ar mzungu jamaicans racist?

[Tropicana]

Re: ar mzungu jamaicans racist?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Diabolical_Tanya</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Eventually, things did open up in the civil service and banking sector. However as late as the 1990s, I was SHOCKED to hear some older BLACK Jamaicans say that when they go into a bank in Jamaica and see all of the Black faces, they're <span style="font-weight: bold">frightened</span>. The people I heard say this were in their 90s at the time and it wasn't one or two, trust me. </div></div> what did they mean by that? did they think their fellow black people were a threat? </div></div>

I think the term frightened was taken out of context, I know we (where I grew up) use &quot;frighten fi si&quot; to mean surprised not scared or afraid.

as in &quot;lawd Miss Masie mi frighten fi si di one Tropicana tannup inna church inna trowsis&quot;

Tropicana fi a scandal di ole people soh...but mi positive yu going to stick to your interpretation </div></div>

The quotes were ...
<span style="font-weight: bold">
&quot;When mi go a bank and see all de black people a wuk deh mi frighten&quot;.</span>

Are you saying that I misunderstood what the elderly people were saying?

[CeaBee]

Re: ar mzungu jamaicans racist?

yes

[Blackstar*]

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Tanya is right about the meaning of &quot;frighten&quot;.

[diabolical_Tanya]

Re: ar mzungu jamaicans racist?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Diabolical_Tanya</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Eventually, things did open up in the civil service and banking sector. However as late as the 1990s, I was SHOCKED to hear some older BLACK Jamaicans say that when they go into a bank in Jamaica and see all of the Black faces, they're <span style="font-weight: bold">frightened</span>. The people I heard say this were in their 90s at the time and it wasn't one or two, trust me. </div></div> what did they mean by that? did they think their fellow black people were a threat? </div></div>

I think the term frightened was taken out of context, I know we (where I grew up) use &quot;frighten fi si&quot; to mean surprised not scared or afraid.

as in &quot;lawd Miss Masie mi frighten fi si di one Tropicana tannup inna church inna trowsis&quot;

Tropicana fi a scandal di ole people soh...but mi positive yu going to stick to your interpretation </div></div>

The quotes were ...
<span style="font-weight: bold">
&quot;When mi go a bank and see all de black people a wuk deh mi frighten&quot;.</span>

Are you saying that I misunderstood what the elderly people were saying?

Yes ma'am dat is what I am saying dem frighten (surprised/amazed) fi si black people working in the bank same way dem prolly frighten fi si a black man as President of the USA

[diabolical_Tanya]

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and as I said in the SB I will accept your apology on behalf of di ole people (of St Ann) smaddy else can do the other parish dem

[Tropicana]

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Well then I misunderstood. Not surprising. Sometimes I miss some of the nuances of patois. I thought they were saying that when they went into the bank and saw all of the Black people working there they were <span style="font-weight: bold"> frightened</span> (in a bad way) not shocked or amazed in a good way. Dem all dead and gone now so mi will have fi tek onoo word fi it. Learn someting new everyday.

[Tropicana]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Diabolical_Tanya</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> and as I said in the SB I will accept your apology on behalf of di ole people (of St Ann) smaddy else can do the other parish dem </div></div>

Well clearly I misunderstood what the ole people dem was saying.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Diabolical_Tanya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I think the term frightened was taken out of context, I know we (where I grew up) use &quot;frighten fi si&quot; to mean surprised not scared or afraid.

as in &quot;lawd Miss Masie mi frighten fi si di one Tropicana tannup inna church inna trowsis&quot;

Tropicana fi a scandal di ole people soh...but mi positive yu going to stick to your interpretation </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The quotes were ...
<span style="font-weight: bold">
&quot;When mi go a bank and see all de black people a wuk deh mi frighten&quot;.</span>

Are you saying that I misunderstood what the elderly people were saying? </div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Diabolical_Tanya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Yes ma'am dat is what I am saying dem frighten (surprised/amazed) fi si black people working in the bank same way dem prolly frighten fi si a black man as President of the USA </div></div>

Understood and I stand corrected. Next time I will get clarification on the spot or walk with my dictionary of Jamaican English.

Reminds me of when I would wear a scarf and the older people would keep asking &quot;You ave headache?&quot; Fi de longest time mi di and mi nevah did understand WAH gwan or wha mek dem ax de question.

[Blackstar*]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Diabolical_Tanya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes ma'am dat is what I am saying dem frighten (surprised/amazed) fi si black people working in the bank same way dem prolly frighten fi si a black man as President of the USA </div></div>
But it does support Tropi's stance that it had been unusual to see medium to dark black people working in banks.

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">but in 1968 he




was able to get a job in the bank .... </div></div>

...and the incident which they keep talking about with regard to bank was in the 40=50s...the man did eventually get a job. I think it was Nethersole....wasn't Chairman of the BOJ eventually?

[RichD]

Re: ar mzungu jamaicans racist?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlackStar</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Diabolical_Tanya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes ma'am dat is what I am saying dem frighten (surprised/amazed) fi si black people working in the bank same way dem prolly frighten fi si a black man as President of the USA </div></div>
But it does support Tropi's stance that it had been unusual to see medium to dark black people working in banks. </div></div>

wonder if anybody still in the workforce in jamaica can speak first had of those times

[RichD]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
...and the incident which they keep talking about with regard to bank was in the 40=50s...the man did eventually get a job. I think it was Nethersole....wasn't Chairman of the BOJ eventually? </div></div>

wonder if it was him

[diabolical_Tanya]

Re: ar mzungu jamaicans racist?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlackStar</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Diabolical_Tanya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes ma'am dat is what I am saying dem frighten (surprised/amazed) fi si black people working in the bank same way dem prolly frighten fi si a black man as President of the USA </div></div>
But it does support Tropi's stance that it had been unusual to see medium to dark black people working in banks. </div></div>Yes but does not suppport her stance that the ole people were self hating black people

[Tuff Gong]

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Speaking of banking jobs, (even though a teller position is just a overrated cashier), let’s say teller, who would go to get a bank then?
The average girl from the ghetto out of high school or the girl who would have trained for a secretarial position and so had moved up in class by then?

[Gen]

Re: ar mzungu jamaicans racist?

unnnu nuh hear mi seh unnu fi wait till mi come back fi crack the joke dem


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ceabee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">yes </div></div>

[Tropicana]

Re: ar mzungu jamaicans racist?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlackStar</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Diabolical_Tanya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes ma'am dat is what I am saying dem frighten (surprised/amazed) fi si black people working in the bank same way dem prolly frighten fi si a black man as President of the USA </div></div>
But it does support Tropi's stance that it had been unusual to see medium to dark black people working in banks. </div></div>

wonder if anybody still in the workforce in jamaica can speak first had of those times </div></div>

Yes, I know people who are still alive who remember when there were hardly any Black people allowed to work in the banks.