It is oficial, CARICOM PASSPORT

[Tropicana]

Re: It is oficial, CARICOM PASSPORT

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neutral</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Interesting,but what are the advantages,what about those of us who live in the diaspora who doesnt travel on a jamaican passport anymore ,and have long discarded it as useless. </div></div>

I'll tell you when it's useful. If you're travelling to the Middle East, India or Pakisatn, hotels always ask for photocopies of your passport when you check in. They started to do that in Canada last year. Trust me, from now on, I will be giving them my Jamaican rather Caricom passport to copy. The first thing those Mumbai terroists did was go to the front desk and pull out the folder with the passport photocopies. They then started banging on the doors of anyone with a USA, UK, Canadian, or Australian passport. Same thing happens when there are hijackings. If you have a Jamaican passport, they are unlikely to bother you. When you're overseas just let people know you're Jamaican and they smile and say oh &quot;reggae music&quot; &quot;Bob Marley&quot;. Aftah dat, everyting cook and curry.

[britisha]

Re: It is oficial, CARICOM PASSPORT

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sardine</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Guess I'll have to go ahead and get that blue one then, cause I sure don't want a CARICOM passport.

Do you know if the countries in the European Union have one EU passport or do they still use their individual country's?

<span style="font-style: italic">Trying to strengthen my case in opposition.</span>
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Yuh bad yah know...bettah yet, haven't you heard that all nations are gearing up to form one big GLOBAL empire or sinting like dat, one currency, one dis and one dat...I guess all our information will be available at the swish of a scanner...<span style="font-style: italic">and I guess all the smaller nations that don't comply.. .</span>


seriously, nothing is wrong with Caricom at this stage of the game, for in unity of these small islands, there is strength..but Gaawd know, mi waant tuh kip mi likkle Juhmaican identity..

[Fyah]

Re: It is oficial, CARICOM PASSPORT

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neutral</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sardine</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Guess I'll have to go ahead and get that blue one then, cause I sure don't want a CARICOM passport.

Do you know if the countries in the European Union have one EU passport or do they still use their individual country's?

<span style="font-style: italic">Trying to strengthen my case in opposition.</span>
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Here in the EU we use our country`s individual passport,the only thing thats changed is the currency,except for the UK which has so far refused to give up the pound for the euro. </div></div>

OK. Thanks Neutral.

Interesting point on the currency. I think that should have been the focus for change across CARICOM instead of the passport. I might have to do some serious reading on this, where I hope I will understand the benefits of changing the passport instead.

[Tropicana]

Re: It is oficial, CARICOM PASSPORT

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: britisha</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The PDF is supposed to have a table with the Caricom countries and the dates on which they converted over to Caricom passports. </div></div>

I didn't know that, for all this is news to me as well...in fact there will be some meeting or the other this week in NY [call the Embassy for locale] to answer questions...I am still reeling over the matter as well, soh ackshally this thread was done in the hopes of anyone having any light whatsoever to shed on the matter. </div></div>

All I know is what that official told me last year. He was travelling on a diplomatic passport. He is from one of the other islands but he married a Jamaican and he is naturalized Jamaican. He showed me his diplomatic passport and it said Caricom. He told me that some of the other states were using Caricom passports and Jamaica would be doing it soon. That was January last year. Actually, I believe even at that time he told me that Jamaicans could have a Caricom passport. He did say that eventually, the Jamaican passport would be replaced though with one from Caricom.

[neutral]

Re: It is oficial, CARICOM PASSPORT

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neutral</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Interesting,but what are the advantages,what about those of us who live in the diaspora who doesnt travel on a jamaican passport anymore ,and have long discarded it as useless. </div></div>

I'll tell you when it's useful. If you're travelling to the Middle East, India or Pakisatn, hotels always ask for photocopies of your passport when you check in. They started to do that in Canada last year. Trust me, from now on, I will be giving them my Jamaican rather Caricom passport to copy. The first thing those Mumbai terroists did was go to the front desk and pull out the folder with the passport photocopies. They then started banging on the doors of anyone with a USA, UK, Canadian, or Australian passport. Same thing happens when there are hijackings. If you have a Jamaican passport, they are unlikely to bother you. When you're overseas just let people know you're Jamaican and they smile and say oh &quot;reggae music&quot; &quot;Bob Marley&quot;. Aftah dat, everyting cook and curry. </div></div>

Very interesting angle tropi`,and something I`ve never thought of before.
however,On the flip side I`ve seen how people are treated at jamaican airports if you carry a jamaican passport,you are nothing but dirt,it seems you only get respect if you produce any passport other than jamaican,...at montegobay airport they`ve even got white british guys searching suitcases,and your treatment can depend on what colour your passport is.

[Fyah]

Re: It is oficial, CARICOM PASSPORT

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neutral</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Interesting,but what are the advantages,what about those of us who live in the diaspora who doesnt travel on a jamaican passport anymore ,and have long discarded it as useless. </div></div>

I'll tell you when it's useful. If you're travelling to the Middle East, India or Pakisatn, hotels always ask for photocopies of your passport when you check in. They started to do that in Canada last year. Trust me, from now on, I will be giving them my Jamaican rather Caricom passport to copy. The first thing those Mumbai terroists did was go to the front desk and pull out the folder with the passport photocopies. They then started banging on the doors of anyone with a USA, UK, Canadian, or Australian passport. Same thing happens when there are hijackings. If you have a Jamaican passport, they are unlikely to bother you. When you're overseas just let people know you're Jamaican and they smile and say oh &quot;reggae music&quot; &quot;Bob Marley&quot;. Aftah dat, everyting cook and curry. </div></div>


That would be funny if they pull the folder with the CARICOM passport copy, bang on the door and blow people away, just because they think we were just trying to hide from them.

Similarly, pulling out a CARICOM passport during a hijacking would just make them shoot, out of frustration.

That is why I absolutely do not want to give mine up.

[britisha]

Re: It is oficial, CARICOM PASSPORT

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neutral</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Interesting,but what are the advantages,what about those of us who live in the diaspora who doesnt travel on a jamaican passport anymore ,and have long discarded it as useless. </div></div>

I'll tell you when it's useful. If you're travelling to the Middle East, India or Pakisatn, hotels always ask for photocopies of your passport when you check in. They started to do that in Canada last year. Trust me, from now on, I will be giving them my Jamaican rather Caricom passport to copy. The first thing those Mumbai terroists did was go to the front desk and pull out the folder with the passport photocopies. They then started banging on the doors of anyone with a USA, UK, Canadian, or Australian passport. Same thing happens when there are hijackings. If you have a Jamaican passport, they are unlikely to bother you. When you're overseas just let people know you're Jamaican and they smile and say oh &quot;reggae music&quot; &quot;Bob Marley&quot;. Aftah dat, everyting cook and curry. </div></div>

So true Tropi...Neutral, if you want a Jamaican passport, thien this is what you will get, but you don't have to apply if you don't need a &quot;Jamaican&quot; passport anymore...

when I was in <span style="font-weight: bold">BLACK</span> Africa Tropi, that Jamaican passport came in very handy, and make &quot;don't leave home without it&quot; truth.

Funny enough, they were all asking about Bob Marley.

[neutral]

Re: It is oficial, CARICOM PASSPORT

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: britisha</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The PDF is supposed to have a table with the Caricom countries and the dates on which they converted over to Caricom passports. </div></div>

I didn't know that, for all this is news to me as well...in fact there will be some meeting or the other this week in NY [call the Embassy for locale] to answer questions...I am still reeling over the matter as well, soh ackshally this thread was done in the hopes of anyone having any light whatsoever to shed on the matter. </div></div>

All I know is what that official told me last year. He was travelling on a diplomatic passport. He is from one of the other islands but he married a Jamaican and he is naturalized Jamaican. He showed me his diplomatic passport and it said Caricom. He told me that some of the other states were using Caricom passports and Jamaica would be doing it soon. That was January last year. Actually, I believe even at that time he told me that Jamaicans could have a Caricom passport. He did say that eventually, the Jamaican passport would be replaced though with one from Caricom. </div></div>

YOu know what I think tropi`,..I think that whatever the changes in passport they will still insist on some kind of distinguishing clause to differentiate jamaicans from other caricom nationals,......mark my words.

[Tropicana]

Re: It is oficial, CARICOM PASSPORT

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neutral</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neutral</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Interesting,but what are the advantages,what about those of us who live in the diaspora who doesnt travel on a jamaican passport anymore ,and have long discarded it as useless. </div></div>

I'll tell you when it's useful. If you're travelling to the Middle East, India or Pakisatn, hotels always ask for photocopies of your passport when you check in. They started to do that in Canada last year. Trust me, from now on, I will be giving them my Jamaican rather Caricom passport to copy. The first thing those Mumbai terroists did was go to the front desk and pull out the folder with the passport photocopies. They then started banging on the doors of anyone with a USA, UK, Canadian, or Australian passport. Same thing happens when there are hijackings. If you have a Jamaican passport, they are unlikely to bother you. When you're overseas just let people know you're Jamaican and they smile and say oh &quot;reggae music&quot; &quot;Bob Marley&quot;. Aftah dat, everyting cook and curry. </div></div>

Very interesting angle tropi`,and something I`ve never thought of before.
however,On the flip side I`ve seen how people are treated at jamaican airports if you carry a jamaican passport,you are nothing but dirt,it seems you only get respect if you produce any passport other than jamaican,...at montegobay airport they`ve even got white british guys searching suitcases,and your treatment can depend on what colour your passport is. </div></div>

For the last couple of years though, if you enter Jamaica and you DON'T use a Jamaican passport, your foreign passport is stamped like a tourist, they give you 6 months and say you can't work while you there. Last time I was there, an immigration officer explained that to me before he tried to pick me up. Yup he asked me out. He even slipped a business card into my passport and told me to call him. I didn't.

I was travelling with my Mom and she couldn't understand WHAT was taking him so long. She was VEX because of the long wait. I wonder how many times a day he pulls that one and what his success rate is.

[Fyah]

Re: It is oficial, CARICOM PASSPORT

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: britisha</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neutral</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Interesting,but what are the advantages,what about those of us who live in the diaspora who doesnt travel on a jamaican passport anymore ,and have long discarded it as useless. </div></div>

I'll tell you when it's useful. If you're travelling to the Middle East, India or Pakisatn, hotels always ask for photocopies of your passport when you check in. They started to do that in Canada last year. Trust me, from now on, I will be giving them my Jamaican rather Caricom passport to copy. The first thing those Mumbai terroists did was go to the front desk and pull out the folder with the passport photocopies. They then started banging on the doors of anyone with a USA, UK, Canadian, or Australian passport. Same thing happens when there are hijackings. If you have a Jamaican passport, they are unlikely to bother you. When you're overseas just let people know you're Jamaican and they smile and say oh &quot;reggae music&quot; &quot;Bob Marley&quot;. Aftah dat, everyting cook and curry. </div></div>

So true Tropi...Neutral, if you want a Jamaican passport, thien this is what you will get, but you don't have to apply if you don't need a &quot;Jamaican&quot; passport anymore...

when I was in <span style="font-weight: bold">BLACK</span> Africa Tropi, <span style="font-weight: bold">that Jamaican passport came in very handy, and make &quot;don't leave home without it&quot; truth.</span>

Funny enough, they were all asking about Bob Marley. </div></div>

Now, with a CARICOM passport, how will they tell the difference?

[Tropicana]

Re: It is oficial, CARICOM PASSPORT

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neutral</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

YOu know what I think tropi`,..I think that whatever the changes in passport they will still insist on some kind of distinguishing clause to differentiate jamaicans from other caricom nationals,......mark my words. </div></div>

Yes they are going to do that. The gentleman told me that we Jamaicans will still have a passport with Jamaica and our coat of arms on it. The other states will also have their countries and coat of arms.

[neutral]

Re: It is oficial, CARICOM PASSPORT

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

For the last couple of years though, if you enter Jamaica and you DON'T use a Jamaican passport, your foreign passport is stamped like a tourist, they give you 6 months and say you can't work while you there.

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I only ever stay for 2 weeks at the most,and I certainly wont be looking for work there.

As for being a tourist,I`ll give you a joke,the last time I was there I was walking through the town centre with my sister and I said to her,...&quot;look how mi blend een,mi look like yardie &quot;....and before the words even left my mouth we heard.....&quot; yow english&quot;...LOl !

[Tropicana]

Re: It is oficial, CARICOM PASSPORT

[Tropicana]

Re: It is oficial, CARICOM PASSPORT

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Britisha</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> So true Tropi...Neutral, if you want a Jamaican passport, thien this is what you will get, but you don't have to apply if you don't need a &quot;Jamaican&quot; passport anymore...

when I was in BLACK Africa Tropi, that Jamaican passport came in very handy, and make &quot;don't leave home without it&quot; truth.

Funny enough, they were all asking about Bob Marley.</div></div>

That's what I found too. The places I travel....I NEED a Jamaican passport. If I was in a terroist or hostage situation, trust me, I would hide or burn my Canadian passport for sure.

[britisha]

Re: It is oficial, CARICOM PASSPORT

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sardine</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: britisha</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Interesting,but what are the advantages,what about those of us who live in the diaspora who doesnt travel on a jamaican passport anymore ,and have long discarded it as useless. </div></div>

I'll tell you when it's useful. If you're travelling to the Middle East, India or Pakisatn, hotels always ask for photocopies of your passport when you check in. They started to do that in Canada last year. Trust me, from now on, I will be giving them my Jamaican rather Caricom passport to copy. The first thing those Mumbai terroists did was go to the front desk and pull out the folder with the passport photocopies. They then started banging on the doors of anyone with a USA, UK, Canadian, or Australian passport. Same thing happens when there are hijackings. If you have a Jamaican passport, they are unlikely to bother you. When you're overseas just let people know you're Jamaican and they smile and say oh &quot;reggae music&quot; &quot;Bob Marley&quot;. Aftah dat, everyting cook and curry. </div></div>

So true Tropi...Neutral, if you want a Jamaican passport, thien this is what you will get, but you don't have to apply if you don't need a &quot;Jamaican&quot; passport anymore...

when I was in <span style="font-weight: bold">BLACK</span> Africa Tropi, <span style="font-weight: bold">that Jamaican passport came in very handy, and make &quot;don't leave home without it&quot; truth.</span>

Funny enough, they were all asking about Bob Marley. </div></div>

Now, with a CARICOM passport, how will they tell the difference?

The whole idea is/was one is not perceived as AN AMERICAN/or whatever nationality they hate...Americans are very hated overseas especially in the East...*I* had to register at the American Embassy &quot;in case we need to evacuate you..&quot; The Jamaican embassy was in Addis Abbaba, [3 days journey away if you can get a plane] so I was caught between the devil and the deep blue sea...but...

One night after partying with some Africans, we were stopped at a roadblock and had a gun pointed in my face &quot;&quot;IDENTIFICATION PLEASE&quot;...I could just show my passport in the dark,...[theyshowed ID as well] and heard &quot;go through...&quot;

Your Jamaican/Caricom passport can save you, trust me on that one; more...many more things I could say.