would you kill

[Gen]

Re: would you kill

not if they are home schooled

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: B_P</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: J kid</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nope, mi would sen ALL ah mi pickney dem an wife out goh wuk. </div></div>

But wait. Di pickney haffi goh school. </div></div>

[Tuff Gong]

Re: would you kill

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: B_P</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: J kid</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nope, mi would sen ALL ah mi pickney dem an wife out goh wuk. </div></div>

But wait. Di pickney haffi goh school. </div></div>

Cut cost...going out to school becomes a cost!

[mountaingal]

Re: would you kill

these people kill their children out of a sense of love, to what i understand. this impulse is well known. they believe that the kids would suffer if allowed to live after their parents died.

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">these people kill their children out of a sense of love, to what i understand. this impulse is well known. they believe that the kids would suffer if allowed to live after their parents died.
</div></div>There is an abundance of evidence that this is not the 19th Centaury, kids don't starve, enter child labour camps because they are poor.
More kids are abused nowadays because adults very close to them choose to do so. It affects rich, poor and in-between.
A simple mass appeal and a we-are-the-5-children-world would have found them better conditions and he could ahead and off himself if he wanted to.
Leave the wife for another man who can afford her and desire some company.

[Yuriatin]

Re: would you kill

Mi rah!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">these people kill their children out of a sense of love, to what i understand. this impulse is well known. they believe that the kids would suffer if allowed to live after their parents died.
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[Gen]

Re: would you kill

and yuh know ascawding to wah mi read, him seh the wife did agree wid him fi end dem life no one will ever know if those really were her wishes


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">these people kill their children out of a sense of love, to what i understand. this impulse is well known. they believe that the kids would suffer if allowed to live after their parents died.
</div></div>There is an abundance of evidence that this is not the 19th Centaury, kids don't starve, enter child labour camps because they are poor.
More kids are abused nowadays because adults very close to them choose to do so. It affects rich, poor and in-between.
A simple mass appeal and a we-are-the-5-children-world would have found them better conditions and he could ahead and off himself if he wanted to.
Leave the wife for another man who can afford her and desire some company.
</div></div>

[Jazz]

Re: would you kill

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">these people kill their children out of a sense of love, to what i understand. this impulse is well known. they believe that the kids would suffer if allowed to live after their parents died.
</div></div>There is an abundance of evidence that this is not the 19th Centaury, kids don't starve, enter child labour camps because they are poor.
More kids are abused nowadays because adults very close to them choose to do so. It affects rich, poor and in-between.
A simple mass appeal and a we-are-the-5-children-world would have found them better conditions and he could ahead and off himself if he wanted to.
Leave the wife for another man who can afford her and desire some company.
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But one of the news reports said that he and the wife hatched the plot togteher and the wife was the one who said &quot;why leave the kids to stranger&quot;

mi cannot fathom as a mother... dem words coming from my mouth - unless I knew they would lead a very painful and unhappy life.

[Gen]

Re: would you kill

no jazz it wasn't one trick question mi was juss wondering after mi read bout dem people deh.

what cause smaddy fi juss feel suh hopeless man

[Tuff Gong]

Re: would you kill

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: A_lil_Jazz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But one of the news reports said that he and the wife hatched the plot togteher and the wife was the one who said &quot;why leave the kids to stranger&quot;

mi cannot fathom as a mother... dem words coming from my mouth - unless I knew they would lead a very painful and unhappy life. </div></div>...Let me go out on a limb way out and say no woman is going to want to kill five kids.
It has been done but mental problems and trill of serial killings are most often identified at the core of such behaivour.

[Jazz]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: A_lil_Jazz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But one of the news reports said that he and the wife hatched the plot togteher and the wife was the one who said &quot;why leave the kids to stranger&quot;

mi cannot fathom as a mother... dem words coming from my mouth - unless I knew they would lead a very painful and unhappy life. </div></div>...Let me go out on a limb way out and say no woman is going to want to kill five kids.
It has been done but mental problems and trill of serial killings are most often identified at the core of such behaivour.
</div></div>

so maybe she nevva rightid needa

[j-kid]

Re: would you kill

Growing up inna JA many of us have been through worst. Some of us may have forgotten how to survive after years on easy-street.

[Yuriatin]

Re: would you kill

Jazz - it's been reported via several sources, that the mother's involvement in a suicide pact, was false.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: A_lil_Jazz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: A_lil_Jazz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But one of the news reports said that he and the wife hatched the plot togteher and the wife was the one who said &quot;why leave the kids to stranger&quot;

mi cannot fathom as a mother... dem words coming from my mouth - unless I knew they would lead a very painful and unhappy life. </div></div>...Let me go out on a limb way out and say no woman is going to want to kill five kids.
It has been done but mental problems and trill of serial killings are most often identified at the core of such behaivour.
</div></div>

so maybe she nevva rightid needa </div></div>

[Jazz]

Re: would you kill

Oh Gosh - look how de pickney dem sweet man
Lord what ah wikkid world dis.

[j-kid]

Re: would you kill

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Yuri_</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Some of his family are saying he has been a little off for a long time. Others report on his life long paranoia.

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Den di wife mussi bin crazi tuh. Shi did ah drink di same mad puss pis, caa noh ooman agree dat easy fi kill dem pickney. Why dem could'nt lef di pickney fi dem family fi care for?

[Yuriatin]

Here's the Letter ...

.. den look o im tek time fi type ie up!

click thru here to bottom to see actual letter

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Text of Ervin Lupoe's letter to KABC
From news services
Posted: 01/27/2009 04:51:06 PM PST

WILMINGTON - Here is a redacted text of the letter sent to KABC today by Ervin Lupoe, who is believed to have killed his wife and five children today at their home in Wilmington. A redacted copy of the letter was posted on the ABC7 Web site.

<span style="font-style: italic">&quot;To whom it may concern:

&quot;To start off about this tragic story, my name is Ervin Lupoe, my wife Ana Lupoe, my eldest daughter Brittney Lupoe-8yrs, my twin daughters Jaszmin, Jassely-5yrs, my twin boys Benjamin, Christian 2yrs 4mo.

&quot;We worked at Kiaser (sic) Permanente West Los Angeles. My wife as a mammo. Tech. damn fine one ask everyone including the physicians. My new position as a Special procedural tech. My position was a fight to get, in fact had to file a grievance with the union for discrimination and HIPPA violations, then another administrator had to correct the DA (redacted) regarding the union procedures, the ADA who did this is, I truly believe is the reason, well not the whole reason, but added kindling to the fire, why we are dead, (redacted).

&quot;Well my wife and I were being investigated for misrepresentation of our employment to an outside agency for the benefit to ourselves's, childcare. When after we had our initial interview on Dec. 19th. It seems our fat with the company had been decided on Dec. 22nd, yet on the 23rd, I was told by my administrator, (redacted) that, `You should not even had bothered to come to work today you should have blown your brains out.' After such admonishment from my administrator, assuming there had been a decision reached, I contacted my union rep. who stated goto HR and inform them of the incident, and to the union reps. knowledge there was no decision made.

&quot;(redacted) the HR person handling our matter stated that there was no decision reached as of yet and that an outside agency was handling the matter. (redacted) stated to me that she had spoken to (redacted) and (redacted) concerning the statement made, but (redacted) completely denied making such a comment. I produced the names of the employees, and (redacted) reached me two days later stating (redacted) thought about the matter and did state (redacted) made the comment. Then (redacted) asked me how I would accept (redacted) apology, but not to answer just yet, think about it a couple days and let (redacted) know. I left the office and two days later my wife and I were terminated. Our administrator also stated that we would not be eligible for unemployment, my wife applied anyway.

&quot;We returned Kiaser (sic) Permanente's property prior to leaving the facility, yet the company could not provide us with our license's so that we may look for other employment. I let the (redacted) of the facility know what was occurring yet she stated there was nothing she could do but refer us the HR or our union rep. We were told by (redacted) that we should have received our license's as they were mailed, yet we did not and when we attempted to reach her concerning the matter and unable to reach her, again we reached the assistant administrator of the facility who again stated the same to contact HR. We stated we have attempter (sic) but there was know response. Then when (redacted) reached us, she stated don't contact (redacted) ... any more concerning any problems.

&quot;So after a horrendous ordeal my wife felt it better to end our lives and why leave our children in someone's else's hands, in addition it seems Kiaser Permanente want's us to kill ourselves and take our family with us. They did nothing to the manager who stated such, and did not attempt to assist us in the matter, knowing we have no job and 5 children under 8 years with no place to go. So here we are.

Ervin Lupoe </span>