Casting Couch

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I can't find Blu's thread where he talks about the casting couch. I responded and said that this also takes place in the corporate world.

Let me start by saying that any man who is going to accept sexual favours granted by a woman because she wants to get ahead is a dawg.

So I would like to ask this, when a woman to get ahead, why is it that it suddenly turns into a rape allegation.

One of our boardites LOVEs to bring up about Errol Flynn. He was found NOT GULITY of rape charges and here are the facts:



So here it is she admits that she to try and get ahead in the movies and suddenly this turns into a rape charge...during a yachting trip that she went on willingly...give me a flippin break.

Meanwhile, for Peggy Satterlee, the bubble was about to burst. Errol Flynn's arrest based on her charge took place in November and he'd be tried in January 1943, the very period during which Arabian Nights opened and had its initial success. This was something Peggy might have shared had she not been confined to a witness box, as Universal arranged for junketsnationwide to display Arabian Nightsplayers and others on studio payroll. What follows is personal appearing list for Boston during the very week that Peggy was giving testimony: Maria Montez, Sabu, Elyse Knox, Donald O' Connor, Peggy Ryan, Gloria Jean, and Nigel Bruce, all greeted by Massachusetts's governor. Did they discuss among themselves the scandal into which Peggy Satterlee had beenplunged? Certainly the Flynn trial was Topic A on newspaper headlines nationwide. A couple of theatres playing Arabian Nights saw opportunity to trade on the mess and billed Peggy first in ads despite the fact her part was miniscule. Aftermath of all this would be grim for damaged Hollywoodmerchandise that was Peggy Satterlee. She made rounds of San Franciscovaudeville bookers but got nowhere, then with her sister tried and failed to get jobs at Douglas Aircraft in April of 1943. The press was done with Peggy other than squibs like one from columnist Dorothy Kilgallen in January 1945 that reported plans for a name change and new hair color toward re-entry to films. After that, the (news)paper trail ends. Question then, is this: Does Peggy Satterlee still walk among us? She'd be eighty-eight if that's the case. Her prosecuting co-witness Betty Hansen did re-surface and was interviewed some year's back, but no trace of Peggy. Does anyone know what finally became of her?

http://greenbriarpictureshows.blogspot.ca/2014/03/before-she-accused-errol-flynn_21.html

And she is not the only one who has pulled this kind of stunt over the years.

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It seems that Flynn got entangled with two lovely young things at two different times in the space of a year. One was a Miss Betty Hansen, aged 17; the other a Peggy Satterlee of even more tender years.
The girls were irked with Flynn and their parents were irked with him. The State of California, having been duly applied to, decided to try him for both charges at one and the same time. The public, to say the least, never had it better.
Flynn claimed that the whole thing was ridiculous; although he knew the girls, he had no knowledge that they were under 18. Flynn had a point. Both young women appeared to be of the age of legal consent:
Miss Satterlee danced at N.T.O’s Florentine Gardens, clad mostly in a plunge neckline, and Miss Hansen had come to the coast with movie ambitions. When dressed for the kill, they could, both of them, have been an attractive pair of youngish grandmothers, what with their warpaint and mascara.
Satterlee and Hansen, however, hardly looked like “youngish grandmothers” in the courtroom. No doubt their attorneys had advised them on the need for innocent presentation:
Miss Satterlee appeared without even powder, clad in a little girl’s billowy dress and flat wedgies, and she had her hair artfully rigged in two long braids down her back caught with fetching bows.
She could have been ten. And Miss Hansen, also eschewing cosmetics, wore flat heeled shoes and a plain drab smock.
Miss Hansen was the first to take the stand. She claimed to have gone to dinner at the home of Flynn’s friend, McEvoy, where she had been given an “evil green drink” which had made her very sick. Always the gentleman, Flynn had taken her upstairs to take a “nap.” He had also helped her undress. On cross-examination, Flynn’s lawyer, the famed Jerry Geisler, inquired of Miss Hansen:
“But when you found you were not going to sleep, didn’t you try and push him away?”
Miss Hansen admitted she had not pushed him, kicked him or scratched him.
Miss Satterlee’s testimony was similar in nature except, in this case, Flynn’s unwanted advances had taken place on his yacht, the Sirocco. She stated that she had not screamed for help even though there were people nearby. She stated quaintly that she had not thought it worthwhile because: “the refrigerator was running.” With logic like that, it’s not surprising that Flynn was acquitted on both charges. Newsweek (yes they had Newsweek way back then) stated:
It happened in the best Hollywood tradition. The defendant leaped joyfully to his feet. Spectators cheered. Flashbulbs popped…”
Flynn was innocent. Not one seemed to be particularly put out over the not guilty verdict, not even Betsy Hansen’s mother who issued a statement from her home in Lincoln, Nebraska:
Oh well, nobody got hurt. I have no hard feeling toward Mr. Flynn. Betty is the cutest little thing you ever saw…a clean little Christian girl!
MORE ON THE TRIAL
Jurors are prone to speaking out following verdicts and the Flynn jurors were no exception. Motion Picture in conjunction with Hollywood Magazine brings us the following:
What really convinced the jury that he was innocent?
With MOTION PICTURE-HOLLYWOOD’S policy of bringing you the inside story behind all front-page Hollywood news, we went to the individual jurors and asked them. Nine women and three men—all mature, intelligent and conscientious—sat in on the fate of Flynn, but because they are respectable citizens with families and want to avoid the spotlight, we have respected their desire for privacy by not quoting any member by name.
One of the jurors told me significantly, “It was not so much Flynn’s testimony that helped him as it was the testimony of both the girls who brought charges against him.”
“Their testimony proved to us that they were not always telling the truth. For instance, Betty Hansen first said that she undressed herself, and then said that Flynn had undressed her. During the preliminary hearing she said that the alleged act took place on a large bed in a large room, but on the stand she said it was a small bed in an alcove.”
The appearance of the girls did their cases no good either, according to the jurors. “There were no tears, no grief in recalling the alleged acts. We felt that a girl whose virtue had been molested would be unable to control her emotions on recalling the incident, but Betty Hansen and Peggy Satterlee were belligerent and displayed no regret.
“Besides, Mrs. Satterlee knew that her daughter was living in the apartment of a married man and was accepting money and gifts from him.”
“I felt sure,” a pleasant-faced, motherly juror told me, “that Betty Hansen first brought charges against Flynn out of hurt feelings and a sudden desire for revenge, and that when her case was weak, Peggy Satterlee was brought in.”

“Betty, on the other hand, was furious at Errol Flynn because he had paid no attention to her at Fred McEvoy’s party which she had crashed. She had come uninvited to that party with the express purpose of playing up to Mr. Flynn to obtain his help in getting into pictures…”
The jury was alert, not only in weighing every word uttered in court, but in making their sage analysis of the evidence displayed. The snapshots of Peggy Satterlee in a bathing suit taken on Sunday a few hours after she said she was attacked, told them plenty. “She looked happy and carefree, not at all like a girl who had suffered a harrowing physical experience as she had claimed.”
Not a thing missed their keen scrutiny. When Peggy told how she and Cathcart-Jones had played tag one night in a mortuary and how she had placed her face next to that of a dead man, they were revolted and arrived at the conclusion that a girl who could do that must be too calloused to be as deeply hurt as she said she was.

The Judge himself admonished the jurors that a birth certificate need not be viewed as conclusive evidence.
“We never felt that the girls were as young as they claimed,” several jurors explained. “Betty told us that she had been graduated from high school and then had gone to Teachers’ Training for two years before she came to Hollywood. Even a very bright girl—which Betty obviously was not—couldn’t have accomplished so much under the age of 17. Peggy looked and acted worldly; and on many occasions had sworn that she was older. For instance, she and her mother insisted that she was 18 when she applied for a driver’s license, and she said she was 21 when she applied for a job at a night club. Apparently she thought nothing of adjusting her age to suit the circumstances.”
One of the jurors stated that Errol Flynn’s reputation as a glamorous Hollywood star had no influence in her decision to vote for acquittal:
“Believe me,” one of the women told me, “I have seen him on the screen only once. I looked upon him as a man seeking justice, not as a dashing film star with a handsome profile…”
How can one argue with such eloquence?
THE week after Errol Flynn’s trial was over, the boys and girls who attended it and wrote it up gave him a party where the whole cast was re-enacted, amidst much merriment. The party was in payment for one Errol threw for them on the ninth floor of the Hall of Justice, while the jury was out cogitating as to his guilt or innocence. Errol had his butler bring down two cases of liquor and lots of sandwiches, and a merry time was had by all except the judge and jury. Errol also wanted time on the radio to thank the Great American Public for giving him such a fair trial. Networks wouldn’t go for it.
FLYNN’S AFTERMATH
Naturally, we can’t help wondering what happened to Fynn after the trial. It is noted that the well-known expression: “In Like Flynn” stems from his acquittal. The website For Shame! brings us the following:
Errol’s career didn’t really suffer from the trial, but rather from negative public opinion when he didn’t enlist during WWII (sidenote: not his fault, he wanted to, didn’t pass the physical, remarkable considering sword choreography prowess which you’d think the Army could use somehow). By the early 50s he’d really embraced a late-Kerouacian diet of cake and whiskey, resulting in alcoholism and weight gain.
But Errol, the scalawag, the rapscallion, had to go out with an inappropriately younger bang: at the age of 50, he met and fell in love with a FIFTEEN YEAR OLD whom he planned TO MARRY and with whom he planned to move to Jamaica. Very, very unfortunately, Errol died of a heart attack in 1959 before he could really love or marry his little island childbride. Sad.

Although the moralists among us may despise Errol Flynn for his caddish, inappropriate and downright sexist behavior (not to mention his alleged Nazi leanings), he never seemed to express any regrets for his many flaws. But what can you expect from a man who stated in his typically flippant manner:
“I like my scotch old and my woman young.”

http://www.allthingscrimeblog.com/20...-rape-charges/

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Errol Flynn may have been one of the first film stars to learn “the public never forgets.” By the mid-40s, Flynn’s career as a matinee idol and swashbuckling film star had dimmed thanks to scandalous reports of alcoholism, womanizing, and the alleged sexual assault of two underage girls. (To think how he would have fared in today’s TMZ-monitored society!) Even his 1959 death was tinged with salaciousness, when he reportedly died in the arms of his teenage girlfriend, Beverly Aadland, a former chorus girl whom Flynn had allegedly begun dating when she was only 15.

A former chorus girl at 15?

In 1961, Aadland’s mother, Florence, wrote a book about the relationship between her daughter and Flynn called The Big Love. Decades later, filmmakers Richard Glatzer and Wash Westmoreland, intrigued by the book, tracked down the publicity-shy Beverly Aadland in her Palmdale, California, home, managed to gain her confidence, and used her recollections of the May-December romance as the basis for their film, The Last of Robin Hood, which premiered last night at the Toronto Film Festival. Despite the fact that Beverly rarely gave interviews about her relationship with Flynn, the filmmakers say she gave the project her blessing before her death in 2010. The Last of Robin Hood, which is dedicated to Beverly, stars Kevin Kline as the charismatic aging Flynn, Dakota Fanning as Beverly, and Susan Sarandon as the aforementioned, tell-all-authoring stage mother whose own dreams of becoming a dancer were derailed by a car accident that left her paralyzed.

In the interest of Old Hollywood gossip, we’ve compiled some of the juiciest Last of Robin Hoodplot points, which refer to Flynn’s illicit romance, below:

• Flynn first notices Beverly rehearsing as a chorus girl at the studio where he is working and summons her to his office via a third party. Shortly after, he invites her to “audition” for a part—an audition that happens to take place at a producer’s home at night. It is during this audition that Flynn takes Beverly’s virginity. (According to the film, Flynn does not learn that Beverly is 15 years old until later.)
• A stage mom through and through, Beverly’s mother does not seem remotely alarmed when Flynn invites her daughter to an “audition” late at night, despite the fact that Flynn has a reputation as, to use Beverly’s father’s terms, “a walking penis.”
• Although Beverly is unimpressed by Flynn, she eventually succumbs to his charm. Flynn, convinced that Beverly looks like a wood nymph, gives her the pet name “Woodsy.”
• Flynn is able to woo Beverly’s starstruck mother and even encourage her to tag along on their dates as a third wheel because, as he tells her, he does not want the press to allege something unsavory.
• After Beverly’s mother discovers that her daughter is sleeping with Flynn, Flynn is able to calm her nerves by promising that he will facilitate an acting career for Beverly. He takes her to an audition for Lolita, where he tells director Stanley Kubrick that he and Beverly are “a package deal.” (Obviously, this negotiation tactic does not work out.)
• In addition to drinking round-the-clock, Flynn begins using I.V. drugs to settle his back pain following a trip to Africa.
• At Beverly’s 17th birthday party, Flynn announces to friends and family that he and Beverly will be married.
• He produces a movie in Cuba so that Beverly can star called Cuban Rebel Girls. While filming, he falls ill and dictates a living will to Beverly so that she is taken care of in the event of his death.
• About a year later, while leasing his yacht in Canada so that he can fund his final divorce and marry Beverly, Flynn complains of back pain. Beverly escorts him to a doctor’s home in Canada.
• Alerted that Flynn is en route, the doctor and his wife invite guests over. Upon arriving, Flynn opts to amuse the crowd instead of be treated, regaling them with a story about the time his friends stole John Barrymore’s corpse from the mortuary and deposited it in Flynn’s living room as a prank.
• Moments later, Flynn leaves the room saying, “I’ve never felt better,” to get some rest. When Beverly checks on him, she finds him dead.
• The will Beverly transcribed for Flynn is deemed invalid because it does not have a signature. She does not inherit anything from the late actor.
• Beverly’s mother is arrested for public drunkenness afterward and as a consequence, Beverly is put into a juvenile home. Her mother is found guilty of contributing to her daughter’s delinquency and put in jail for 60 days.
• Beverly ultimately makes amends with her mother, who wrote The Big Love against Beverly’s wishes, on Florence’s death bed.
  

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/oscars/2013/09/errol-flynn-toronto-film-festival

The mother should have been horse whipped. What role do "stage mom's" play in all of this?

Actor's marriage to Errol Flynn saw a Rocky start and finish



Patrice Wymore Flynn, 1926-2014Actor Patrice Wymore was the third and last wife of Errol Flynn. She was 24 when they married; he was 41.
She began her career on Broadway in the 1940s, performing in musicals, and made her Hollywood debut in the Doris Day-Gordon MacRae romantic comedy Tea for Two in 1950.
That year she also co-starred in Rocky Mountain, a western that was notable mainly for bringing her together with Australian-born Flynn. She played a stagecoach passenger rescued from an Indian attack by Flynn in the role of a dashing Confederate army officer.

Soon after finishing the movie, Flynn broke off his engagement to a Romanian princess to marry Wymore. In his 1959 autobiography -My Wicked, Wicked Ways - Flynn wrote that he had his housekeeper break the news to the princess in a phone call.It was the third marriage for the notorious playboy, who in 1943 had been tried on statutory rape charges and acquitted, and the first for the elegant Wymore.
‘‘Patrice typified everything that I was not, and I presumed that she knew what my life was, since my life had been an open newspaper,’’ Flynn wrote in his memoir. ‘‘She could cook Indian curry, she could dance, she could sing, she was reserved, she had beauty, dignity … homebody qualities that go toward making a sensible and lasting marriage.’’
Their daughter, Arnella, was born in 1953, and they spent much of their time in Jamaica, where Flynn raised cattle and grew coconuts on a ranch.
Despite his professed desire for a steady marriage, however, Flynn continued his philandering, heavy drinking and drug use. He was also struggling in his career and had lost a fortune trying to make a film version of William Tell.
He and Wymore were separated when he died of a heart attack in 1959 in Canada, where he had been staying with his teenage girlfriend. He was 50.
Wymore never remarried and defended her late husband in interviews, maintaining that his rakish public image was not the Flynn she knew. ‘‘He just lost his way,’’ she said in 2005.
After Flynn’s death, Wymore had a part in Ocean’s 11 (1960), playing Frank Sinatra’s girlfriend, who tells him, ‘‘You really are a rat’’ and hurls an ashtray at him, and appeared on television.
Wymore was born in Miltonvale, Kansas, on December 17, 1926, the daughter of a farmer and businessman, and grew up in Salina. She appeared in vaudeville as a child, moving to New York in her teens to work as a model.
In the late 1960s, she retired from acting to manage the Jamaica ranch. She was voted Jamaica Rancher of the Year in the 1980s and also ran a boutique and a company that made wicker furniture.
Wymore is survived by a grandson, Luke Flynn. Arnella died in 1998.

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/obituaries/actors-marriage-to-errol-flynn-saw-a-rocky-start-and-finish-20140328-zqnwt.html

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12 Celebrities Reveal Their ‘Casting Couch’ Stories

Marilyn Monroe had many casting-couch experiences, but unlike the other celebrities mentioned, Monroe took up these offers. She traded sexual favors with producers, directors and actors to get ahead in her career. According to Barbara Leaming’s biography on Marilyn Monroe “When Marilyn approached Howard Hawks one weekend in Palm Springs, the director made it clear that he saw nothing special about her. He thought she was stupid and told her so. He wasn’t even interested in a sexual encounter.” – Ouch! Although Marilyn Monroe admitted to sleeping with people to advance her career, she would later call Hollywood ‘an overcrowded brothel.’

The following stories show it is possible to say no and still be successful as these experiences show.

Before celebrities catch their big breaks in Hollywood, they have to go through what every other aspiring star has to go through – auditioning. There is so much competition in Hollywood that some struggling actors/actresses will do whatever it takes to get the role. This desperateness on one end, and surplus of power on the other end, has led to the ‘casting couch’ mentality in the entertainment industry. The ‘casting couch’ refers to the exchange of sexual favors for film roles between casting directors or film producers and aspiring actresses or actors. Many Hollywood executives deny that the ‘casting couch’ exists in the entertainment industry, but these celebrities disagree. Here are twelve celebrities’ casting couch horror stories.

Joan Collins

Back in the 1960’s, Joan Collins was trying to make a name for herself in Hollywood. She was auditioning for the role of Cleopatra and was the front runner for the part. Collins reports that she was asked to go to bed with the head of the studio and that he asked her if she really wanted the part. She replied, “Yes.” He responded, “Well, then you’ll have to be nice to me.” Joan turned down his advance by walking out and Elizabeth Taylor ended up getting the role.

Susan Sarandon

In the November 2012 issue of Elle, Susan Sarandon revealed a casting couch nightmare that had occurred when she first started out in New York City. The Oscar winning actress stated, “I just went into a room, and a guy practically threw me on the desk. It was my early days in New York, and it was really disgusting. It wasn’t like I gave it a second thought. It was so badly done.” Susan Sarandon has gone on to have a very successful career and is now worth an estimated $50 million.

I have no sympathy for grown adults who give sexual favours to get ahead and then years later cry rape.

Now when they are children and underage teens, all bets are off.

Ryan Phillippe

In April 2010, Ryan Phillippe told Howard Stern while appearing on his radio talk show about a bizarre casting couch experience he had. Ryan said when he was 19-years-old that he had to flee a “creepy” casting-couch session. Phillippe never publicly went into further details regarding the incident. However, his story shows that casting-couch victims aren’t only females. They’re males too

Corey Feldman

In 2011, Corey Feldman did an interview with Nightline, where he stated several shocking comments. Feldman commented, “I can tell you that the No. 1 problem in Hollywood was and is and always will be pedophilia. That’s the biggest problem for children in this industry … It’s the big secret.” He added, “I was surrounded by [pedophiles] when I was 14 years old … Didn’t even know it. It wasn’t until I was old enough to realize what they were and what they wanted … till I went, Oh, my God. They were everywhere.” Feldman, now in his 40’s, released a memoir in 2013 that detailed the sexual abuse that him and the late actor, Corey Haim experienced as child actors in Hollywood.

Now at this time this happened, Thandie was old enough to know better.

Thandie Newton

Thandie Newton, best known for her roles in films like The Pursuit of Happyness, Crash and The Chronicles of Riddick, disclosed information about being sexually abused by a casting director when she was a teenager. Thandie told CNN in February 2013 about her casting couch experience stating, “The director asked me to sit with my legs apart, and the camera was positioned where it could see up my skirt. He asked me to put my leg over the arm of the chair, and before I started my dialogue, think about the character I was supposed to be having the dialogue with and how it felt to be made love to by this person.” Newton also asserted that the director told her to touch herself, before focusing the camera between her legs. Thandie added that he circulated the film at parties as well.

http://www.therichest.com/expensive-lifestyle/entertainment/12-celebrities-reveal-their-casting-couch-stories/12/

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Blu waiting for you here.

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Blu waiting for you here.

fame cost ann moas aff dem woo got itt paid da price

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fame cost ann moas aff dem woo got itt paid da price

Then why cry rape afterwards. These girls were anything but innocent. They had been working as exotic dancers and worse before they were discovered. They were also misrepresenting their ages egged on by "stage moms". Statutory rape laws were intended to protect innocent young girls. I would make a case that if the girls have been promiscuous, the law shouldn't apply.

Doesn't let Errol Flynn or any of these dawgasaurus producers off the hook. They are still dawgs for going with such young girls..... but just saying.

Roman Polanski claims its the same thing that happened to him but who knows. What happened after his arrest? Was he ever tried?

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Samantha Geimer tells her side of story in Roman Polanski case


Samantha Geimer, who recounts the case in a new memoir, 'The Girl,' has long held a nuanced view of what happened to her as a 13-year-old in 1977, preferring not to see herself as a tragic figure.



In 2009, Samantha Geimer was watching the daytime talk show "The View" from her then-home in Hawaii when the panel took up the topic of her encounter at age 13 with director Roman Polanski. Polanski had just been arrested in Switzerland, more than three decades after the day in 1977 that changed both their lives.
"It wasn't rape-rape," co-host Whoopi Goldberg said, setting off a firestorm of criticism. In fact, it was "rape-rape" by nearly any definition except the charge to which Polanski pleaded guilty (unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor) — the underage Geimer was drugged and verbally resistant, according to court records.
But after years of hearing other people's theories about that day, she was amused, more than anything, by Goldberg's choice of words. "I laughed so hard," Geimer said. "I thought, 'Oh, my God, she did not just say that.' These days, you can't say that. Everyone's gonna be all over you."

Geimer, 50 and a mother of three grown sons, has decided to tell her story herself in a memoir titled "The Girl: A Life in the Shadow of Roman Polanski." Her version of events may surprise those expecting a to-hell-and-back-again victim's account. The portions of the book describing the crime are restrained; she recalls that Polanski wore ankle boots and too much cologne, that he was arrogant but not violent. She feels more wounded by what she calls the "victim industry," the lawyers, judge and journalists who she feels sensationalized her case for their own interests.

"You shouldn't be able to make what happened to me worse so it's more interesting," Geimer said. "You're put upon to feel bad and be a victim so other people can use you as they see fit."
This month near her Nevada home, Geimer was candid but shy, a demeanor shaped perhaps by seeing her underwear held aloft in a courtroom when she was 14. She has long held a nuanced view of what happened to her, preferring not to see herself as a tragic figure but as a woman who lived through an alarmingly common crime that happened to be committed by a famous man.
Blond, green-eyed, with a warm smile, she goes by "Sam." When her husband, Dave, teased that she should lift her shirt during a photo shoot to promote the book, she smirked. "I think you can joke about anything," she said later. "I'm all right. I was not all right the year after it happened ... but I'm OK now. And when you start talking about 1977, there's a lot of things that are funny."

It was in March 1977 that the then Samantha Gailey climbed into Polanski's rented Mercedes for what she and her mother thought would be a magazine photo shoot. Her mother, an actress, had met Polanski at a party.
"We thought, 'Man, I'm gonna be famous now,'" Geimer said. "We'll get me in Vogue Paris and then maybe I'll get a good part. One step and you're on your way. That's what we thought it was, a chance, my big shot."
Instead, Polanski drove her to his friend Jack Nicholson's Hollywood Hills home, gave her Champagne and a piece of Quaalude and, after learning that she was not on birth control, EDIT raped her, according to court records.

Geimer, who worked with an uncredited co-author, describes how she emotionally departed the scene during the encounter, silently wishing for Polanski to stop talking. "He holds my arms at my sides and kisses me," she writes. "And I say, 'No, come on,' but between the pill and the champagne it's like my own voice is very far away." Later that night, after Geimer's sister overheard her talking to an ex-boyfriend about what had happened, Geimer's mother called the police.

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/sep/16/entertainment/la-et-jc-geimer-book-20130916

He claims he did not know she was underage. She looks underage to me...

underage.jpgunderage2.jpg


There were some photos of her with her shirt unbuttoned to her waist and another wearing a skirt, sitting on a table with her leg but I won't post those. Even from those, you can see the girl was not developed.

What is truly bizarre is that the photo on the cover of her book was taken by Roman Polanski when she was 13.

Gailey, now Samantha Geimer, revealed to the Guardian last year that she still occasionally emails the director, and that she felt he should be allowed to return to the US. Lasy year she published a memoir, The Girl, which explored the incident, the trial and its effect on her life.

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/jan/17/judge-roman-polanski-rape-case-questioned

Regardless of her age...sure sounds like out and out rape not statutory rape to me based on the woman's side of the story.

What I would like to know is what mother in her right mind sends a 13 year old girl off, unaccompanied with a man she has just met? What mother in her right mind would allow a young girl to pose for photos like the ones I mentionned. The mother should also have been charged for gross negligence.

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Definitely all of these women making accusations against Cosby couldn't be lying but some of these stories sound like casting couch scenarios than rape.

Bill Cosby raped me. Why did it take 30 years for people to believe my story?

Only when a male comedian called Cosby a rapist did the accusation take hold.

In 2004, when Andrea Constand filed a lawsuit against Bill Cosby for sexual assault, her lawyers asked me to testify. Cosby had drugged and raped me, too, I told them. The lawyers said I could testify anonymously as a Jane Doe, but I ardently rejected that idea. My name is not Jane Doe. My name is Barbara Bowman, and I wanted to tell my story in court. In the end, I didn’t have the opportunity to do that, because Cosby settled the suitfor an undisclosed amount of money.
Over the years, I’ve struggled to get people to take my story seriously.

I'm not buying her story either.

So last month, when reporter Lycia Naff contacted me for an interview for the Daily Mail, I gave her

a detailed account. I told her how Cosby won my trust as a 17-year-old aspiring actress in 1985, brainwashed me into viewing him as a father figure, and then assaulted me multiple times.

Stop right there...mutiple times. This is not a 9, 10, or 12 year old child. This is a 17 year old model.

In one case, I blacked out after having dinner and one glass of wine at his New York City brownstone, where he had offered to mentor me and discuss the entertainment industry. When I came to, I was in my panties and a man’s t-shirt, and Cosby was looming over me. I’m certain now that he drugged and raped me. But as a teenager, I tried to convince myself I had imagined it. I even tried to rationalize it: Bill Cosby was going to make me a star and this was part of the deal. The final incident was in Atlantic City, where we had traveled for an industry event. I was staying in a separate bedroom of Cosby’s hotel suite, but he pinned me down in his own bed while I screamed for help. I’ll never forget the clinking of his belt buckle as he struggled to pull his pants off. I furiously tried to wrestle from his grasp until he eventually gave up, angrily called me “a baby” and sent me home to Denver.

Back then, the incident was so horrifying that I had trouble admitting it to myself, let alone to others. But I first told my agent, who did nothing. (Cosby sometimes came to her office to interview people for “The Cosby Show” and other acting jobs.) A girlfriend took me to a lawyer, but he accused me of making the story up. Their dismissive responses crushed any hope I had of getting help; I was convinced no one would listen to me. That feeling of futility is what ultimately kept me from going to the police. I told friends what had happened, and although they sympathized with me, they were just as helpless to do anything about it. I was a teenager from Denver acting in McDonald’s commercials. He was Bill Cosby: consummate American dad Cliff Huxtable and the Jell-O spokesman. Eventually, I had to move on with my life and my career.
I didn’t stay entirely quiet, though: I’ve been telling my story publicly for nearly 10 years. When Constand brought her lawsuit, I found renewed confidence. I was determined to not be silent any more. In 2006, I was interviewed by Robert Huber for Philadelphia Magazine, and Alycia Lane for KYW-TV news in Philadelphia. A reporter wrote about my experience in the December 2006 issue of People Magazine. And last February, Katie Baker interviewed me for Newsweek. Bloggers and columnists wrote about that story for several months after it was published. Still, my complaint didn’t seem to take hold.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/11/13/bill-cosby-raped-me-why-did-it-take-30-years-for-people-to-believe-my-story/

She was 19 and staying in his suite. This went on for 2 years. This does not sound like rape to me.


This is another one who went back multiple times after being supposedly raped. Again not buying this one either. Sounds like she was a grown woman at the time. If you put your hand on the stove and it burns you, why do you keep putting it back there.

This one is from a woman who was a Playboy Bunny at the time.

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Not one of these would I call a rape...they went back over and over and over again. This was definitely a casting couch scenario.

These women have to take some responsibility for what happened.

I would say that if a young lady is over 16 or 16 and she has been sexually active,posing for naked photos, or in jobs like bunny, exotic dancer, etc. and she keeps going back to a man who has supposedly raped her, we are dealing with a casting couch to try and further their careers. When a man is perceived as being rich and powerful, there are MANY women who will to get ahead. They should not be crying rape afterwards.

If a man gives you booze, drugs you and rapes you why would you go back to his place over and over again and drink with him. This makes NO sense.

Now likely there are many other women who really were raped by him. It will be interesting to hear their stories. As for these three and the model who slept with over 1000 men.....Janice Dickerson