Mugabe asking for trouble

[Derek]

Robert Mugabe said on Saturday land seizures from white farmers would continue and <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 14pt">vowed to press ahead with plans for locals to take majority stakes in foreign companies operating in Zimbabwe.</span></span>

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/reuters/2009...E-1-TV-PIX.html

<span style="font-style: italic">Do I see an assassination on the horizon?</span>

[Boricua_papi]

Re: Mugabe asking for trouble

I see overthrow before I see assassination. The people of Zimbabwe have been through too much under his foolishness already.

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Mugabe asking for trouble

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: B_P</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I see overthrow before I see assassination. The people of Zimbabwe have been through too much under his foolishness already. </div></div> There forbears lived through much worse,from those who are cow complaining.
Funny but according to the history of that country,they really enjoying much greater freedoms than during white rule.

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Mugabe asking for trouble

Not even an asssination will turn back the people's right to their land. This is not the days of old, the wild, wild,west.
When they put a price on the heads of Indians and take their property, under similar circumstances. The indigenious Zimbabweans will produce their own leaders to eventually take up the fight for their lands.

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Mugabe asking for trouble

<span style="font-weight: bold">Land reform in Zimbabwe began after the signing of the Lancaster House Agreement in 1979 in an effort to more equitably distribute land between the historically disenfranchised blacks and the minority-whites who ruled Zimbabwe from 1923 to 1979.</span> The government's land distribution is perhaps the most crucial and the most bitterly contested political issue today.




[edit] Background
The European farmer population first came to Southern Rhodesia in the 1890s.[1] In 1918, the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council in London ruled that the land of Southern Rhodesia was owned by the Crown and not by the British South Africa Company.

<span style="font-weight: bold">After self-government was granted in 1923, the Southern Rhodesia House of Assembly created a legal framework for the allocation of land. The Land Apportionment Act of 1930 was the basis for subsequent laws and continued in effect until independence. The Land Apportionment Act divided the land of the colony into three areas: areas where only whites could own property; areas which were held in trust for indigenous peoples on a collective basis (called &quot;tribal trust lands&quot; by a 1965 statute and &quot;communal areas&quot; by a 1981 statute);[citation needed] and areas where only Shona or Ndebele could own property. One practical effect of the apportionment was that some Shona and Ndbele families were ejected from land they had held for generations.</span>

The lack of individual title in areas designated as tribal trust lands hindered the development of the land through soil improvement, grading, irrigation, drainage, and roads. Few blacks had access to the capital funds necessary to buy large plots of land designated for sale to them in the Native Purchase areas. But many Europeans were able to buy and develop large areas of farmland. The designated European areas tended to be in the uplands where the rainfall was higher and soil thinner. These areas were optimal for large scale, mechanised farming. Government policy favored the more productive European commercial farms through training support, direct grants, loan guarantee schemes, and funding for agricultural research. Rural road building programs also favored European farming areas. In the 1950s, the government of Garfield Todd made some attempts to address problems of land tenure and development in the tribal trust lands.

There was therefore a marked racial imbalance in the ownership and distribution of land.<span style="font-weight: bold"> Zimbabwean whites, although making up less than 1% of the population, owned more than 70% of the arable land, including most of the best land.</span> Communal lands, with no property rights, were characterised by slash and burn agriculture, resulting in a tragedy of the commons. Since the implementation of the most recent land reforms, only 300 of 4,500 commercial farmers remain on farms. The eviction of the mostly white farmers has been partly blamed by aid agencies and critics for Zimbabwe's worst famine in living memory, which left about two thirds of the 11.6 million people facing severe food shortage.* [2]


Lancaster House Agreement
Main article: Lancaster House Agreement
After the Lancaster House Agreement paved the way for democracy, elections were won by Robert Mugabe in late February 1980. The three-month long Lancaster House conference nearly failed over land issues. However, the British agreed to fund reform on a willing buyer, willing seller principle, where farmers who were unwilling to stay in Zimbabwe would be bought out by funds provided by the British through the Zimbabwean government.

[Derek]

Re: Mugabe asking for trouble

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not even an asssination will turn back the people's right to their land. </div></div>

It's not the people's land that the plotters will be concerned with. What they don't want is Mugabe taking over foreign businesses.
The multinationals get angry when you mess with their money.

[Dr.Dudd]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not even an asssination will turn back the people's right to their land. </div></div>

It's not the people's land that the plotters will be concerned with. What they don't want is Mugabe taking over foreign businesses.
The multinationals get angry when you mess with their money. </div></div>Tell that to idiots.
tell me something, if those businesses were in the hands of Chinese,would they as agressive against him??
Yeh right multinationals.
So how come those multinationals have so much support from the black elites??

Now you tell me who is foolong who.that

[Derek]

Re: Mugabe asking for trouble

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not even an asssination will turn back the people's right to their land. </div></div>

It's not the people's land that the plotters will be concerned with. What they don't want is Mugabe taking over foreign businesses.
The multinationals get angry when you mess with their money. </div></div>Tell that to idiots.
tell me something, if those businesses were in the hands of Chinese,would they as agressive against him??
Yeh right multinationals.
So how come those multinationals have so much support from the black elites??

Now you tell me who is foolong who.that </div></div>
Are you referring to the black elites of the world, or of Zimbabwe?
The comfortable, Mugabe-supporting black elites of Zimbabwe are not representative of the people of Zimbabwe.

[Dr.Dudd]

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I am refering to the black elite of the world, otherwise known as the educated blacks.
Those in Zimbabwe, does not have the base. Since theyu were not allowed to attend college until after Mugabwe took oggice and the country got independence.

They still need a lot more prepration,and support from the international educated blacks.

[Emperah]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: B_P</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I see overthrow before I see assassination. The people of Zimbabwe have been through too much under his foolishness already. </div></div>

the plan itself isn't foolishness.
I sayhe's right fi tek back nuff a de land, and as for companies living off and high in Zimbabwe and giving little to nothing back to the ppl <span style="font-size: 23pt">MORE FIYAH</span>

since when is right for GM to build hummers there and pay the ppl $13/ month? Many other companies do this kinda phriggry out deh tuh and need to be dealt wid. Even doe it look JAH a deal wid dem as we speak.

[Derek]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dahJahPawtTwo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: B_P</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I see overthrow before I see assassination. The people of Zimbabwe have been through too much under his foolishness already. </div></div>

the plan itself isn't foolishness.
I sayhe's right fi tek back nuff a de land, and as for companies living off and high in Zimbabwe and giving little to nothing back to the ppl <span style="font-size: 23pt">MORE FIYAH</span>

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 14pt">since when is right for GM to build hummers there and pay the ppl $13/ month? Many other companies do this kinda phriggry out deh tuh and need to be dealt wid. </span></span>Even doe it look JAH a deal wid dem as we speak. </div></div>