Candidate 5 is Jesse Jackson Jr.

[miaman]

Re: Candidate 5 is Jesse Jackson Jr.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BossOomanSkelly</div><div class="ubbcode-body">weh him get 1/2 a mil from? </div></div>
Fram im daddy shakin dung all the corps dem

[miaman]

Re: Candidate 5 is Jesse Jackson Jr.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BossOomanSkelly</div><div class="ubbcode-body">oh boy that took me 3 minutes and 12 times to read over </div></div>

mi glad yuh astute. tink seh guvmint inna di sunshine be a ting of di past

[Sinco01]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">dem push wid <span style="font-weight: bold">China is a high factor in our ills</span>....not to mention the other Americans who , fi selfish reasons, put fellow Americans out of work</div></div>


thanks for pointing that out ..
cheap labour ..

then who is gonna buy your products ..
if work force is not there ..

what then ..
people are not working ..
jobs get out sourced ..
then what ..

then what ..
if your work force cannot afford your products ..
where you gonna sell ..

[Sinco01]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: miaman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Board memmer 2 tell akompliss 3 dat senator 9 be bangy dangy wid ooman 6 hat kammishinah 8 house pon withrow road hat noon pon 12-6 han di washa ooman 1 seh mi knoa nuttin bout nuttin cawz mi tell soh by ram e 1 </div></div>


that is politricks ...

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Candidate 5 is Jesse Jackson Jr.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sinco01</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">dem push wid <span style="font-weight: bold">China is a high factor in our ills</span>....not to mention the other Americans who , fi selfish reasons, put fellow Americans out of work</div></div>


thanks for pointing that out ..
cheap labour ..

then who is gonna buy your products ..
if work force is not there ..

what then ..
people are not working ..
jobs get out sourced ..
then what ..

then what ..
if your work force cannot afford your products ..
where you gonna sell ..
</div></div> I have been asking these same questions ever since Ronald Reagan introduced his Reaganomics policy. It seem like the only answer is in experiencing the greatest depression.

[Sinco01]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have been asking these same questions ever since Ronald Reagan introduced his <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Reaganomics policy</div></div>. It seem like the only answer is in experiencing the greatest depression.
</div></div>


&quot;Trickle down economics&quot; ..
and they still want to do the same today ..
some people never learn ..

[foolya]

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So how the hell they got all the way to Candidate 5.
where is 1 thu 4, they're whites so need not be publicze.

[Dyoll_73]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: foolya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So how the hell they got all the way to Candidate 5.
where is 1 thu 4, they're whites so need not be publicze. </div></div>

Well we know that Candidate #1 is identified as Obama's close friend and confidant from Chicago, Valerie Jarret, but she was taken out of consideration for the seat after Obama named her as a Senior Advisor in the White House.

I'm not sure who the others are.

Funny enough, the case against Blago is not iron-clad; in fact, it is not very strong. No doubt there are unethical behaviors here caught on tape, but do you realize that he has not been charged with getting or seeking favors for a political appointment? Here, the difference between Blago and many other politicians is that he got caught.

So what was he charged with? Some quid pro quo involving financial assistance to the Chicago Tribune newspaper in exchange for favorable editorials from that paper as well as the firing of the editorial staff. That's all. And of course, you have to ask the governor: is that all you wanted in exchange for hundreds of millions of dollars? Sure, it involves the public's money and that's how it becomes criminal, but in the wider scheme of things, it's relatively minor. I can think of any number of more important crimes with which a lot of public officials could be charged.

What Blago will most certainly face is impeachment and removal from office. And here, politics takes precedence over legality. All it takes is votes.

In all of this, Jesse Jackson,Jr seems likely to be innocent in this process, and it seems his only crime is his highly publicized desire for the seat.

[Sinco01]

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Blago needed mony ..
he was in debt yp to about $2M to the law firm that used to represent him ..

The impeachment process should start on Monday ..

[Sinco01]

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Was the emissary Jessie Sr. or a brother of Jessie Jr.

Questions the FEDs are looking into ..

Jessie Sr denies any involvement .
The brother of Jr is being interviewed by the Feds..

[jah_yout]

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[Sinco01]

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link ..


<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 17pt"><span style="color: #CC0000">Report: Jackson backers sought cash for governor</span></span></span>
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December 12, 2008

FROM THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Businessmen with ties to both Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich and U.S. Rep. Jesse Jackson <span style="font-weight: bold">discussed raising $1 million for Blagojevich to help persuade him to appoint Jackson</span> to President-elect Barack Obama's vacant Senate seat, according to a published report.

Citing unnamed sources, the Chicago Tribune reports in a story for Friday's editions that businessman Raghuveer Nayak and Blagojevich aide Rajinder Bedi told attendees at an Oct. 31 meeting that they needed to raise the money for the governor to ensure Jackson's appointment.
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Raghuveer Nayak
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&quot;Raghu said he needed to raise a million for Rod to make sure Jesse got the seat,&quot; an unidentified source who attended the meeting told the Tribune. Blagojevich also attended the meeting, which was sponsored by Nayak, an Oak Brook businessman.

A message left at a listing for Raghuveer Nayak in Oak Brook was not immediately returned early Friday. No published listing for Bedi could be found.

Blagojevich was arrested Tuesday on federal corruption charges that allege, among other things, a brazen scheme to put Obama's U.S. Senate seat up for sale.

According to the FBI complaint, the Oct. 31 meeting took place the same day federal prosecutors intercepted a conversation in which Blagojevich claims he'd been <span style="font-weight: bold">approached by a representative for an unnamed &quot;Senate Candidate 5&quot; who offered cash in exchange for the Senate seat.

On Wednesday, it was revealed that Jackson was the candidate</span>.

&quot;We were approached 'pay to play,&quot;' Blagojevich said in the call. The candidate would raise $500,000 for Blagojevich, and an emissary would raise an additional $1 million, according to the conversation.

Jackson spokesman Rick Bryant told the Tribune that while <span style="font-weight: bold">Jackson discussed the Senate seat with Nayak, he <span style="font-style: italic">never asked him to do anything</span></span>.

<span style="font-weight: bold">Nayak, 54, has raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for Blagojevich and is also close to the Jackson family. Bedi has also been a Blagojevich fundraiser</span>.

The Oct. 31 meeting led to a Blagojevich fundraiser held Saturday that was co-sponsored by Nayak. The governor attended, as did Jackson's brother Jonathan, who went into business with Nayak several years ago, according to the newspaper report.

Two days later, Jackson met with Blagojevich to discuss the Senate seat.

Complete Blagojevich pay-to-play coverage

[evanovitch]

Fundraiser emerges as key event in Illinois probe

Fundraiser emerges as key event in Illinois probe
By ADAM GOLDMAN and RICHARD T. PIENCIAK –

CHICAGO (AP) — A fundraiser held by Indian-American businessmen three days before Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich was arrested on corruption charges emerged Friday as a potentially key event in the federal investigation into whether he tried to sell President-elect Barack Obama's vacant Senate seat.

Questions are being raised about last Saturday's event for Blagojevich <span style="font-weight: bold">because Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr.'s brother, Jonathan, was among those attending</span>. <span style="font-weight: bold">The Indian community has a long history of supporting the Jackson family's political aspirations,</span> and the congressman has been clear about his interest in succeeding Obama.

Rep. Jackson, however, flatly denied that he or his brother were involved in a scheme for Blagojevich to peddle the Senate seat in return for up to $1.5 million in political contributions.

The congressman also said neither his brother nor his father, the Rev. Jesse Jackson, served as any kind of emissary for discussions with the governor.

&quot;Clearly, a scheme had been hatched in the mind of the governor,&quot; Jackson said.

The Chicago Tribune reported Friday that some of the businessmen who gathered at the Dec. 6 fundraiser discussed the prospect of raising at least $1 million for the governor in return for Jackson getting the Senate seat.

Iftekhar Shareef, former president of the Federation of Indian Associations and a prominent businessman, said he attended the fundraiser and sat at the same table as the governor, Jonathan Jackson and at least two prominent Indian businessmen.

Nobody discussed the Senate seat at the table, Shareef said.

&quot;Honestly, I never saw if there was any talk about Jesse Jr.'s Senate seat or anything,&quot; Shareef said. &quot;Who knows? It might be among themselves.&quot;

Blagojevich was arrested at his home Tuesday, one day after he met with Jackson for 90 minutes to discuss Jackson's interest in the seat. The congressman has been identified as &quot;Senate Candidate 5&quot; in the federal complaint against Blagojevich.

Jackson said Blagojevich never promised him the Senate seat. &quot;Far from it,&quot; he told The Associated Press. &quot;It was clear from the reading of the complaint, my candidacy never had a chance under his process.&quot;

Any scheme to win Jackson the appointment may have been hatched shortly before Oct. 31, according to the complaint.

During a recorded conversation that day, the governor recalled &quot;an earlier approach&quot; by an associate of Senate Candidate 5: &quot;We were approached 'pay to play.' That, you know, he'd raise me 500 grand. An emissary came. Then the other guy would raise a million, if I made him a senator.&quot;

The Tribune reported that Blagojevich made an appearance at an Oct. 31 luncheon at the India House restaurant in suburban Schaumburg, an event sponsored by businessman Raghuveer Nayak.

Ravi Rawat, manager of the India House restaurant, said there were 35 participants at the luncheon and that Nayak paid the bill. He said he was unaware of what was discussed at the closed-door session, though Shareef said it was held to plan last week's Blagojevich fundraiser.

According to state campaign finance reports, Nayak and his company, Rogers Park One Day Surgi-Center, gave $117,000 to Blagojevich's campaign fund from 2001 through November 2006.

Raghuveer and Anita Nayak also contributed $20,300 to Jackson's campaigns from 2000 to 2008, Federal Election Commission documents indicate.

At least two other businessmen and a Blagojevich aide identified as being part of Saturday's fundraiser have donated to Blagojevich and Jackson, sometimes with their wives.

Harish and Renuka Bhatt have given $86,000 to Blagojevich, including $4,000 from the Association of Indian Pharmacists, which lists the same address as Bhatt.

Blagojevich has also received $18,500 from Babu Patel or his firm, Patel Realty, from 2000 through June. Patel gave $1,000 to Jackson in 2007. Blagojevich aide Rajinder Bedi gave Jackson $500 between 2005 and 2008.

According to Shareef, both Nayak and Bedi sat with the governor and Jonathan Jackson during the fundraiser.

Messages left with Nayak, the Bhatts, Patel and Bedi were not returned Friday.

On Dec. 4, two days before the fundraiser, prosecutors say Blagojevich told someone identified only as &quot;Adviser B&quot; that he was giving Jackson greater consideration for the seat because, &quot;among other reasons,&quot; he would raise money for a Blagojevich re-election run and might even provide some cash upfront.

In another taped call, Blagojevich said he was elevating Jackson on his list of candidates because he &quot;might be able to cut a deal&quot; that could give the governor &quot;something tangible up front.&quot;

&quot;Blagojevich noted he was going to meet with 'Senate Candidate 5' in the next few days,&quot; the complaint says.

In fact, the governor and Jackson met to discuss the Senate seat four days later, on Monday. Blagojevich was arrested at his home the next morning.

[Sinco01]

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Does not look good for Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">some of the businessmen who gathered at the Dec. 6 fundraiser discussed the prospect of raising at least<span style="font-weight: bold"> $1 million for the governor in return for Jackson getting the Senate seat</span>.</div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Blagojevich told someone identified only as &quot;Adviser B&quot; that he was giving Jackson greater consideration for the seat because, &quot;among other reasons,&quot; he would raise money for a Blagojevich re-election run and might even <span style="font-weight: bold">provide some cash upfront</span>.</div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold">Blagojevich said he was elevating Jackson on his list of candidates because he &quot;might be able to cut a deal&quot; that could give the governor &quot;something tangible up front.</span>&quot;</div></div>

[X]

Re: Fundraiser emerges as key event in Illinois probe

watched him..JJJR that is.
dunno but something about him.. Cant articulate it. Anyone else notice it?