ernest smith jamaican hero

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Re: ernest smith jamaican hero

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...the bun bat-man songs far outnumber rape/female molestation songs </div></div>This is so revealing particularly since as I remember it all kinds of fuyah and brimstone was hurled upon the heads of those who called for the then convicted and unrepentant rapist Jah ObsCure to own up to his violent past.

You have also provided a deeper look into the minds of <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">Blu</span> and <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">unEarnesta Smith</span> and the possible reasons why they jumped up to defend the bottom-rapists......his victim was a girl.....ding ding ding no wonder!

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Re: ernest smith jamaican hero

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...the bun bat-man songs far outnumber rape/female molestation songs </div></div>This is so revealing particularly since as I remember it all kinds of fuyah and brimstone was hurled upon the heads of those who called for the then convicted and unrepentant rapist Jah ObsCure to own up to his violent past. </div></div>

Seet deh !

If he was accused of raping a man the same people would have been calling for him to be hung drawn and quartered.

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Re: ernest smith jamaican hero

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

You and the likes of Un-Earnesta Smith are nothing but dispicable bigots who twist and turn as the wind blows.
You like your (s)hero Earnesta bun fuyah on any one including Board Members who do not support your purile ranting against whatever is you cause célèbre you latch onto for the moment. You make no distinction whether or not the argument is in favour of the practice or just in favour of the practitioner(s) right to exist.

Now you are making exceptions because you (s)hero steps up to defend a self-confessed violent <span style="font-weight: bold">bottom-rapist</span>?
You are a very disgusting low-life. </div></div>


stapp eeeeth. yu knoo mii nah defend annee rumpist. iff ernest smith cousin did rape sumwan den de communitee tandards shood applie ann fiyah affii bunn. iff imm cousin wass innacent den imm deserved legal representation fii kleer imm name cah watt narmal parsan waan fii bee label as a homosexual. mii neva cawl wan board memba an homosexual unless de funnee parsan cum out aff de closet pon de board. mii cawl certain peeps homophiles cah dat wat dem ar

de distinction mii mekk iss wan a parsan bow dem funneee ann fiyah affii bunn cah mii nah defend annee form aff homosexualitee

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Re: ernest smith jamaican hero

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...the bun bat-man songs far outnumber rape/female molestation songs </div></div>This is so revealing particularly since as I remember it all kinds of fuyah and brimstone was hurled upon the heads of those who called for the then convicted and unrepentant rapist Jah ObsCure to own up to his violent past.

You have also provided a deeper look into the minds of <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">Blu</span> and <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">unEarnesta Smith</span> and the possible reasons why they jumped up to defend the bottom-rapists......his victim was a girl.....ding ding ding no wonder! </div></div>

yu knoo mii bunn fiyah pon jahcure cah imm add wan lang iistaree aff badness. mii didd qwestian y ja neva doo wan dna test fii bee sure dat jahcure wass guiltee cah eeyeewitness testimmoneee leave a latt fii bee desired

[Tuff Gong]

Re: ernest smith jamaican hero

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...de distinction mii mekk iss wan a parsan bow dem funneee ann fiyah affii bunn cah mii nah defend annee form aff homosexualitee </div></div>

In all your talk on this board you never made one distinction. Anyone who advised a word of caution you jumped up to condemn dem and called them all kinds of nasty names.

So now you and Earnesta is coming out of the closet to defend bottom-raping....not homosexuality but violent rape....<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">nasty</span>!

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
...... mii didd qwestian y ja neva doo wan dna test fii bee sure dat jahcure wass guiltee cah eeyeewitness testimmoneee leave a latt fii bee desired </div></div>

He appealed a thousand times and had the best defense money could buy! So this is just another way to change yu tune to fit the stage......<span style="font-weight: bold">Nasty</span>!

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">....iff imm cousin wass innacent den imm deserved legal representation fii kleer imm name....</div></div>

<span style="text-decoration: underline">His Cousin pled guilty!</span>

<span style="font-size: 17pt">Smith sings different buggery tune</span>
<span style="font-style: italic">Published: Tuesday | March 10, 2009</span>
<span style="font-style: italic">Carl Gilchrist, Gleaner Writer</span>

<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">MEMBER OF Parliament Ernie Smith</span> might just have become the butt of a new round of jokes. Despite his impassioned plea in February for tougher penalties for buggery convicts, the South West St Ann representative, who is also an attorney-at-law, was in court last week strongly defending a man charged with - you guessed it - buggery.

<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">So strident was Smith in defence of his client in the St Ann Circuit Court that although pleading guilty to the charge, the accused was able to walk away with just a suspended sentence.</span>

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Re: ernest smith jamaican hero

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[

<span style="text-decoration: underline">I guess these Blu little helpers:</span>

<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">Alleged 'gay' killers charged</span>

Two men charged with the murder of a man whose decomposing body was recently found in Havendale, St.Andrew, are accused of killing the man because it was believed that he was gay, the Corporate Area Resident Magistrate's Court heard.

Charged with murder are Dwayne Gordon, 23, and Andy Williams.

The allegations are that Gordon was being interviewed by the police as a possible witness to the crime. His statement however turned into a confession. He reportedly told the police that on February 23, he and Williams stabbed Dane Harris several times.

<span style="text-decoration: underline">Sexual advances </span>

It is alleged that Harris made sexual advances towards Gordon, who told Williams about it. The two reportedly devised a plan where Gordon would agree to meet with Harris, so they both could 'beat' him.

The court was told, however, that on February 23, when all three met up, Williams reportedly began stabbing Harris. Gordon reportedly told the police that he took the knife from Williams and also inflicted injuries.

The body of the deceased was found on February 26. Gordon told the court that Williams was just a contractor he had met through a relative. When asked if the statement he gave to the police was false, he told the court that the police told him to sign a document and then he saw them writing.

The matter is to be mentioned again on April 3.


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iff man brave enuff fi mekk pass att wan narmal yaawd man, den mii affii defend de narmal man rite

evan poas wan aff evan tredd wey man goo fii wan intarview ann bootteee man trii fii rape imm ann imm cawl de police. too badd imm neva shout itt out soo de communitee cood enforce dem tandards

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Re: ernest smith jamaican hero

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
...... mii didd qwestian y ja neva doo wan dna test fii bee sure dat jahcure wass guiltee cah eeyeewitness testimmoneee leave a latt fii bee desired </div></div>

He appealed a thousand times and had the best defense money could buy! So this is just another way to change yu tune to fit the stage......<span style="font-weight: bold">Nasty</span>! </div></div>

y ja neva doo wan dna test. mii nah change mii tune

itt like de peta queen verdict. babylon sey dem missplace videos ann knives butt de funnee man wey allegedlee kill peta queen dem find guiltee aff manslaughter. sarree mii qwestian weddar dat verdict fair too cah dem needed fe test dem missinn knives fe dna

[Tuff Gong]

Re: ernest smith jamaican hero

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[

<span style="text-decoration: underline">I guess these Blu little helpers:</span>

<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">Alleged 'gay' killers charged</span>

Two men charged with the murder of a man whose decomposing body was recently found in Havendale, St.Andrew, are accused of killing the man because it was believed that he was gay, the Corporate Area Resident Magistrate's Court heard.

Charged with murder are Dwayne Gordon, 23, and Andy Williams.

The allegations are that Gordon was being interviewed by the police as a possible witness to the crime. His statement however turned into a confession. He reportedly told the police that on February 23, he and Williams stabbed Dane Harris several times.

<span style="text-decoration: underline">Sexual advances </span>

It is alleged that Harris made sexual advances towards Gordon, who told Williams about it. The two reportedly devised a plan where Gordon would agree to meet with Harris, so they both could 'beat' him.

The court was told, however, that on February 23, when all three met up, Williams reportedly began stabbing Harris. Gordon reportedly told the police that he took the knife from Williams and also inflicted injuries.

The body of the deceased was found on February 26. Gordon told the court that Williams was just a contractor he had met through a relative. When asked if the statement he gave to the police was false, he told the court that the police told him to sign a document and then he saw them writing.

The matter is to be mentioned again on April 3.


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iff man brave enuff fi mekk pass att wan narmal yaawd man, den mii affii defend de narmal man rite...</div></div>

Here again. You are saying one thing when it comes to Jah obsCure and Eranesta's Cousin and advocating another since the dead person was suspected to be Gay.

If this so-called Normal Person was so outraged why didn't he kill the abnormal man on the spot?
What about the abnormal man's right to be innocent until proven guilty?

You are talking massive amounts of <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">B.S.</span>

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

iff man brave enuff fi mekk pass att wan narmal yaawd man, den mii affii defend de narmal man rite...</div></div>

Here again. You are saying one thing when it comes to Jah obsCure and Eranesta's Cousin and advocating another since the dead person was suspected to be Gay.

If this so-called Normal Person was so outraged why didn't he kill the abnormal man on the spot?
What about the abnormal man's right to be innocent until proven guilty?

You are talking massive amounts of <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">B.S.</span> </div></div>

mii guess funnee peeps aggoo sey yess dem made de pass butt dem wass wrang fii doo dat. yuh reallee a trii fii tell mii bout abnarmal peeps rite too bee innacent till proven guiltee. yu see watt appen too dem peta queen tapes ann eveedences wey missinn. yu neva see mii sey dem shood ave freed de funnee man until dem find ann release awl de eeveedence cah mii defended de funnee man rite to a fare trial

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Humano</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">soo yu seyinn de buggeree law iss legal becah itt ave natt been declared unconstitutional. fii sintinn fee bee unconstitual de court affi rule itt unconstitunional. soo yu argument iss dat de buggeree law iss legal

fii yu typa legal reasoninn iss funee. yu sey de man legal reasoninn iss flaw cah imm supportinn de law dat iss constituional. cum widd bettar legal reasoninn ar bettar yet poas de rite fe free association laws soo mii can mekk sense outta yu nansense legal reasoninn </div></div>

OK, either you are slow, or you lack basic comprehension skills. I want you to read all I have posted before, then re-read what you just wrote, and see if what you wrote makes sense relative to what I wrote, or if it reflects an understanding on your part as to what I wrote. Do you think you can do that? Oh, forget it. You must have taken a while to read through what I posted, yet mananged to get it wrong. Better yet, have someone read it to you. Seeing that you pride yourself on your honesty, I refuse to believe that you would deliberately distort my words to score cheap points. So it has to be your comprehension skills, or the lack thereof.

Let's try this again. My argument is simple. The &quot;buggery&quot; law is unconstitutional because it violates a citizen's right to freedom of association as guaranteed by the Jamaican Constitution, which states: &quot;<span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-weight: bold">No person shall be hindered in the enjoyment of his freedom of peaceful assembly and <span style="text-decoration: underline">association</span>, that is to say, his right peacefully to assemble freely and <span style="text-decoration: underline">associate with other persons </span>and in particular to form or belong to trade unions or other associations for the protection of his interests</span></span>.&quot; [Section 23 (1) Jamaica Constitution]. The Constitution is the supreme legal framework within which all laws are made. If a law violates a constitutional right, it is unconstitutional, simple as that. Even duly created acts of parliament, believe it or not, can be unconstitutional.

Now you may ask: if the law in question is unconstitutional, then how is it still on the books? Two reasons: (1) Politicians over the years have been literally afraid to do anything about that law. I chuckled when I saw the PNP issuing a statement reprimanding Earnest Smith when they did nothing to overturn the law in question. Granted, it enjoys popular support, but even in enlightened societies, including democracies, popular sentiment is not sufficient as a basis for enacting or upholding laws. In Jamaica, taking an intelligent viewpoint on the issue will call into question one's sexual orientation.

(2) Jamaica has an independent judiciary, yet, like most judiaries in parliamentary democracies, it seems to have difficulty striking down laws/acts of parliament, choosing instead to defer to the legislative branch. It doesn't usually assert it powers of judicial review - which is to determine the constutionality of laws/acts of parliament. Despite the fact that the American system of government is different and comparisons are not always appropriate, one thing that both the Anglo and the American system have in common is independence, which carries with it the power of judicial review. And the American judiciary has used this power a number of times to invalidate state and federal statutes as well as executive orders. In Jamaica, the judiciary almost refuses to do so. But they may become more assertive in future, as some organization which can show standing challenges that law in the courts. BTW, it is recognition that such laws violate the right of freedom of association why other countries with parliamentary democracies abolished the law - the UK, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc.

The refusal of an independent judiciary to assert its rightful powers (including judicial review) is troubling on a many levels, notably among which is this: parliament is about politics and the sways of popular sentitments and opinion. The judiciary ought to rise above that and to be the true guardian of the constitution. That's why there is a judiciary.


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de argument dat jamaican hero ernest smith wass mekkinn iss dat funnee peeps right fe association iss basicallee illegal cah itt bout criminal conspiracee fee brukk de buggerree law. soo dat y fii give funnee peeps dat leeway iss tacitt aproval fii commit buggerreeee

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">de argument dat jamaican hero ernest smith wass mekkinn iss dat funnee peeps right fe association iss basicallee illegal cah itt bout criminal conspiracee fee brukk de buggerree law. soo dat y fii give funnee peeps dat leeway iss tacitt aproval fii commit buggerreeee </div></div>

Again to make you and Earnesta Smith's Argument work both of you have to come of with equations such as:

Gay=Buggery
Gay=Violence
Violent Cops=Gay

Such a sad construction!

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">mii guess funnee peeps aggoo sey yess dem made de pass butt dem wass wrang fii doo dat.</div></div>

Do you have any proof that the deceased was funny?
Do you have any proof that the alleged funny-man made a pass on the so-called normal-man?
If that was what transpired why didn't the normal-man kill him on the spot?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">..yuh reallee a trii fii tell mii bout abnarmal peeps rite too bee innacent till proven guiltee.</div></div>

Would you consider Earnesta Smith's Cousin abnormal?
Didn't you just exposed the the same argument in relation to to Earnesta Smith's Cousin?

Again I find it extremely hilarious the parallel world that you and Earneta Smith occupy, where you can pontificate with one face and be a Devil with another all one at the same time.