Race Hate: How Many Incidents Equal a Trend?

[Gen]

Re: Race Hate: How Many Incidents Equal a Trend?

which people dat

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">you mean obama's election didn't cure racism?
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now why would you say something like that.
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but is it 'me' or did many people not imply that we are now in a 'post-racial' america after the momentous election </div></div>

[evanovitch]

Re: Race Hate: How Many Incidents Equal a Trend?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

you mean obama's election didn't cure racism?
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now why would you say something like that.
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because u have some down here who seh dat blacks can no longer claim racism given his election </div></div>

saying someone cannot claim racism is not the same as saying racism is cured.

equating that to &quot;loving Jcans dont mean u love black people on a whole&quot;...is it like dat u mean ?

[Gen]

Re: Race Hate: How Many Incidents Equal a Trend?

what a ting eeh.. dat smaddy can love jamaicans but nuh love black people

[jah_yout]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">what a ting eeh.. dat smaddy can love jamaicans but nuh love black people </div></div>

some people think the term 'black people' only applies to black americans

[mountaingal]

Re: Race Hate: How Many Incidents Equal a Trend?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

you mean obama's election didn't cure racism?
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now why would you say something like that.
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but <span style="font-weight: bold">is it 'me'</span> or did many people not imply that we are now in a 'post-racial' america after the momentous election </div></div>

it's you. don't recall that even folks talking about a post-racial america ever saying that racism was cured.

the term 'cure' was sarcastic as we all know there is no such thing as a racism 'cure';
but the term <span style="font-weight: bold">'post-racial' seems to me to suggest a new reality without racialism </span>being a big issue;
at least that's what i get from it

to me, post-racial means a new discourse on racism. doesn't mean the end of discourse or of racism.

[mountaingal]

Re: Race Hate: How Many Incidents Equal a Trend?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

you mean obama's election didn't cure racism?
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now why would you say something like that.
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because u have some down here who seh dat blacks can no longer claim racism given his election </div></div>

saying someone cannot claim racism is not the same as saying racism is cured.

equating that to &quot;loving Jcans dont mean u love black people on a whole&quot;...is it like dat u mean ?

i'm equating it to &quot;post-modern&quot; in art, signifying that critical developments have happened which give new meaning to what was previously considered modern.

my interpretation of post-racial in this context means that the traditional motifs used by folks in a discussion of race have changed due to the election of Barack Obama - the limits once set on black people's achievements in the US and the discussions about those limits - now have to be adjusted. it doesn't mean that there is clear sailing to the presidency by any black person now, without racism. with the constant reminders of racism before, during and after the election, i cannot see where anyone would reasonably interpret the Obama developments as some sort of cure or end of racism and i haven't actually heard or read anything to that effect.

[mountaingal]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

you mean obama's election didn't cure racism?
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now why would you say something like that.
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because u have some down here who seh dat blacks can no longer claim racism given his election </div></div>

saying someone cannot claim racism is not the same as saying racism is cured.

equating that to &quot;loving Jcans dont mean u love black people on a whole&quot;...is it like dat u mean ?

just realized that mi never really answer you question. saying someone cannot claim racism is in itself a racist statement, in my opinion, so cancels out the argument that racism is cured. and even if you are &quot;well-intentioned&quot;, i would have to ask how the achievement of a presidency with the full coterie of racist threats and disallowances (faced by Obama every step of the way), proves that racism is at an end. one can be elected president despite racism, not in its absence.

i'm not sure it's quite analogous to the Jamaican thing.

[Tuff Gong]

Re: Race Hate: How Many Incidents Equal a Trend?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">you mean obama's election didn't cure racism?
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now why would you say something like that.
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but is it 'me' or did many people not imply that we are now in a 'post-racial' america after the momentous election </div></div>How many?

[BND1999]

Re: Race Hate: How Many Incidents Equal a Trend?

((good morning))

Obama winning the election only shows that some people are more tolerant than given credit for... are not bound by color... as it wasnt the black vote that solely made it possible for Obama to win.... but a huge white, educated populace as well.

A cure to racism.. NO... maybe a baby step in the right direction.... racism is learned.... so it then gives reason that rascism needs to be unlearned... for everyone.. especially children that were socialised with that sentiment... both ways mind you..

two days after obama won the election.. i was working with a photographer in harlem... in her studio... when i was done for the day i came out to walk to my car... (no camera. so dont go there).

there were tons of people outside.. hanging out.. chatting.. movement everywhere..

i tripped and fell hard in the street.. my bags flew out of my hand.. i could feel my skin burning through my pants...... i was so out of sorts.. as i lay looking at the street from the ground.. knowing i need to get up fast before cars come... mind you ive been recovering from back surgery and an injured foot and felt definitely slowed down...

for sure i thought a hand would help me.. but not a one. people just looking at me.. watching me.. in fact one man looked down into my eyes... as if to say get up

i managed to get myself up.. in total amazement at the lack of humanity.. and limped to my car.. when i got inside.. i cried and cried... sure i was bleeding at the knee and my elbow mashed.. but i cried for the lact of humanity.... and at that moment the obama thing ran through my head... on the heels of such a victory.. no things do not change.... Not so fast.....

takes time.. education.. healing

[rufian]

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sounds awfull the way you put it.
who knows, touch you and smaddi get life in prison \ö/

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Good Morning

[BND1999]

Re: Race Hate: How Many Incidents Equal a Trend?

(good morning sukuna))

laugh and cry at the same time with that point... but no joke.... i can undestand that line of thinking.... you help.. and then someone thinks you were involved in wrong doing......

sad state of affairs ... to help means you are suspect..

[seldom]

Re: Race Hate: How Many Incidents Equal a Trend?

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[Tuff Gong]

Re: Race Hate: How Many Incidents Equal a Trend?

I think some folks are more interested to sow strife and division on this Bulleting Board. They throw out these broad references and when asked to back them up to go to victimhood-mode.

This is not the first post to show a trend in incidents of hate, this is not the first post to predict such incidents.
If fifty Black Presidents win there will still be racists and bigots on both sides.

To say that a Black Man had no more excuses to try and to succeed because there is the evidence that a Black Man with the available tools can become President of the USA is not mutually exclusive from saying there are still racists out there and that a Black President will be one of the greatest recruitment tools for racist and bigots on both sides.

I guess someone of us cannot say that but others can make bold statements that Barack is not Black and that he has used his whiteness to win over white folks.

The Man said he was running as a Post-Racial Candidate, he did not say there is Racism no more in the USA. His Campaign said they had zero discussions on Race and it was only when the Press asked about it that they had to answer any questions about it. That does not mean that they are blind to racists’ threats and acts, which has never ceased since the Campaign started.

I cannot point to <span style="font-weight: bold">one single post</span> on this board that claimed that racism is eliminated because Barack has won the Presidency.

[evanovitch]

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well now, wen it come to sowing strife an di odda ting u imply, we haffi bow to u...an if none neva intend, welll u see how u expertise still came in use

[Tuff Gong]

Re: Race Hate: How Many Incidents Equal a Trend?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">well now, wen it come to sowing strife an di odda ting u imply, we haffi bow to u...an if none neva intend, welll u see how u expertise still came in use </div></div>I can I never have sown any strife on this Board. I simply asked questions relevant to post. To say that many have and cannot name one of the many is intended just so to do sow strife.
You know I have been on the Board a very long time and there are at least three (3) members when they first come to the Board their first posts were not replied to and they kept up a huge song and dance about it.... those three members that I know of continue in the same vein.

Let’s turn the thread into an argument about sowing strife I have the ammunition!