Now's the time to end Black History Month

[rufian]

Re: Is Black History Month Still Necessary?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Humano</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Black history month is evidence that the experiences of peoples of African descent is viewed as being separate from history, itself. How do people get away with such an anti-intellectual view?

I agree, the emphasis should be on incorporating black history into American history itself, and indeed, the history of civilization. When black history is seen as separate, it will remain being treated with condescension, as a little departure to be tolerated for 28 or 29 days, then get back to the really important stuff on March 1. </div></div>

During this election it was very clear how much &quot;the black&quot; is necessary for many, dissolving it appears to take away a history that a people have been trying to create, thinking that they never had

[twiney]

Re: Now's the time to end Black History Month

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlackStar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There's more to black history than Madame CJ Walker, peanut butter, and MLK Jr. but you'd never know it from Black History Month. </div></div>


WORD .....For me Black History Month has always been a farce ... I want to know acknowledge the significant contributions of black people or anybody who play a part history every day.

[Dyoll_73]

Re: Is Black History Month Still Necessary?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Humano</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Black history month is evidence that the experiences of peoples of African descent is viewed as being separate from history, itself. How do people get away with such an anti-intellectual view?

I agree, the emphasis should be on incorporating black history into American history itself, and indeed, the history of civilization. When black history is seen as separate, it will remain being treated with condescension, as a little departure to be tolerated for 28 or 29 days, then get back to the really important stuff on March 1. </div></div>

During this election it was very clear how much &quot;the black&quot; is necessary for many, dissolving it appears to take away a history that a people have been trying to create, thinking that they never had </div></div>

I don't follow.

[Wahalla]

Re: Now's the time to end Black History Month

Was Cripus Atticus getting in the way of a miss aimed bullet as important as say the formation of the United States ??????

See that is Cripus was an anchorism of history.. while others were going over to the other george he went an became a terrorist on behalf of the yanki.... British while being slavers gave black men guns to fight their enslavers.... Washington kicked them out at Valley Forge and sent them back to be slaves...

Would studying Washington as per his interactions with Africans, his poltics of race not be better the usual ignoring / over inflating CJ Walker or peanut butter ????

I mean there are little important things like Roosvelt and the creation of the red line exclusions of Africans from getting mortages that was of far greater impact on the slowing of the development socially and economically.. And who tried to end it Dubya...

Well I desists rather than being called an idiot by the unique yanki education system... But then we know world history is only yanki base and people wuth Melanin can have history out the narrow remit of US.. For god sake put the importance of MLK in context....

[rufian]

Re: Is Black History Month Still Necessary?

In other words, they still need things they can call their own. Your suggestion would dissolve black history by fusing it in while &quot;we don't know who we are&quot; still lingers.

[Dyoll_73]

Re: Is Black History Month Still Necessary?

Black history will &quot;dissolve&quot; if 'black history month' celebrations end?

You can't be serious.

[Dyoll_73]

Re: Now's the time to end Black History Month

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">British while being slavers gave black men guns to fight their enslavers.... Washington kicked them out at Valley Forge and sent them back to be slaves...</div></div>

Some blacks thought &quot;the enemy of my enemy is my friend&quot; and joined the British imperialist forces. But this was 1776 and the Brits had their brothers as slaves in the West Indies. Perhaps the Brits were just cynically exploiting them. And if they had prevailed over Washington and his men, would they have improved the status of blacks as they had promised? And by how much? I would say, not too much. But clearly, some blacks felt they would have a better deal with the British than the American 'freedom fighters.' And I can't blame them.

Jefferson, who authored, substantially, the Declaration of Independence, and who wrote lofty words like &quot;all men are created equal&quot; was, himself, a slaveholder. The commander of the resistance forces, fighting for American freedom, George Washington, was a slaveholder. Patrick Henry of &quot;give me freedom or give me death&quot; fame was, believe it or not, a slave holder. Most of the 'founding fathers', with few exceptions like Ben Franklyn, John Adams, Thomas Paine (through his writings), and a few others, were slave holders. Those Black people were mostly uneducated, but they knew BS when they saw it.

Of course, blacks fought in the American war of independence against the British forces. Well, when the war was over, slavery continued. Those blacks who were free before kept theirs. Lucky them. Clearly, blacks weren't deserving of freedom; they weren't even humans. And it would take over 80 years later for the Emancipation Proclamation, and then the 13th Amendment.

Read what Frederick Douglass thought about the 4th of July in this speech.

[rufian]

Re: Is Black History Month Still Necessary?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Humano</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Black history will &quot;dissolve&quot; if 'black history month' celebrations end?

You can't be serious. </div></div>

I am referring to what you said &quot;black history&quot; not black history month and I was also very clear.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Humano</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I agree, the emphasis should be on incorporating black history into American history itself, and indeed, the history of civilization.</div></div>

Anyhow people from the Caribbean and others who have been Americanized just might not feel the need for this month as African-Americans whose history it truly is.

[Dyoll_73]

Re: Is Black History Month Still Necessary?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Humano</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Black history will &quot;dissolve&quot; if 'black history month' celebrations end?

You can't be serious. </div></div>

I am referring to what you said &quot;black history&quot; not black history month and I was also very clear.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Humano</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I agree, the emphasis should be on incorporating black history into American history itself, and indeed, the history of civilization.</div></div>

Anyhow people from the Caribbean and others who have been Americanized just might not feel the need for this month as African-Americans whose history it truly is. </div></div>


So blacks who came from the Caribbean are not really African-Americans? They are merely 'americanized'? Is that the subtle implication there? Well, you may have a point, since there are blacks who prefer simply &quot;American&quot; to the hyphenated identity.

Are you also suggesting that African American history is the sum total of black history?

[rufian]

Re: Is Black History Month Still Necessary?

Me like your style, reminds me of some of mine.

Anyhow I am just playing by the context given in this thread. I would really like an African-American perspective on the thought of Caribbean people now Americans who would suggest that Black History month is nonsense.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Humano</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Are you also suggesting that African American history is the sum total of black history?
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Interesting question although not my suggestion. But, they should call it African American Month, after all the history they are dealing with is tailored for them.