Fitna: Geert Wilder - Racist or Truth?

[Morpheous]

Geert Wilder MP from the Netherlands was banned from entering the UK today to promote his film - Fitna despite visiting the UK in the past and having lunch with political elites in London.

His short film about 17 minutes has caused debate and upset as many see it as spreading hate and racism. I tracked the film down on youtube and watched it.

<span style="font-weight: bold">Fitna: Geert Wilder</span>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kcev1K-NOc&amp;feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdLMFs4fv4E&amp;feature=related

[Morpheous]

Re: Fitna: Geert Wilder - Racist or Truth?

I forgot to mention that you need to sign in or subscribe to see it. Just to summarise - the film blames the quran/koran for inciting violence and suicide bombings/attacks that took place on 9/11, 7/7 and the train bomb in Spain etc. as well as the spread of hatred towards non-muslims and the west.

[Morpheous]

Re: Fitna: Geert Wilder - Racist or Truth?

Another whiteman's summary of the history of islam.

This one you guys can access 1-5 clips
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3he6TVkK...t=1&amp;index=3

[foolya]

Re: Fitna: Geert Wilder - Racist or Truth?

White christians propagandas about the muslims. that's christians white used behave before the law restrain them.

[Morpheous]

Re: Fitna: Geert Wilder - Racist or Truth?

That maybe true but the third post I placed above (link) shows another whiteman's views on islam and he doesn't look muslim. An unusual praise of islam from a whiteman. The third post I did (link) is at first misleading until you give the first clip time to run. The other 4 clips are on the right hand side. Some of it I disagree with however, in terms of what islam invented etc.

[Morpheous]

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A differnt angle from what the israeli 'jews' normally take. I must admit the views express in the link below by said 'jews' was totally a surpirse to me because I didn't know some of these guys felt the way they did! Interesting - <span style="color: #CC0000">unnuh must watch it!!!</span>
<span style="font-weight: bold">Link:</span>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJqvVlwy1Us&amp;NR=1

<span style="font-weight: bold">Their web site interview:</span>

http://www.nkusa.org/activities/Demonstrations/20090108London.cfm

[Wahalla]

Re: Fitna: Geert Wilder - Racist or Truth?

I may not agree with him but he should be allowed in to have his say....

[rufian]

Re: Fitna: Geert Wilder - Racist or Truth?

seen some things on youtube along the same line. i believe he should be let to have his say but new rules now.
I do not believe that mere talk literature can turn anyone into a racist who isnt prepared for it.
in order for them to have maximum power over the whole world islam is one system standing in the way and as such a big threat.

[Marielle]

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It's quite frightening how many people are into him in this country, and VOTED FOR HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On the other hand, I have a friend who lives opposite a mosque in Amsterdam that is one of the &quot;hatred-preaching&quot; ones in this country (there's been about 3 or 4 identified). I read that Mohammed Atta was even in there!!!! (lived in Hamburg)......

Going to visit my friend, I get the creeps from how those guys look at me coming out of there!!!!! bloody hypocrites!!!!

[Marielle]

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Oh yea, Geert Wilders.....the guy with a permanent bad hair day

[Derek]

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Racist.
It was Jews before, Blacks after and Arabs/Muslims today.

[Marielle]

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OMG........just watched the Fitna film and the mosque mentioned - El Taweed - that's the one.......

Watched it with my son who told me about all the rappers doing anti-Wilders videos on youtube.

thought this one was quite good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7IADuPpcok&amp;NR=1

[Morpheous]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wahalla</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I may not agree with him but he should be allowed in to have his say....</div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i believe he should be let to have his say but new rules now.
I do not believe that mere talk literature can turn anyone into a racist who isnt prepared for it.</div></div>

I agree.
Damn Did I just agree wid sukuna lol
It won't last

[Morpheous]

Re: Fitna: Geert Wilder - Racist or Truth?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Racist.
It was Jews before, Blacks after and Arabs/Muslims today. </div></div>
It was the russians, &quot;communists&quot; china, japanese and vietnamese too.
Who will be next... bwoy mankind just &quot;love to hate&quot; lol

[Morpheous]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Marielle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">OMG........just watched the Fitna film and the mosque mentioned - El Taweed - that's the one.......

Watched it with my son who told me about all the rappers doing anti-Wilders videos on youtube.

thought this one was quite good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7IADuPpcok&amp;NR=1 </div></div>
LOL at the video

More eye opener on the orthodox 'jews' can be found on this link. Scroll down the page to see the list of protests http://www.nkusa.org