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Anti-Illegal Immigrant Graffiti is hate crime?!?!
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Originally posted by Tuff Gong View PostKeep holding the line my brother. Keep sticking your finger in the Dyke. Maybe you might be able to hold the surge of the eleven million.
You do the math...that's a lot fingers. lol... I think those that think like I do, got it covered. lol
Tuff, you do realize that this situation just polarizes your situation. This attention can't do your cause any good in the long run.
Most Voters Want to Send Latest Illegal Immigrants Home ASAP
Thursday, July 17, 2014
Most voters don’t want any of the young illegal immigrants who’ve recently arrived here housed in their state and say any legislation passed by Congress to deal with the problem should focus on sending them home as soon as possible.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 59% of Likely U.S. Voters believe the primary focus of any new immigration legislation passed by Congress should be to send the young illegal immigrants back home as quickly as possible. Just 27% say it should focus instead on making it easier for these illegal immigrants to remain in the United States. Fourteen percent (14%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
Advocates for the illegal immigrants argue that they are flooding into the country to escape violent situations in their home countries, but just 31% of U.S. voters think they are coming here now for their own safety. Most voters (52%) believe they are coming here for economic reasons. Seventeen percent (17%) are not sure.
Maryland Governor Martin O’Malley, who last week criticized efforts to deport these illegal immigrants, is now reportedly the latest governor to tell the White House not to house any of them in his state. Fifty-seven percent (57%) of voters disapprove of housing these illegal immigrants in their state. Only half as many (29%) approve, while 14% are undecided.
Voters are more uncertain, however, when it comes to the $3.7 billion in new spending that President Obama has asked for from Congress to deal with these new illegal immigrants. Twenty-six percent (26%) think Congress should approve the president’s request even if it does not provide for quicker deportation of these illegals, but 40% oppose approval if money for sped-up deportation is not included. One-in-three voters (34%) are not sure.
Earlier this month, a plurality (46%) of voters said the Obama administration, through its statements and policies, has encouraged this latest wave of illegal immigration.
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The survey of 1,000 Likely Voters was conducted on July 15-16, 2014 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.
Americans still overwhelmingly believe in the importance of closing the border to future illegal immigration despite the federal government’s failure to do so. They have suggestions, too, about the best way to stem the tide of illegal immigration.
Eighty-three percent (83%) of voters say they have been following recent news reports about the situation at the U.S.-Mexico border, with 51% who have been following Very Closely.
Eighty-five percent (85%) of Republicans and 61% of voters not affiliated with either major party believe the primary focus of any new immigration legislation should be sending these latest illegal immigrants back home as quickly as possible. Democrats by a 46% to 36% margin disagree and say new legislation should primarily deal with making it easier for them to stay here.
But then a plurality (48%) of Democrats believes the illegal immigrants are coming here for safety reasons, while 75% of GOP voters and 54% of unaffiliateds think they are coming for economic reasons instead.
Fifty-two percent (52%) of Democrats approve of housing these illegal immigrants in their state. Republicans (83%) and unaffiliated voters (62%) are strongly opposed to housing them in the states where they live.
Black voters are more sympathetic to the illegal immigrants than whites and other minority voters are.
Those 40 and over feel much more strongly than younger voters that the chief aim of any new legislation should be to send the illegal newcomers home as quickly as possible.
Most voters have said in surveys for years that the policies and practices of the federal government encourage rather than discourage illegal immigration.
Fifty-two percent (52%) believe the government is not aggressive enough in deporting illegal immigrants. Just 14% think the government is too aggressive in this area.
Also consistent with surveying for years, 58% of voters believe gaining control of the border is more important than legalizing the status of undocumented workers already living in this country. But if Congress passes a comprehensive immigration reform plan like the one endorsed by the president, only 33% think it’s even somewhat likely that the federal government will actually secure the border, with seven percent (7%) who say it’s Very Likely.
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http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...ants_home_asapLast edited by lonewolf; 07-20-2014, 07:19 AM.
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Originally posted by lonewolf View PostTuff, you do realize that this situation just polarizes your situation. This attention can't do your cause any good in the long run.
One thing I am sure of, many folks railing against illegals are hypocrites. It is merely a route to some other things they would like or not like to happen. It's all about crying wolf, while having, your personal wet-back, cut your lawn, wipe you baby's nose, shine your shoes, all at one time, at the same low rate.
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One thing I am sure of, many folks railing against illegals are hypocrites. It is merely a route to some other things they would like or not like to happen. It's all about crying wolf, while having, your personal wet-back, cut your lawn, wipe you baby's nose, shine your shoes, all at one time, at the same low rate.
We both know that the illegal surge is to provide cheap labor for the rich.
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Originally posted by lonewolf View PostThe eastern shore, another conservative stronghold of Md. There aren't many of us.
Thanks Peasie, that's hilarious. dwl
Maryland's Eastern Shore was known for its particularly harsh treatment of black immigrants or "slaves" on its tobacco plantations. Nevertheless this area of our state produced two amazing thinkers that revolutionized the ill-treatment of human beings: Frederick Douglas and Harriet Tubman.Last edited by Peasie; 07-23-2014, 10:13 AM.
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Originally posted by lonewolf View PostWe both know that the illegal surge is to provide cheap labor for the rich.
There was an investigative news report, focused on this so-called surge that the Tea-Baggers dreamed up. They followed the Border Patrol Agents, picking up Wet-Backs. At the end of the report, the news reporter admitted that the Agents could not determine if there was any increase in persons trying to cross the into the USA or if the increase in interceptions was due to more resources at the crossings.
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Originally posted by Peasie View PostThe sign was hilarious though I don't agree with its sentiments.
Maryland's Eastern Shore was known for its particularly harsh treatment of black immigrants or "slaves" on its tobacco plantations. Nevertheless this area of our state produced two amazing thinkers that revolutionized the ill-treatment of human beings: Frederick Douglas and Harriet Tubman.
Peasie, did you know about this guy? (Robert Pearle) And, also John Hanson was a freed slave from Md that helped establish a colony in Liberia? That's my understanding...some mix him up with the white John Hanson whom was un-officially the first president of the US under the Articles of Confederation before the Constitution.
From Slave to Slave Owner: The Life of Robert Pearle of Maryland
By Mary Clement Jeske, PhD.
Published in Maryland Historical Magazine, Spring 2008.
During his unusually long life, Robert Pearle (c. 1685-1765), a free mulatto who had been "born of a negroe Slave" in Calvert County, Maryland, achieved a level of success truly remarkable for the time and place in which he lived. "Manumitted by his late master's Will" with his wife and eldest son in 1720, Pearle established himself as a carpenter and began a rise to prosperity that would eclipse that of most men in the eighteenth-century Chesapeake, black or white. Pearle probably never lost his identity as a former slave and even though not free until age thirty-five, he nevertheless attained a level of economic success that placed him among the ranks of the wealthiest white planters in Maryland during the colonial era. The evidence and measure of that achievement - the fourteen slaves enumerated in Pearle's will - testify to just how far he had traveled - from slave to slave owner - during his life.1
No probate inventory survives to provide a detailed analysis of Pearle's personal property, but his fourteen chattels were perhaps worth as much as £700, the value of which - exclusive of his other property - would have placed Pearle among the top 5 to 10 percent of all inventoried Chesapeake decedents during the colonial era.2 Pearle did not own any land when he died, choosing instead to live on the 200-acre tract on Carrollton Manor in Frederick County that he had rented from the Carroll family for more than two decades. Nevertheless, Pearle had acquired a level of wealth that placed him among the top ranks - though not at the very pinnacle - of Chesapeake wealth holders.
Several factors seem to have contributed to Robert Pearle's success. First, while enslaved, Pearle had acquired a valuable skill - carpentry - that allowed him to find employment as a free man and probably provided the foundation for his eventual prosperity.3 In addition, he lived an extraordinarily long life by eighteenth century standards, dying at age eighty, years that allowed him time to accumulate property despite his long period of bondage. Most importantly, Pearle enjoyed the support of some members of the white ruling elite, beginning with his master, Richard Marsham (by c. 1640-1713), the wealthy Prince George's County land and slave holder who gave Pearle his freedom.4 After Marsham's death Pearle continued to enjoy the patronage of some powerful whites, which proved critical to maintaining his rights and to his eventual success in a world where whites controlled all access to power and most blacks were slaves. Pearle was able to convert his unique advantages into economic success, which, once attained, perhaps exerted an equal or even greater influence than his race.
Robert Pearle was born about 1685 and grew to maturity in the early eighteenth-century Chesapeake, simultaneously with the emergence of a slave-based plantation economy that would shape and define his world. His was a very different world from the Chesapeake of the previous century, when white indentured servants outnumbered slaves by as many as five to one and blacks, both slave and free, comprised only a tiny part of the population - about 6 percent of the total in 1670. White servants and black slaves worked together in the same fields, usually alongside their masters, on small agricultural units, lived under the same roof with their owners, played together, ran away together, sometimes enjoyed intimate sexual relationships, and occasionally married. Though most blacks were slaves, slavery was not yet legally codified, race and slavery were not synonymous and race relations more fluid. Before the 1680s the majority of slaves in the Chesapeake came not directly from Africa, but had spent time in the Caribbean or other parts of the New World or along the Atlantic coast. Because this "charter generation" of slaves had acquired an understanding of European languages and cultures, they quickly adapted to life in the Chesapeake. They either spoke or soon learned English, became Christians, and used the legal system to their advantage. Often granted the opportunity to work independently, they developed their own economy, allowing some to accumulate the resources to purchase their freedom. Though difficult, it was possible for some blacks to work their way out of slavery. Very few became wealthy or acquired land, but nevertheless generally enjoyed a modest level of prosperity.5
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