back to africa

[rufian]

Re: back to africa

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TrongFooTdahJah</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mrs_Ahmidis</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">suh who would like to go &quot;back to africa&quot; ?

I sometimes hear AA talking bout moving back to africa </div></div>


If you haven't yet, please read this for an interesting opinion. It certainly paralleled mine.


Back to where...? they don't want us over there,...
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Of course dem nuh want wi ova deh wid wi long hann dem.
Dem need ppl who can come ova deh an get tings started and get tings done, Not guh ova deh an jine dem line. </div></div>

get things done? an wa mek dem kyaan do things demself?
is like family await wid open hands - nuff beggars

[Magician]

Re: back to africa

True dem ting deh end up inna di gutta more time.
But that's due to ignorance. Some ppl a chat bout tings dem nuh know nutting bout and refuse fi listen wid a open mind.

Nobody is an expert on everything so if eveybody a tek is as much as dem gi out then we have a healty reasoning session.

[rufian]

Re: back to africa

likkle more fuel

jahyouth, you see me moniker? what you think about it?

[Yvonne N.]

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The book suggested: All God's Children...by Maya Angelou (1986)

<span style="font-style: italic">It is set in Ghana, beginning in 1968, where Angelou arrives from the States. Almost immediately her 19 year old son Guy is hospitalised after a serious car accident and suddently her life plans are in dissarray.

Angelou had travelled to Africa to search for an alternative to the opression of the US, and to discover her roots. President Kwame Nkrumah was the first leader after Independence, and Malcolm X visited the country after his journey to the hadj in 1962. Angelou has worked as a civil rights activist and recounts some of the conversations and arguments she had at the time, for example contrasting the Black experience in USA v Africa.

She finds employment at the Institute of African Studies in Accra, but finds that <span style="font-weight: bold">she is more American than African,</span> and has some trouble adapting to her new way of life. She often talks of the Diaspora - the experience of moving continents, being displaced into a different culture.</span>

[Gen]

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i dont think she is singling out africans when it comes to inherent human nature BUT the discussion is on africa and so is dem we focus pan



<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Magix_di_PM</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Africa was never a unity and never will be. And so to Blacks outside of Africa as dem come never will be a unity, a dem nature</div></div>

While I agree with you that Africa was never &quot;united&quot; in the past, and never will be in the future, saying that a fi dem nature is not right. It is human nature (an a bad habit at that) and it is prevalent globally. Singling out Africans with it is not right.

Many people around the world with no knowledge use the term &quot;Africa&quot; freely and imply that it is one unit. It's not.

It's a collection of a billion people divided into hundreds of nations, and forced to co-exist in 61 countries with borders that were drawn with total disregard for the nations that inhabit it.

To unite them is not only impossible, but would serve no purpuse whatsoever. </div></div>

[Gen]

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cho man yuh couldan save dis fi page 20 I have never read it but it sounds like the book echoes my sentiments

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mrs_Ahmidis</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">suh who would like to go &quot;back to africa&quot; ?

I sometimes hear AA talking bout moving back to africa </div></div>


If you haven't yet, please read this for an interesting opinion. It certainly paralleled mine.




Back to where...? they don't want us over there,...
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[Gen]

Re: back to africa

tap it

nobody nuh have nothing negative fi seh bout the place. the question is how realistic is it for AA or even the diaspora, to strive to return from whence they were taken (so to speak).

it is a beautiful and complex place is all mi can seh to anybody who aspires to go/return.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TrongFooTdahJah</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TrongFooTdahJah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

To unite them is not only impossible, but would serve no purpuse whatsoever. </div></div>

to have them united (pan dem own) would have the greatest purpose ever on the earth.

Sustaination </div></div>
where would you start? one language? one what? </div></div>

yuh kno mi barely even badda cumeen ya cah mi kno is a waste a fi mi time. PPL roun here don't want to hear anyting good bout Afrika, believe anyting good can come outta Afrika, nor do &quot;we&quot; as Afrikans in the dispora want anything to do with Afrika or be thought of as Afrikans.

So mi wi jus mek unno gwaan play ping-pong wid each odda.
Mi kno who an who mi fi chat tuh bout dem ting ya.

[Gen]

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so what is preventing the various countries from locking dem door and keeping all dem ile, gold and valuable natural resources fi themself ? dont dem is all free thinking sovereign states


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TrongFooTdahJah</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Magix_di_PM</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TrongFooTdahJah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

To unite them is not only impossible, but would serve no purpuse whatsoever. </div></div>

to have them united (pan dem own) would have the greatest purpose ever on the earth.

Sustaination </div></div>

Ok. In that case we might just as well unite the whole world and live happily ever after.

You and I know that this is not going to happen in at least the next 4 millenia.

Nah Afrika should unite demself and forget de ress a de world.
De whole world has been screwin Afrika fi ova 400 years now.
Dem shouldan lock dem door and keep all dem ile, gold, diamonds and all other resources to themself. The can grow enough food, mek enuff steel and do what ever dem waan fi duh.
In the Congo there is one metal that is found no where else on the earth but there. This metal is found in every cell phone. Mi tink dem call it tantanum. If the ress a de world want anyting from dem, mek dem pay a premium.
But eventually as always de european will get bex and come wid dem bombs and guns an biological warfare as usual.

(Aids) is part of their biological warfare weaponry
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[Emperah]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so what is preventing the various countries from locking dem door and keeping all dem ile, gold and valuable natural resources fi themself ? dont dem is all free thinking sovereign states


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No they are all still ruled by the WB, IMF, UK, USA etc.

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">JAMAICA CAN'T STAND WITHOUT A STRONG UNITED AFRICA</div></div>

LOL!

[neutral]

Re: back to africa

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote=Gen]

one time they would have laughed you out of town if you stated the black man's future lies in a strong africa, but dem cyaa laugh again because it is the raw truth...
jamaica or no other predominantly african descended country can survive without a strong africa;

so dem haffi get the ting together </div></div>


My yute,your analysis of the situation is so ludicrous it deserves a laugh...dwl !!!...LOl !!


Just how did you arrive at your assessment that &quot;Jamaica or no other predominantly african country can survive without a strong africa&quot;...?...since when has africa been strong...?
What the bejeesus are you talking about pal.

SO tell me big man,just how strong is africa today,...lets also hear the evidence and the facts why it is the raw truth that jamaica or no african descended country can survive without a strong africa.


You talk about the rasta community in shashemene,..do you really know about their present situation,do you really know if these guys still think it a good idea to have left jamaica for ethopia...?
Do you have any connection or any communication with any of these people to know how they feel about having fled jamaica for what they assumed would be utopia..?

Be careful how you answer because I have direct news from friends in ethiopia.

[Emperah]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Neutral</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...since when has africa been strong...?
What the bejeesus are you talking about pal.</div></div>

if afrika was never strong europeans wouldn't have wanted to go there and plunder the place so much and take everything for themself even to the point of changing the face of the originators of egypt.

And of course we know this was moons and suns ago, but it &quot;was&quot; there.

[diabolical_Tanya]

Re: back to africa

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so what is preventing the various countries from locking dem door and keeping all dem ile, gold and valuable natural resources fi themself ? dont dem is all free thinking sovereign states


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easier said than done.....even Canada a supposed developed nation is unable to utilize her own natural resources to it's full capacity with out assistance/plundering from the UK and the USA.

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: back to africa

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TrongFooTdahJah</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Neutral</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...since when has africa been strong...?
What the bejeesus are you talking about pal.</div></div>

if afrika was never strong europeans wouldn't have wanted to go there and plunder the place so much and take everything for themself even to the point of changing the face of the originators of egypt.

And of course we know this was moons and suns ago, but it &quot;was&quot; there. </div></div> If Africa was really strong in the areas they needed to be, Europe could not have plundered it they awy they did and srill doing under all sort of guizes.
Now Iraq is strong in ways they needed to be be to avoid being colonized.
Africa was not and neither is Jamaica today.
they are bothe colonies,of the develiped cpountries inder guize of being independent.

[neutral]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TrongFooTdahJah</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Neutral</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...since when has africa been strong...?
What the bejeesus are you talking about pal.</div></div>

if afrika was never strong europeans wouldn't have wanted to go there and plunder the place so much and take everything for themself even to the point of changing the face of the originators of egypt.

And of course we know this was moons and suns ago, but it &quot;was&quot; there. </div></div>


I agree with you,...and admittedly it <span style="font-weight: bold"> was</span> strong,...but now its weak.
Most of the african nations survive by constantly handing out begging bowls to developed nations,some of them are too busy comitting genocide on each other to hand out begging bowls,...and the ones that do have the natural resources are too corrupt to help their own people,only a small minority benefit from the spoils,they allow foreigners to come in and take it from them and throw thenm a few crumbs.