fiyah pon marley mzungu faddar

[blugiant]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nunya</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is aclose up of Bob's father. Man he realy wasn't very attractive. The Black genes really helped Bob out: </div></div>

His mother was no prize either </div></div>

im maddar look good soo stapp. iff yu doan beeleeve look upp sum pitchas wen shii wass younga

[blugiant]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
what right you have to be angrier at his father than he is?
you don't overstand rastafari...
even bob no longer with us in physical essence---
bob already did overstand that was a battle not worth fighting...him probably seh give thanks for the sperm of life and decided now that he had that life he would use it to do something positive on earth--- which i think he did, even if you have him up as a mzungu markting creation;
i hail him as a rasta prophet...why should rasta harbor bitterness toward the dead?
rasta deal wid life in this time, seen?! </div></div>

y yu tink marley leff imm wifee fii goo chase mzungu oomen wen imm saw wat de same ting didd too im maddar. unresolved issue soo repeated imm faddar mistake. wat mii bunninn fiyah pon iss de mzungu overseer wey used blakk oomen ann leff dem fii raised mixxed race yuths widd likkle ar no support. yu kno rasta iss bout studyinn de histaree soo yu caan goo farwaad pasitivelee. itt natt bout bitterness but ovatandinn y oww de past affect de fuuture

yess marley wass a mzungu markittinn creation dat commercialized rasta

[Tropicana]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">y yu tink marley leff imm wifee fii goo chase mzungu oomen wen imm saw wat de same ting didd too im maddar. unresolved issue soo repeated imm faddar mistake. </div></div>

Exactly!

[julie*mango]

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any Bob marley fans can answer me this???

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Skelly</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wonder if his song &quot;I'm hurting Inside&quot; was written based on his feelings for his father..

when I was just a little child
happiness was there a while
and from me
it slipped one day
happiness
come back I say...

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[britisha]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
what right you have to be angrier at his father than he is?
you don't overstand rastafari...
even bob no longer with us in physical essence---
bob already did overstand that was a battle not worth fighting...him probably seh give thanks for the sperm of life and decided now that he had that life he would use it to do something positive on earth--- which i think he did, even if you have him up as a mzungu markting creation;
i hail him as a rasta prophet...why should rasta harbor bitterness toward the dead?
rasta deal wid life in this time, seen?! </div></div>

y yu tink marley leff imm wifee fii goo chase mzungu oomen wen imm saw wat de same ting didd too im maddar. unresolved issue soo repeated imm faddar mistake. wat mii bunninn fiyah pon iss de mzungu overseer wey used blakk oomen ann leff dem fii raised mixxed race yuths widd likkle ar no support. yu kno rasta iss bout studyinn de histaree soo yu caan goo farwaad pasitivelee. itt natt bout bitterness but ovatandinn y oww de past affect de fuuture

yess marley wass a mzungu markittinn creation dat commercialized rasta </div></div>

Y yuh think seh a Bob chase white women and not the other way around? Bob had so much going for him that some of these women would throw their anatomies at him for him to use any which way...and you know some men aren't going to resist. I met a groupie years ago on the plane [Ja sistah] who told me that when Bob played California, the scores of women of all persuasions who would hang out at<span style="font-weight: bold"> the </span>hotel, hoping that Bob would even dignify them to even look in their direction...so go figgah!!

Yes, obviously, Bob loved many skirt tails, but some a dem run him dung, not the other way around...why buy the cow when him cuddah drink free milk?

[Tropicana]

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I agree Britisha. Groupies will always run down men who are rich and famous. A man can say no though.

I do think that he was traumatized by his abandonment by his White father and that is why he found the attention of these women hard to resist.

Let's face it, in Jamaica people don't look kindly on people from Trench Town. He went from being disregarded to being showered with attention. This also made it hard for him to resist the attention. All of a sudden he was a &quot;somebody&quot;. I think that this was his way of seeking vaildation.

[Bandana]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i actually appreci-love the fact that bob never talked about his father...a little thing called class...
sort of like 'if yu nuh have nukkn good fi seh don't seh nukkn';
these people who go on the media &amp; dis their parents (no matter how bad they were) are funny...they forget that if their parent didn't do the act they themselves would not be here... </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
what good would it have done?
the man is dead &amp; gone so why should he have been on a campaign of bitterness &amp; revenge even against a dead man?
if you check marley interviews when asked of it he sometimes threw a word or two...like 'jah is my father' or something to that effect;
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">how you know wha give or don't give the man cancer?
and what right you have to be angrier at his father than he is?
you don't overstand rastafari...
even bob no longer with us in physical essence---
bob already did overstand that was a battle not worth fighting...him probably seh give thanks for the sperm of life and decided now that he had that life he would use it to do something positive on earth--- which i think he did, even if you have him up as a mzungu markting creation;
i hail him as a rasta prophet...why should rasta harbor bitterness toward the dead?
rasta deal wid life in this time, seen?!</div></div>

<span style="font-weight: bold">jah yout</span>


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<span style="font-size: 11pt"><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'">In 1973, Neville Willoughby interviewed Robert Nesta Marley, better known as Bob Marley...


<span style="font-weight: bold">Neville</span> But listen, you know a lot of people have a feeling that, a lot of guys who claim to be Rastas, are really, as one song says, rascals.

<span style="font-weight: bold">Bob</span> <span style="font-style: italic">Many shall be called, but only a few chosen. And there shall be sheep and wolf in sheep clothing! But I&amp;I couldn't watch that, this day. Because I&amp;I have to live Rasta and know Rasta. <span style="font-weight: bold">I noh come fi judge a man. Jah seh leave all judgemant onto him. Soh all people who see a man out deh and seh &quot;how him a gwaan like seh him a rasta&quot;. Who is dem fi seh how him a gwaan so. When God seh leave all judgemant onto him</span></span>.


......


<span style="font-weight: bold">Neville</span> Am I right in assuming that Rastas don't believe in violence, at all?

<span style="font-weight: bold">Bob</span> <span style="font-style: italic">Rasta don't believe in violence man! Rasta don't believe, Rasta know. Yuh see, is when yuh believe, is that mash yuh up. Yuh must know what yuh know. Earth is earth, within 2000 years, now is 1973. Like I seh again. I naah do dis ting fi no money business. Dis ting, is Jah come inna I heart and mek it move, that I fi goh inna England goh seh these things again. Or say these things in America, or Australia. I man haffi goh, because I personnally is a servant of H.I.M. Not doing noh hard work, just doing wah Jah seh I fi do. And thru him gi I the power fi play music and him gi I the Inspiration fi seh these things, and mek the people, who him work through see these things. <span style="font-weight: bold">Because I know seh Jah inna every life. Now some people ah devil and some people ah angel. Dig! Jah seh leave all judgemant onto him.</span> Dig! Soh yuh know, is certain, is plenty tings, ah man haffi keep to himself and try source it out fi himself. Because yuh can seh tings. At the time yuh say it, it noh seh right, and maybe not. Yuh know wah ah mean. Because these things are things Jah teach yuh everyday, and sometime yuh haffi learn. Yuh haffi know wah him seh. Yuh haffi source it out. </span>
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whole interview here






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[Bandana]

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[Bandana]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-size: 11pt">I was pleased to see Jamaican scholar Garth White validating a point I made in my 1999 book On Racial Frontiers about the relationship between Bob’s racial &quot;ambiguity,&quot; and Selassie as Bob’s &quot;perfect father.&quot; This is an issue which aroused controversy among some of those accustomed to thinking of Bob as a &quot;black culture hero,&quot; and who had read my chapter &quot;Bob Marley’s Zion: A Transracial ‘Blackman Redemption’,&quot; or heard me presenting material from this book in public lectures and radio interviews. But White says explicitly that &quot;HIM became a father figure for Bob in a personal sense…Bob felt a personal affinity for Selassie based on rejection by his father.&quot;

One of my few disagreements with Marre concerns the conflicts Bob experienced as a youth as a result of being &quot;brown,&quot; or of mixed &quot;race.&quot; Marre argues that he encountered prejudice only from light-skinned Jamaicans, while Rita Marley and numerous other witnesses make it very clear that Bob sometimes faced severe prejudice from &quot;black&quot; Jamaicans as a result of being the son of a &quot;white&quot; man. Perhaps Marre’s position is a reflection of the all-too-common &quot;white liberal guilt complex.&quot; Many who want to be on the &quot;right side&quot; of the struggle for equal rights and justice are compelled (by largely unconscious forces), to understand the issue of racism in black-and-white terms. But Bob’s life dramatically illustrated the truth that racialism is a problem perpetuated by people of all colors, which is of course why Bob and most of the Rastas made the concept of &quot;One Blood&quot; a cornerstone of their philosophy.</span></div></div>
source

[britisha]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I agree Britisha. Groupies will always run down men who are rich and famous. A man can say no though.

I do think that he was traumatized by his abandonment by his White father and that is why he found the attention of these women hard to resist.

Let's face it, in Jamaica people don't look kindly on people from Trench Town. He went from being disregarded to being showered with attention. This also made it hard for him to resist the attention. All of a sudden he was a &quot;somebody&quot;. I think that this was his way of seeking vaildation. </div></div>

You might have a point Tropi, but for all those who might not know, in Bob's time, Trench Town didn't carry the stigma that is attached to it NOW; it was non-existent; just like West Kingston, Denham Town, even Jones Town.

I personally wouldn't say he was &quot;disregarded&quot; although he wasn't hailed as any popular icon then. [in mainstream society.] I agree with you though that many of those women in the society, black and white wouldn't have given him even the time of day, had they not been seduced by his money and fame, looks and JEWELS...ah juss soh mi seet.