back to africa

[rufian]

Re: back to africa

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: B_P</div><div class="ubbcode-body">*kissteet*

Mi whole pint is why goh enywhe. Wi peeple of di Caribbean developed deh soh is wi home yushi. </div></div>
my point as well, that is one of the things i wanted to point out in reference to my name. we are african enough, who know what they know, know and who dont dont, that is what makes us what we are. if you want to look for african anything, there is enough right in your own backyard.

[Gen]

Re: back to africa

does she even desire said allegiance ?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

you sure?

you have 4 grand-parents and they EACH had 4 grand-parents; after a few hundred years back you could have anything in your bloodline </div></div>

ayu a kill me
4 generations a back and I know about the differences. Now you have some explaining to do So you know that we is all mixed so why go back to Africa? Why dont you say we should go back to Europe? </div></div>

now you are confusing the issue and perhaps your self;

why should an african-trans-atlantic holocaust descended person like myself go 'back' to europe?
and going 'back to africa' in the sense i speak is more culturally and consciously at first than an actual physical move to the african continent...
africa is in me no matter where on earth i dwell, but allegiance is allways first to the mother

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[rufian]

Re: back to africa

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

you sure?

you have 4 grand-parents and they EACH had 4 grand-parents; after a few hundred years back you could have anything in your bloodline </div></div>

ayu a kill me
4 generations a back and I know about the differences. Now you have some explaining to do So you know that we is all mixed so why go back to Africa? Why dont you say we should go back to Europe? </div></div>

now you are confusing the issue and perhaps your self;

why should an african-trans-atlantic holocaust descended person like myself go 'back' to europe?
and going 'back to africa' in the sense i speak is more culturally and consciously at first than an actual physical move to the african continent...
africa is in me no matter where on earth i dwell, but allegiance is allways first to the mother

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man if have African ancestors and I have European ancestors, the question to go back to africa has the same merits as to go back to Europe. This is logical.


at last, consciously ie in spirit cause all the call you a call africa you na want go deh

[jah_yout]

Re: back to africa

trust me...if i go to africa i will be greeted by some as a long lost relative upon arrival...(not a utopia, just greetings)...

i've been to europe, and let's just say i was not as warmly greeted...
to your surprise they didn't see me as a 'european'

[jah_yout]

Re: back to africa

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">does she even desire said allegiance ?
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i doubt it, but a wise man once wrote:
'honor thy mother and father so that thy days will be longer'

suh wi naah figet mama africa

[rufian]

Re: back to africa

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">trust me...if i go to africa i will be greeted by some as a long lost relative upon arrival...(not a utopia, just greetings)...

i've been to europe, and let's just say i was not as warmly greeted...
to your surprise they didn't see me as a 'european'

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be specific. which part of Africa? Because if you went to Lybia or Mauritania my friend you are better off in Europe

[jah_yout]

Re: back to africa

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">trust me...if i go to africa i will be greeted by some as a long lost relative upon arrival...(not a utopia, just greetings)...

i've been to europe, and let's just say i was not as warmly greeted...
to your surprise they didn't see me as a 'european'

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be specific. which part of Africa? Because if you went to Lybia or Mauritania my friend you are better off in Europe </div></div>

yea i get it...it's a joke, right?

actually i was thinking more in terms of ghana, nigeria, gambia, senegal, angola, ivory coast, mali, etc

you know- places my ancestors came from

[rufian]

Re: back to africa

(((jahyouth)))

Only two blacks I met from Mauritania had stories to tell, needless to say there are slaves still there. Following news from Lybia also tell tales of savage treatment to other black West Africans. Oh well.
It is not good to generalize.

[Boricua_papi]

Re: back to africa

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">trust me...if i go to africa i will be greeted by some as a long lost relative upon arrival...(not a utopia, just greetings)...

i've been to europe, and let's just say i was not as warmly greeted...
to your surprise they didn't see me as a 'european'

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be specific. which part of Africa? Because if you went to Lybia or Mauritania my friend you are better off in Europe </div></div>

yea i get it...it's a joke, right?

actually i was thinking more in terms of ghana, nigeria, gambia, senegal, angola, ivory coast, mali, etc

you know- places my ancestors came from </div></div>

Mi here sey dem nuh like West Indians ova deh.

[Wahalla]

Re: back to africa

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">(((jahyouth)))

Only two blacks I met from Mauritania had stories to tell, needless to say there are slaves still there. Following news from Lybia also tell tales of savage treatment to other black West Africans. Oh well.
It is not good to generalize. </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">if i go to africa i will be greeted by some as a long lost relative upon arrival </div></div> .. which implies he has never been...

Well I can say I was even though I am a Taino called a cosin and told we must / could be related.. on the other hand I have been machine gunned, held up, robbed, arrested, detained, frustrated by the most byzantine buracrasy, had to pay bribes while in Africa...

I love Africa... Dont get why myself.. I will always be an outsider there... But htere is something that appeals to me.. the politeness.... (and I have never met a rude African in Africa... not a generalistation anecdodal evidence...)

I was in Libya during the race riots in 2001.. Lets say the sentiment I heard was identical to Johhny cakes and the same justifications for them. And that as we are told the intention is not rascist merely a joke.. Mauretania is something else.. and one can see the causes of why slavery persists very close to the surface as well as the rationalisation.. poverty, lack of water, food security, and enviroment...

[rufian]

Re: back to africa

your second paragraph is confusing.

[rufian]

Re: back to africa

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: B_P</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Mi here sey dem nuh like West Indians ova deh. </div></div>

who would? when your slave become your master \o/

[jah_yout]

Re: back to africa

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wahalla</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">(((jahyouth)))

Only two blacks I met from Mauritania had stories to tell, needless to say there are slaves still there. Following news from Lybia also tell tales of savage treatment to other black West Africans. Oh well.
It is not good to generalize. </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">if i go to africa i will be greeted by some as a long lost relative upon arrival </div></div> .. which implies he has never been...

Well I can say I was even though I am a Taino called a cosin and told we must / could be related.. on the other hand I have been machine gunned, held up, robbed, arrested, detained, frustrated by the most byzantine buracrasy, had to pay bribes while in Africa...

I love Africa... Dont get why myself.. <span style="font-weight: bold">I will always be an outsider there...</span> But htere is something that appeals to me.. the politeness.... (and I have never met a rude African in Africa... not a generalistation anecdodal evidence...)

I was in Libya during the race riots in 2001.. Lets say the sentiment I heard was identical to Johhny cakes and the same justifications for them. And that as we are told the intention is not rascist merely a joke.. Mauretania is something else.. and one can see the causes of why slavery persists very close to the surface as well as the rationalisation.. poverty, lack of water, food security, and enviroment... </div></div>

but wahalla some of those eritrean ethnic groups can pass fi taino

[Tuff Gong]

Re: back to africa

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">why didn't japan put america out after world war 2?

simple- they couldn't;
amin put the asians out of uganda- what happened there?

it's not that simple and you know it </div></div>

You are leaving out whole swaths of information:

Japan fought a war with the world during which it sided with the Axis, he side that lost.
Part of the agreement, which the allies and the defeated Axis forces agreed to, was the occupation of Japan. The USA getting the prize.

Idi Amin not only turned on foreigners in his country but also his own people, dining on some of them in the process. Which is exactly the point I was trying to make we only too happy to give the vilest African despot a pass, all we need to show is that at one time during their bloody reign they [censored] off some foreigners, never mind that they and their successors managed to keep raping and pillaging their own.

It interesting that you contrasted Japan with the Congo because Japan even with its modern day occupation by hostile foreigners was able to rise above it all and thrive...tell me where is the progress in the Congo?

[rufian]

Re: back to africa

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">..

but wahalla some of those eritrean ethnic groups can pass fi taino </div></div>

you like to judge by appearance eh? I knew one Eritrean who thought that whites were being anti-semitic towards him. took me some time to get it. lol