Why do NON-BLACK Jamaican men shun Black Jamaican Women?

[Emperah]

Re: Why do NON-BLACK Jamaican men shun Black Jamaican Women?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
maybe they are afraid that they cannot find any women there to appreciate them for who they really are.
There are black men who do try to get a woman from back home? </div></div>

mi nuh even kno why anybody a analyze dis fah, they are just being who they are. big rahtid deal

[neutral]

Re: Why do NON-BLACK Jamaican men shun Black Jamaican Women?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dahJahPawtTwo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
maybe they are afraid that they cannot find any women there to appreciate them for who they really are.
There are black men who do try to get a woman from back home? </div></div>

mi nuh even kno why anybody a analyze dis fah, they are just being who they are. big rahtid deal </div></div>

Personally I think its a question of class rather than colour,and wealthy white folks in jamaica usually generate towards other wealthy white folks.

[Emperah]

Re: Why do NON-BLACK Jamaican men shun Black Jamaican Women?

den why not wealthy black folks?

mi jus bleev dem a move wid who dem comfortable wid and dat a fi dem own.

[Tropicana]

Re: Why do NON-BLACK Jamaican men shun Black Jamaican Women?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dahJahPawtTwo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They're making their wealth off fellow Jamaicans and they are selling out fellow Jamaicans. Dem tink dem bettah dan Black people. What a snooty bunch. We should all jus' boycot dem baxides. I wish one a dem would come on yah and address dis. They seem to be only Jamaican when it suits them. </div></div>

They make money offa jamaicans yes.
Who's fault is dat? If it is a bad ting den why don't de jamaicans not commerce wid dem? (mi nuh dem nuh ready fi dat yet)
I see nuttin bout dem selling out. They are white, they do what many yt ppl do wid dem yt privilege, jus cah dem jamaican nuh mean nuttin. How did they come to their position in society? Slavery maybe

Mi nuh expekk nuttin from dem and neither should you.
Would yuh radda dem get a black ooman an treat dem like b!tch? </div></div>

Why would you automatically assume they are going to treat the Black woman poorly?

The Jews have been in Jamaica longer than most of the Blacks. Most have been in Jamaica from the time of the Spanish. The Lebanese came to Jamaica LONG after slavery. It was under British rule that they accumulated their wealth and Black Jamaicans have continued to buy from them while they are looking down on us. Now is that stupid or what?

Every time I see their fancy houses and some foreign White woman enjoying MY country while I have to work my tail off in this cold I could just

[rufian]

Re: Why do NON-BLACK Jamaican men shun Black Jamaican Women?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dahJahPawtTwo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
maybe they are afraid that they cannot find any women there to appreciate them for who they really are.
There are black men who do try to get a woman from back home? </div></div>

mi nuh even kno why anybody a analyze dis fah, they are just being who they are. big rahtid deal </div></div>

was not intended for you, not much than 'whatever' to be expected

[Tropicana]

Re: Why do NON-BLACK Jamaican men shun Black Jamaican Women?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neutral</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They're making their wealth off fellow Jamaicans and they are selling out fellow Jamaicans. Dem tink dem bettah dan Black people. What a snooty bunch. We should all jus' boycot dem baxides. I wish one a dem would come on yah and address dis. They seem to be only Jamaican when it suits them. <span style="font-weight: bold"> Traitors!</span> </div></div>

Tropi`,..I dont know much about this little lot apart from what I read in newspapers about them,have they claimed to be jamaicans,do they recognise themselves as jamaicans,...where are their roots. </div></div>

They have been in Jamaica for generations, they have Jamaican passports and they speak with Jamaican accents. If they aren't Jamaican then why don't they go back to Lebanon or wherever they're from.

[Tropicana]

Re: Why do NON-BLACK Jamaican men shun Black Jamaican Women?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neutral</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dahJahPawtTwo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
maybe they are afraid that they cannot find any women there to appreciate them for who they really are.
There are black men who do try to get a woman from back home? </div></div>

mi nuh even kno why anybody a analyze dis fah, they are just being who they are. big rahtid deal </div></div>

Personally I think its a question of class rather than colour,and wealthy white folks in jamaica usually generate towards other wealthy white folks. </div></div>

Really, then why would they rather marry a low class uneducated White woman than an educated Middle Class Black woman?

[Tropicana]

Re: Why do NON-BLACK Jamaican men shun Black Jamaican Women?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dahJahPawtTwo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">den why not wealthy black folks?

mi jus bleev dem a move wid who dem comfortable wid and dat a fi dem own. </div></div>

So while you are putting up with garbage here in Canada, you're perfectly content with them living high on the hog in Jamaica?

[Emperah]

Re: Why do NON-BLACK Jamaican men shun Black Jamaican Women?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dahJahPawtTwo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They're making their wealth off fellow Jamaicans and they are selling out fellow Jamaicans. Dem tink dem bettah dan Black people. What a snooty bunch. We should all jus' boycot dem baxides. I wish one a dem would come on yah and address dis. They seem to be only Jamaican when it suits them. </div></div>

They make money offa jamaicans yes.
Who's fault is dat? If it is a bad ting den why don't de jamaicans not commerce wid dem? (mi nuh dem nuh ready fi dat yet)
I see nuttin bout dem selling out. They are white, they do what many yt ppl do wid dem yt privilege, jus cah dem jamaican nuh mean nuttin. How did they come to their position in society? Slavery maybe

Mi nuh expekk nuttin from dem and neither should you.
Would yuh radda dem get a black ooman an treat dem like b!tch? </div></div>

Why would you automatically assume they are going to treat the Black woman poorly?

The Jews have been in Jamaica longer than most of the Blacks. Most have been in Jamaica from the time of the Spanish. The Lebanese came to Jamaica LONG after slavery. It was under British rule that they accumulated their wealth and Black Jamaicans have continued to buy from them while they are looking down on us. Now is that stupid or what?

Every time I see their fancy houses and some foreign White woman enjoying MY country while I have to work my tail off in this cold I could just </div></div>

nuff a dem got there money from slave mastah granpah wah mek yuh tink dem really deh fi respect blk ppl? A Leopard cyaan change his spots. Look at white ppl in South Africa or Zimbabwe, why would yuh tink seh dem different in Jamaica?

A dat pawt mi nuh ovastand.

[Emperah]

Re: Why do NON-BLACK Jamaican men shun Black Jamaican Women?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dahJahPawtTwo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">den why not wealthy black folks?

mi jus bleev dem a move wid who dem comfortable wid and dat a fi dem own. </div></div>

So while you are putting up with garbage here in Canada, you're perfectly content with them living high on the hog in Jamaica? </div></div>

What yuh want mi fi duh bout it, guh dung deh an shoot dem dung?
I'd raddah dem stick wid fi dem own anyhow, mek dem leff wi blk ooman alone.

[Tropicana]

Re: Why do NON-BLACK Jamaican men shun Black Jamaican Women?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dahJahPawtTwo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What yuh want mi fi duh bout it, guh dung deh an shoot dem dung?
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[proudmamma]

Re: Why do NON-BLACK Jamaican men shun Black Jamaican Women?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tropicana</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neutral</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dahJahPawtTwo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

maybe they are afraid that they cannot find any women there to appreciate them for who they really are.
There are black men who do try to get a woman from back home? </div></div>

mi nuh even kno why anybody a analyze dis fah, they are just being who they are. big rahtid deal </div></div>

Personally I think its a question of class rather than colour,and wealthy white folks in jamaica usually generate towards other wealthy white folks. </div></div>

Really, then why would they rather marry a low class uneducated White woman than an educated Middle Class Black woman?

hahahahahaha.....now their wives are low class uneducated white women?? Where in Lord Jesus' name do you get your information?

[Seveen]

Re: Why do NON-BLACK Jamaican men shun Black Jamaican Women?

some black women still think that being with a white man projects them back to slave mentality when the &quot;master&quot; could just overcome you

and they aren't even looking that way . . .

[Seveen]

Re: Why do NON-BLACK Jamaican men shun Black Jamaican Women?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neutral</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dahJahPawtTwo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
maybe they are afraid that they cannot find any women there to appreciate them for who they really are.
There are black men who do try to get a woman from back home? </div></div>

mi nuh even kno why anybody a analyze dis fah, they are just being who they are. big rahtid deal </div></div>

Personally I think its a question of class rather than colour,and wealthy white folks in jamaica usually generate towards other wealthy white folks. </div></div>

i think wealthy folks usually gravitate to other wealthy folks

and to me - jamaica has the most mixed up culture i've experienced

indian black
chinese black
white black
german black

out of many . . .

[Tropicana]

Re: Why do NON-BLACK Jamaican men shun Black Jamaican Women?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Out Of Many Cultures The People Who Came
The Arrival Of The Lebanese



1940s: Members of the Lebanese community come out to the Palisadoes airport to meet George Shoucair, who has just arrived from Lebanon. He is the gentleman in the middle with a hat in his hand.


By Dr. Rebecca Tortello

THE BEGINNINGS
The story of the Lebanese in Jamaica begins towards the end of the nineteenth century. Unlike their fellow immigrants from China and India who had begun arriving in Jamaica in the mid-19th century, the Lebanese did not land on the island as indentured labourers. They, like the Jews that had come centuries before, arrived by their own free will, albeit fleeing religious persecution.

Most of those that fled were Christians who suffered religious persecution at the hands of the Muslim Turks who controlled most of the area under the Ottoman Empire. At the time, that region of the Middle East contained people from an area known as Mount Lebanon which was then part of Syria hence the common confusion between the terms Syrian and Lebanese and why they tend to be used interchangeably. Having heard of the wonders of the New World, a place where the streets were supposedly paved with gold that was there for the taking provided one worked hard enough, many sought to escape as quickly as possible and build new lives for themselves and their families.</div></div> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

WHY JAMAICA?
There are a few theories put forth as to why Jamaica was chosen as a destination. Nellie Ammar, the daughter of one of the earliest Lebanese immigrants and matriarch of the well-known Ammar retail family, collected stories from many of her relatives and friends prior to her own passing in the late 1990s. In an article for the Jamaica Journal she referenced her father who explained that for many who left the Middle East in the 1860s and 1870s, Britain was seen as the country of freedom. America was still emerging from the throes of its own bloody civil war. Therefore, according to him, the earliest Lebanese/Syrian immigrants seemed to have decided to seek the protection of the British Flag wherever they could and Jamaica fell into that category. He went on to explain that many of those who came later were joining relatives and friends rather than striking out for entirely new territory. This is known as &quot;chain&quot; migration, where prospective immigrants hear success stories and are provided with passage and a job on arrival through family or other social connections. </div></div> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Other descendants of early immigrants told Ammar that their relatives came because Jamaica was where their ships first landed and since many who bought their passages in the Middle East had no clear idea where they were going they simply disembarked. Still others explained that their family members spoke of first landing in Cuba after having left the Middle East and stopping in the French port of Marseilles or some Italian port. They didn't like Cuba and so came across to Jamaica.</div></div> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

In addition, stories recount that many Lebanese/Syrians first heard of Jamaica as a result of the Great Exhibition of 1891. The Exhibition held on the grounds of what is now Wolmer's Schools drew over 300,000 visitors from around the world including some from the Middle East. They spoke of opportunities in Jamaica and soon, middle easterners from Lebanon, and Palestine such as noted Father of Jamaican Tourism, Abe Issa's grandfather and father, decided to journey to Jamaica and try their luck at selling dry goods.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As time passed, many Lebanese/Syrians achieved success in business. They were careful with their money and worked hard. Fewer and fewer returned to Lebanon. In fact, many of the second generation Lebanese-Jamaicans did not return to Lebanon to find wives and retain aspects of their culture as had been the custom of some of their parents. World War II interrupted this tradition. Second and third generation Lebanese-Jamaicans therefore became more Jamaicanized. </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> CONTRIBUTIONS TO JAMAICAN LIFE
The Lebanese introduced the popular flat bread known as Syrian bread a staple of their diet to Jamaican cuisine. They gave the island a beauty queen former Miss Jamaica and Miss World, Lisa Hanna-Panton is part Lebanese. Names like Hanna, Mahfood, Issa, Joseph, Ammar, Azan, Shoucair, Karam, Younis, Khouri, Fadil, Feanny, Dabdoub, Matalon and Ziadie are giants of retail, tourism, horse racing, industry and manufacturing. Last but not least, perhaps the most famous Jamaican with Lebanese descent is the Most Hon. Edward Seaga, the country's longest serving Minister of Parliament, current leader of the Jamaica Labour Party and former Prime Minister. His contributions to national, economic, social and cultural development are legion.
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Some have inter-married.

<span style="font-weight: bold">Lisa Hannah - mixed </span> <span style="font-weight: bold">Anthony Azan - Mixed </span>


Many have not. My question is WHY?