Watch-the US elections going to be suspended

**Tuff Gong** · 09-26-2008, 01:31 AM

Re: Watch-the US elections going to be suspended

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It was impossible for Oswald to fire off three shots in seven seconds - not even FBI marksmen could do it.
</div></div>Lee Oswald was a Marskman! He was naturally good but what is even more his army score card proved it. </div></div>

Ah, TuffGong that's where the disinfo kicks in.

Oswald, according to his marine records and according to people in the marine corp who knew him, was a poor shot.
And he WASN'T a marksman: he was a radar operator. Have you been reading books by that government apologist - who ALWAYS turns up on TV interviews redgarding his subject - Gerald Posner? </div></div>..are you ignoring his own scorecards?

**Derek** · 09-26-2008, 01:34 AM

Re: Watch-the US elections going to be suspended

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Originally posted by Derek

It was impossible for Oswald to fire off three shots in seven seconds - not even FBI marksmen could do it.
</div></div>Lee Oswald was a Marskman! He was naturally good but what is even more his army score card proved it. </div></div>

Ah, TuffGong that's where the disinfo kicks in.

Oswald, according to his marine records and according to people in the marine corp who knew him, was a poor shot.
And he WASN'T a marksman: he was a radar operator. Have you been reading books by that government apologist - who ALWAYS turns up on TV interviews redgarding his subject - Gerald Posner? </div></div>..are you ignoring his own scorecards?

The ones presented are not real.
Oswald had what they called 'maggie's drawers', which means he was useless on the rifle range.

If there's one thing that I have studied and corroborated over the last 20 years, it's the murder of JFK.

**Tuff Gong** · 09-26-2008, 01:38 AM

Re: Watch-the US elections going to be suspended

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The ones presented are not real.
Oswald had what they called 'maggie's drawers', which means he was useless on the rifle range.

If there's one thing that I have studied and corroborated over the last 20 years, it's the murder of JFK.</div></div>...once had Mexican Girl called Maggie and no Oswald was not wearing her drawz, if he tried they would have fell past his knees and tripped him up!

**evanovitch** · 09-26-2008, 01:39 AM

Bush Postpones 2008 Election By Stephen Gillers

<span style="font-weight: bold">This article appeared in the August 14, 2006 edition of The Nation.</span>http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060814/gillers

What Did 'Four Years' Mean in 1789?

WASHINGTON, June 21, 2008. <span style="font-weight: bold">President Bush, citing his authority as Commander in Chief of the armed forces and his inherent constitutional power over foreign affairs, today ordered a postponement of the 2008 presidential election in order "to protect the American people in our war on terror." </span>

In a speech during a surprise visit to Baghdad, where he celebrated the summer solstice with the troops, Mr. Bush told the nation that the election will be "rescheduled as soon as a change in leadership does not create a security threat and not a second later. When the Iraqis stand up, we'll vote."

"Elections are important," the President acknowledged. "I know that. I believe in elections. I'm President because of an election, sort of. But protecting the nation from another 9/11 is more important than holding an election precisely on time."

The President noted that as Commander in Chief he had already approved telephone wiretapping without court warrant, incarcerated alleged "enemy combatants" indefinitely without trial and, in a February 2002 order, now rescinded, had authorized the armed forces to ignore the Geneva Conventions when "consistent with military necessity," so long as everyone was treated "humanely."

"If I can do all that, I can defer an election," the President said. "Look, as between not voting on time and getting locked up without all those Geneva rules and such, which is worse?"

In a Washington press conference following the President's speech, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales laid out the legal basis for his department's conclusion that the President could postpone the election.

"Legally, it's simple," Mr. Gonzales said. "It depends on what the meaning of 'four years' is. The Constitution says the President 'shall hold his office during the term of four years.' It does not say 'only four years' or 'four years and not a day more.' The Framers intended 'four years' to be a preference, not a rigid number. We should not take it literally any more than the words 'hold his office' means no woman can be President. A woman is running now.

"Time meant something different in 1789," Mr. Gonzales added. "This was before airline schedules and self-winding watches. People didn't run their lives by the clock. Many Americans didn't have clocks."

In a speech on the Senate floor, Joseph Lieberman (IND-Conn.) supported the President's decision. "While I do not believe we should lightly suspend the exercise of the franchise," he said, "protection of the nation cannot be and must not be a partisan issue. As Americans, we can all agree that security is the most important job of a President. We can have a country without an election, but we cannot have an election without a country. It's as simple as that."

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), the likely Democratic nominee, had no immediate comment, but her office said she will hold a news conference following the results of early polling. A spokesperson for her campaign, granted anonymity because she was not authorized to speak to the press about anything, said the senator "is absolutely opposed to postponing the election as such, but she is amenable to rescheduling the day designated for the actual vote. There is a difference."

Senator Arlen Specter (R-Pa.), chairman of the Judiciary Committee, said he was "troubled" that he had not been consulted on the President's decision. He vowed to "hold hearings following the day that should have been election day if I am chairman of the committee at that time. Unfortunately, we're backlogged on judicial nominations at the moment, and then there's the summer recess. People have plans and nonrefundable tickets."

At his press conference, Mr. Gonzales denied that the Supreme Court's 2006 rejection of military tribunals meant that the President could not delay an election. That decision, known as Hamdan, rested on federal statutes and the Geneva Accords. "Hamdan was about trials, not voting," he explained. "Geneva doesn't apply to voting. It's a mistake to confuse the two."

Asked if he expected a court challenge to the President's decision, Mr. Gonzales said he was "resigned to the prospect that some may cynically try to use this for their own political advantage." But he added that he was "confident that if the case reaches the Supreme Court, five Justices will agree with our interpretation of 'four years.'"

**Derek** · 09-26-2008, 01:44 AM

Re: Watch-the US elections going to be suspended

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The ones presented are not real.
Oswald had what they called 'maggie's drawers', which means he was useless on the rifle range.

If there's one thing that I have studied and corroborated over the last 20 years, it's the murder of JFK.</div></div>...once had Mexican Girl called Maggie and no Oswald was not wearing her drawz, if he tried they would have fell past his knees and tripped him up! </div></div>

But seriously Tuff, I'm pretty up on this. And on the subject of Mexico:

The group in Mexico City planned to assassinate JFK in Miami, Chicago or Dallas, using different gunmen in each case. The Miami plan failed because the Secret Service found out about it in advance and kept JFK out of the open.
The Chicago plan backfired when JFK cancelled his plans to attend the Army-Navy game at Soldiers Field in early November.
The group set up two assassination teams for Dallas. One was in Dealey Plaza; the second was near the International Trade Mart where JFK's luncheon speech was to be delivered.

**evanovitch** · 09-26-2008, 01:45 AM

Re: Bush Postpones 2008 Election By Stephen Gillers

well, is not a 'terror attack' BUT the economic crisis could be deemed a national security threat, soooooo anyting possible...

i find the writing of the article bak den timely not to mention down right creepy

**Tuff Gong** · 09-26-2008, 01:48 AM

Re: Watch-the US elections going to be suspended

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The ones presented are not real.
Oswald had what they called 'maggie's drawers', which means he was useless on the rifle range.

If there's one thing that I have studied and corroborated over the last 20 years, it's the murder of JFK.</div></div>...once had Mexican Girl called Maggie and no Oswald was not wearing her drawz, if he tried they would have fell past his knees and tripped him up! </div></div>

But seriously Tuff, I'm pretty up on this. And on the subject of Mexico:

The group in Mexico City planned to assassinate JFK in Miami, Chicago or Dallas, using different gunmen in each case. The Miami plan failed because the Secret Service found out about it in advance and kept JFK out of the open.
The Chicago plan backfired when JFK cancelled his plans to attend the Army-Navy game at Soldiers Field in early November.
The group set up two assassination teams for Dallas. One was in Dealey Plaza; the second was near the International Trade Mart where JFK's luncheon speech was to be delivered.

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LOL...oh why did I bring up Mexico?

**Derek** · 09-26-2008, 01:49 AM

Re: Bush Postpones 2008 Election By Stephen Gillers

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In a speech during a surprise visit to Baghdad, where he <span style="font-weight: bold">celebrated the summer solstice</span> with the troops, </div></div>
Is Bush a:

Druid?
Pagan?
33-degree Freemason?

Since when has Americans celebrated the summer solstice?

**Derek** · 09-26-2008, 01:59 AM

Re: Bush Postpones 2008 Election By Stephen Gillers

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Senator Arlen Specter (R-Pa.), chairman of the Judiciary Committee, </div></div>
He's done well hasn't he?

As a junior lawyer he wrote the widely accepted 'magic bullet theory' to justify how so many wounds to Kennedy and Govenor Connelly could have come from three Oswlad bullets.

<span style="font-style: italic">The second shot went through JFK's neck and came out of the front of his neck; went through Connelly's right armpit, came out; went through his right wrist and came out the other side before embedding itself in Conelly's left thigh.</span>

**Wahalla** · 09-26-2008, 06:52 AM

Re: Watch-the US elections going to be suspended

yes he could... three aimed shots in 7 secs with one in the chamber is possible.. I could do it 20 years ago... The US marine use that as a bench mark...

**Wahalla** · 09-26-2008, 06:55 AM

Re: Bush Postpones 2008 Election By Stephen Gillers

Connoly was sitting in a jump seat not at the same level as JFK... There was no great deflection...I went to the place where oswald stood. in 1990. I was surptrised how close the distance was....I stood in the adjest window and what he was not relatively simple...

**Derek** · 09-26-2008, 07:25 AM

Re: Watch-the US elections going to be suspended

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wahalla</div><div class="ubbcode-body">yes he could... three aimed shots in 7 secs with one in the chamber is possible.. I could do it 20 years ago... The US marine use that as a bench mark... </div></div>

But could you do it with a manual, Mannlicher-Carcano World War Two mail order rifle, with a misaligned scope?

And it wasn't just aiming three shots: he was supposed to have hit a moving target 150 yards away - and a tree would have obscured the first two shots.

**Derek** · 09-26-2008, 07:27 AM

Re: Bush Postpones 2008 Election By Stephen Gillers

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wahalla</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Connoly was sitting in a jump seat not at the same level as JFK... There was no great deflection...I went to the place where oswald stood. in 1990. I was surptrised how close the distance was....I stood in the adjest window and what he was not relatively simple... </div></div>

Connelly was in the front pasenger seat; JFK behind him. <span style="font-weight: bold">DO you honestly believe one bullet caused seven wounds?</span>

**Derek** · 09-26-2008, 07:31 AM

Re: Bush Postpones 2008 Election By Stephen Gillers

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wahalla</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I went to the place where oswald stood.</div></div>

Oswald was in the second floor lunch room drinking Coke when the shots were fired - as spotted by many witnesess.

And JFK was NOT shot from the 6th floor of the school book depository building. He was hit from the ROOF by an expert marksman using a Mauser rifle.

**Hugo** · 09-26-2008, 10:52 AM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: H_O</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i posted this and not one response from morning

Under Directive 51

The National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive (National Security Presidential Directive NSPD-51/Homeland Security Presidential Directive HSPD-20, sometimes called simply "Executive Directive 51" for short), signed by United States President George W. Bush on May 4, 2007, is a Presidential Directive which specifies the procedures for continuity of the federal government in the event of a "catastrophic emergency". Such an emergency is construed as "any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, <span style="color: #FF6666">economy </span> , or government functions." [1]

The unclassified portion of the directive was posted on the White House website on May 9, 2007, without any further announcement or press briefings,[2] although Special Assistant to George W. Bush Gordon Johndroe answered several questions on the matter when asked about it by members of the press in early June 2007.[3]

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we all knew you are a sick man, why prove it further?

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