of any kind, all the passengers are being held hostage there (and are thus still alive), their mobile devices are somehow within cell tower range and yet for some reason have not been confiscated. (This explanation seems extremely unlikely.)

• Mind-bending possibility #2, the "Stargate" explanation: A teleportation portal of some kind exists in the skies, through which the plane inadvertently flew and was teleported somewhere else. Yet, astonishingly, electromagnetic signals can still make it through the portal, and the two sides of the portal remain in contact across the radio spectrum. (This explanation sounds like pure science fiction and also seems extremely unlikely, yet we must at least acknowledge that modern physics has already demonstrated the instantaneous teleportation of information across apparently infinite space due to the "non-locality" of entangled electrons as described in quantum theory.)

• Mind-bending possibility #3, the "failed search" explanation: This far more mundane explanation supposes that the massive, multi-day search for plane wreckage and debris simply hasn't stumbled upon the correct location yet. The fact that airplane black boxes broadcast homing signals adds to the skepticism that this explanation holds any water, as it is extremely unlikely that the airplane's black boxes could have been obliterated. Nevertheless, this explanation still seems far more believable than supernatural explanations.

• Mind-bending possibility #4, the "advanced military weapons" explanation: Some military entity, either human or non-human, was testing an advanced weapon capable of either instantly obliterating large airborne objects or teleporting them to another place (or dimension). This explanation seems incredibly far-fetched, but then again, barely a hundred years ago, so did the idea that machines could ever fly at all. Related to this is the legend of the Philadelphia Experiment which some believe caused a U.S. Navy ship to vanish and reappear.

We must first stick to mundane explanations until more searches can be conducted
As someone who is trained in the sciences, I remain very skeptical that Flight 370 vanished for supernatural reasons, yet its disappearance unquestionably defies all known conventional explanations so far.

The vanishing of aircraft over the ocean is not without precedent, either. According to historical records, the so-called "Bermuda Triangle" causes both ships and aircraft to vanish for reasons that defy apparent scientific explanation. While the disappearance of ships can theoretically be explained by underwater volcanoes emitting large quantities of gas that mix with ocean waters and cause ships to immediately lose bouyancy, there has never been any convincing scientific explanation behind the disappearance of the many aircraft there. Click here for a list of the top 10 mysteries of vanishing aircraft, including some lost in the Bermuda Triangle.

With each passing day that this search goes on without finding any debris from the fight, it is incredibly reasonable to at least entertain supernatural possibilities in the quest for answers. At some point, if no debris ever appears, we must expand our window of possibilities to include what military strategists refer to as "unknown unknowns."

http://www.naturalnews.com/044260_Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_370_supernatural_explanations.html

[blugiant]

to me if you hit a flying plane with a powerful laser it would break it up and you would have to be able to hit all the individual pieces as well to get rid of them...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MJPpWNxvZo

[RichD]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MJPpWNxvZo

it didnt answer my question

but you can pursue that angle.

[RichD]

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/03/13/how-mh370-could-have-disappeared-and-why-investigators-have-few-clues-on-where-it-went/

interesting .. explains a lot about how things actually work

[RichD]

Maybe they looking in the wrong place

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-search-widens-west-1.2570313

..That scenario would make finding the jetliner a vastly more difficult task, and raises the possibility that searchers are currently looking in the wrong place for the Boeing 777 and its 229 passengers and crew.

[Wahalla]

Two weeks ago i was on helicopter in the Barents Sea to visit a vessel...

Each person wore a high visibility survival suit with supplementary breathing assistance with a personal beacon locator.... the helicopter had a search and rescue double siting on the tarmac....We plotted a course that optimised the time close to land.... the helicopter had an automatic deployable bouy in the event that it hit water.... Each person on the helicopter was trained in cold water survival, watched a training film lasting 30 minutes on the survival systems on the aircraft, features of the suit.. Pilots were restricted to half of those of airline pilot hours...No mobiles were allowed on the flight... all bags were searched...all passengers were searched... all personal medications was taken away....no magazines of newspapers were allowed, seats were fitted with 4 point harnesses.. each person had to have a medical certificate stating they were physically fit..


if people were serious about airplane safety they would apply the identical analogs, it would increase the costs and reduce travel...

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Search shifts west to Indian Ocean after Malaysia authorities say flight did NOT fly for 4 hours after disappearing — and photos of debris also not true

U.S. officials have 'indication' Malaysia Airlines jet may have crashed into Indian Ocean; Transportation Minister Hishammuddin Hussein says plane did not travel for hours off radar. Photos of debris released by China also not accurate, he said.



The search for a missing Malaysia Airlines flight shifted west Thursday, as the Pentagon moved the USS Kidd into the Indian Ocean after getting an "indication" the passenger jet may have crashed there.

A senior Pentagon official told ABC News, "We have an indication the plane went down in the Indian Ocean." There was no elaboration.

Earlier, Malaysian authorities debunked a report saying the mystery flight remained in the air several hours after disappearing — and said photos released by China do not show plane debris after all.

“The reports are inaccurate,” Transport Minister Hishammuddin Hussein said to reporters during a briefing.

The denial followed a Wall Street Journal story claiming U.S. officials said the Boeing 777 flew for as long as four hours after losing contact with air traffic controllers.

The story was based on two anonymous sources, and raised questions about why Flight MH370 would have been flying without ground contact and whether anyone in the cockpit was in control.

Hussein also debunked satellite images that purported to show debris from the doomed flight floating in the South China Sea. During a briefing at Kuala Lumpur International Airport, Hussein told reporters that the Chinese Embassy in Malaysia said the photos were released by mistake and did not actually show jetliner fragments.

The images, broadcast around the world since Wednesday, had raised short-lived hopes that the bizarre saga of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 would finally have an ending.

“There is nothing,” said Malaysia's civil aviation chief Azharuddin Abdul Rahman. “We went there, there is nothing.”

The hunt for Flight MH370 has been punctuated by false leads since it disappeared with 239 people aboard about an hour after leaving Kuala Lumpur for Beijing early Saturday.

ABC News reported Thursday that an oil rig worker off the Vietnam coast sent an email saying he saw the aircraft go down in flames, apparently in one piece. "I tried to contact the Malaysian and Vietnam (sic) officials several days ago," New Zealander Michael Jerome McKay emailed his bosses at Songa Mercur. "But I don't know if the message has been received," he wrote.

ABC's Bob Woodruff posted the note on Twitter and said he had verified McKay's employment and that his bosses had received the email.

Oil rig worker claims in employer confirmed letter-he saw the plane go down. Vietnamese say they found nothing @ABC pic.twitter.com/k8y02se9aZ
— Bob Woodruff (@BobWoodruff) March 12, 2014

The plane was heading northeast over the Gulf of Thailand toward Vietnam when it vanished. The last message from the cockpit was a casual farewell to traffic controllers: “All right, good night.”

Shortly after that it fell off commercial radar, but military authorities say it might have turned west and flown into the northern stretches of the Strait of Malacca based on unconfirmed traces seen on its air defense radar.

Dozens of ships and aircraft from 12 nations have been searching the Gulf of Thailand and the strait, but no trace has been found. The search area has grown to 35,800 square miles, an area about the size of Maine.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/malaysia-airlines-flight-370-flight-4-hours-disappeared-radar-official-article-1.1720105

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it didnt answer my question

but you can pursue that angle.

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[turtledude]

From an article in Veterans Today:

By Michael Shrimpton

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At 0130 hours local time last Saturday, March 8th (this is being written on the 15th) a Chinese SSK, believed to be a 636 Kilo class, shot down a Malaysian airliner, Boeing 777-2H6ER, 9M-MRO, Captain Zaharie Shah in command, off the coast of South Vietnam. The Chinese murdered a total of 239 people, all the souls on board.

The Kilo surfaced but stayed hull-down, i.e. presented a low radar signature. She fired a Chinese-made copy of the excellent Hughes Aircraft AIM-54A Phoenix missile, supplied to Iran in the 1970s. The Chinese version appears to be multi-mode, with infra-red, terminal radar and semi-active homing guidance. It appears as though semi-active mode was selected. The Kilo was to the starboard of the 777’s track, possibly having sortied from the Hainan Submarine Base. Interception range appears to have been fairly short, perhaps 25 miles, well within the capabilities of the Phoenix, which famously could engage targets over 100 nautical miles from their F-14 mother-ships.

Captain Shah appears to have seen the incoming. Its exhaust trail would have been clearly visible at night. If the missile was in semi-active homing mode and he did not deactivate his radar then it would have locked on, following him as he turned back toward the Malaysian coast. The Chinese sub jammed his HF and VHF frequencies, as did the Iranian Kilo in the Air France AF447 shootdown in 2009, preventing a Mayday call.

More here:

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/03/15/the-shootdown-of-malaysian-airlines-flight-mh370/

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Landlord Luciano - We need peace

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iqv4i2Lk07w

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Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 now clearly a government cover-up: All evidence contradicts official story


The "official" story of what happened to Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 is now a blatant cover-up. After an endless stream of wild incompetence from the Malaysian military and government concerning the radar signature of the missing flight, we are now told by the Malaysian government that the flight "went down over the southern Indian Ocean" and that all lives are lost.

This explanation smacks of an obvious cover-up for several crucial reasons, all of which are now being utterly ignored by the conventional press:

#1) If the plane went down in the ocean, it would have broken up on impact and debris would be easily spotted

A Boeing 777 does not -- and cannot -- survive impact with the ocean and remain intact. It simply does not have the structural integrity to survive such an impact, which is a lot like hitting a cement wall at terminal velocity.

If Flight 370 hit the ocean, it would have been broken into tens of thousands of pieces, many of which obviously float on water (such as the seat cushions) and would be witnessed washing up on regional shores or easily spotted by search teams.

The lack of such debris is strong support that Flight 370 did not crash into the Indian Ocean as we are now being told.

#2) The plane continued broadcasting data to Boeing for 4 - 7 hours

Remember the fact that the airplane was broadcasting data for at least 4 hours after the transponder was turned off? This fact is now suddenly being dumped from history and from our memories as if it never happened.

We already know Flight 370 flew for 4 - 7 hours after diverging from its planned flight course. We already know this could have taken the plane to Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran or even North Korea. (Click here to see my map showing possible destinations.) The fact that the plane broadcast this data for hours is not in dispute!

Wall Street Journal: "U.S. investigators suspect that Malaysia Airlines 3786. Flight 370 stayed in the air for up to four hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, according to two people familiar with the details, raising the possibility that the plane could have flown on for hundreds of additional miles under conditions that remain murky."

The Guardian: "MH370: Missing plane could have kept flying four hours after disappearing, US investigators say... Engine data shows plane could have kept flying for four hours after disappearing"

Washington Post: " the plane may have flown for at least four hours after it dropped from civilian radar, U.S. officials said Thursday. A senior U.S. official said the information came from data sent via a satellite communications system by Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370. That data has convinced U.S. officials that the plane’s engines continued to run for at least four hours after all other communication was lost."

So how does the Malaysian government now explain this? They don't. They simply gloss over this fact and hope we all forget it. They claim the plane went down in the Indian Ocean without flying very far at all. This makes no sense whatsoever and cannot be reconciled with the flight broadcast data received by Boeing.

#3) There is ZERO evidence the flight crashed into the Indian Ocean

What is the Malaysian government's evidence that Flight 370 ended in the Indian Ocean and "all lives are lost?"

They have no evidence. They have no bodies. They have no debris, no flight recorders, no sightings and no radar signatures that would put the aircraft in the Indian Ocean.

They have zero evidence. So they are now floating a cover-up to try to put this issue to rest in order to distract from their own incompetence and their bizarre failure to track the radar signature of an aircraft flying well within the range of their radar.

In fact, the only debris floating around right now is made of all the fragments of the Malaysian government's inept cover-up attempts that smack of a true "rookie attempt" to roll out a cover-up that's full of holes.

This utter lack of evidence did not prevent the Malaysian government from announcing, "we have to assume beyond any reasonable doubt that MH370 has been lost and that none of those on board survived." (USA Today)

#4) Another crucial fact: It's clear that the transponder was manually turned off in order to hide the plane's new flight path

If the pilot of Flight 370 was suicidal and wanted to fly the plane into the ocean, there would be no need to switch off the transponder before doing so.

In fact, there would be no need to make all the complex, intentional flight maneuvers which Flight 370 clearly took as has been widely reported.

The fact that the transponder was manually disconnected followed by the plane making deliberate maneuvers that put it on a new flight path is near-absolute proof that the persons controlling the aircraft had no intention of flying the plane into the ocean. It's also strong evidence that they did not want governments to track their new flight direction and destination.

Without question, they intended to take the plane somewhere else and land it somewhere else, which is exactly why the aircraft continued broadcasting flight performance data to Boeing for 4-7 hours.

The Malaysian government is now hoping you forget all these facts in believing their bizarre cover-up explanation.

Malaysia's 9/11 official story
Flight 370 is now Malaysia's 9/11, complete with nonsense "official" stories and attempts to memory hole all the facts that originally came out in the mainstream media.

We are soon going to be told outrageous lies like "Oh, Boeing never received any flight data broadcasts from the aircraft, didn't you know?"

Anyone who now cites all the facts which have already been reported in support of the theory that Flight 370 continued on to another destination will be called "conspiracy theorists" and kooks.

The mainstream media will start scrubbing stories and retroactively altering its reporting to match the "official" government story. We've seen this before. It's how governments and media outlets sweep 239 lives under the rug and try to discredit anyone who asks skeptical, scientifically-sound questions based on the actual evidence.

In truth, the Malaysian government's bizarre new claim that Flight 370 "ended in the Indian Ocean" is the biggest conspiracy theory of all. It's sheer lunacy to reach such a conclusion without compelling evidence to support it, especially in light of all the other evidence that Flight 370 continued on for hours after the transponder was intentionally disabled.

Most likely explanation at this point: The aircraft is being turned into a weapon
Based on the Malaysian government's obvious cover-up attempt (which is incredibly transparent and childish as far as cover-ups go), it now seems increasingly likely that the Flight 370 aircraft has, indeed, been delivered to a rogue nation where it is being transformed into a weapon.

Malaysia has already proven that it is so incompetent that it cannot track huge aircraft flying across its airspace. This means a weaponized Boeing 777 is essentially a "stealth aircraft" to the Malaysian military -- a shocking revelation about military incompetence and lack of national security readiness in that nation.

Apparently, this same Boeing 777 can also fly undetected across the airspace of other nations -- most likely by "shadowing" existing flights while turning off its own transponder.

Whoever took control of Flight 370 now has a massive stealth weapon which an incredibly long flight range. This aircraft can now be outfitted with nuclear weapons and dispatched to almost any desirable target anywhere in the world, including cities like New York and Washington D.C., unfortunately.

I was the first journalist in the world to suggest that Flight 370 had been captured and turned into a weapon. That same story was also the very first story to suggest Flight 370 passengers may still be alive.

I still believe Flight 370 passengers may have survived the flight and the landing at the new destination, but now that world governments are rolling out their "official" stories, there is no question in my mind that they will do anything to support those official stories, even if it means discarding the lives of all the passengers. Sadly, I am now forced to recalculate the odds of Flight 370 passengers being found alive at no better than 1 in 5. (It was previously as high as 1 in 2.) But it is not zero! There is a realistic chance the passengers are being kept alive as some sort of international bargaining chip.

You can now expect the governments and media outlets of the world to start scrubbing their archived stories and statements, altering the "news history" to fit this new Malaysian government cover-up.

I wouldn't even put it past these people to now secretly sink some aircraft debris in the Indian Ocean so they can "find it" and thereby complete the cover-up.

If there's one thing I've learned in all my years as an award-winning investigative journalist, it's that you should never trust official stories... especially when they contradict all the earlier evidence.

http://www.naturalnews.com/044430_Malaysia_Airlines_official_story_government_cover-up.html