Help dis lady nuh

[SistahD]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nylah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

okay, I am just talking off the top of my head. The thought just came to me - not necessarily original - but let me say it nonetheless.

Why cant a trust be set up whereby people can donate directly to and then when situations like this arise, funds can be administered accordingly?

Has it bee done before? Are there any issues or limitations that others can see but are flying over my head at the moment? </div></div>


Here is the link to Aston....


A lot of research was done by various members and Xavier arranged an online donation account -once done, red tape and obstacles were presented in getting the money to the lady we were helping... (there are legalities involved in sending money this way into Jamaica as well as other countries in general) however, we prevailed and the donation finalized. The woman was able to get the equipment and supplies needed to make her leather purses and sandals and support her family more capably... a few months later she moved to a different part of the island and we lost track of her.

The main reason to go with an established organization is that they already have the manpower, experience, connections and resources to properly assist people in need in an ongoing manner if necessary.

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SistahD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here is the link to Aston.... </div></div>
Wow <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">SisD</span>...trust you to keep it blazing. <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">Remo</span> did contribute to the cause so I am willing to help in anything he suggest as well!

[SistahD]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SistahD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here is the link to Aston.... </div></div>
Wow <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">SisD</span>...trust you to keep it blazing. <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">Remo</span> did contribute to the cause so I am willing to help in anything he suggest as well! </div></div>


Hope you mean 'blazing' in a good kinda way!

Truly though, it is times like with Aston and his family, and now this lady, some of the same arguments / dialogue arise again. A lot of good discussion comes from being aware of the tragic circumstances in others' lives, and for me anyhow, it breeds a revival of the respect I have for people from various walks of life willing to come together for a common goal, reach out and help others in an unselfish manner.

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SistahD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Hope you mean 'blazing' in a good kinda way! </div></div>
I think you admire your friends <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">DahJah</span> and <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">Blu</span> too much who always use blazing in the negative. As a Jeweler my torch always blazing which is a good thing.

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neutral</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I feel a lot of sympathy for this lady,she has indeed had it rough,however,I would like to ask the question,why is it that these poor women in the ghettos continue to breed and have these whole heap a pickneys when they have no visible means of support....?

Its always the women who are left with the children I feel they should take more care to ensure that when dem open dem legs to wukliss men they are not only protected against STD but has also got adequate contraceptive. </div></div>

Here is the answer to question posed in the Ashton Thread that <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">SisD</span> linked. It was a few years ago and the circumstances and folks were slightly different so I am not going to pretend that this is a direct rebuttal to your position, just something to ponder:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blueingreen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Would it really help giving this woman $10,000? I mean, I don't want to sound as if I have no compassion, but condoms would have been cheaper. Am I a mean person?

xxbig</div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TG</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think she stop doing it!

Proof that even among the victims Jamaicans and getting smarter. One call to a talk show on the subject of people having large amount of kids, said what thinking people have known for years, that a huge population is not necessarily a bad thing it is what you do with that population.

Jamaica's Population and demographics have held basically steady for years but the plight of Jamaicans have worsened, there are many factors but with the reports of the last few weeks in the media on political violence, child neglect and abuse by the state and members of the public, and most importantly the unraveling of the economic foundations of Jamaica.
It is little wonder that a woman with 9 kids who lost one or two of her kids father to violence, who lost her occupation to a life threatening disease, was further devastated by losing her dwellings is seen as a liability to the Country instead of the mother of a potential Scientist, Prime Minster of Artist.</div></div>

<span style="text-decoration: underline">contd....</span>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TG</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It is rarely I think that throwing money at something will help, but in this case, given her past and present history of self-employment, self-sacrifice and the dead-end (no pun) nature of her case health wise, the money that she asks for will possibly save some young Jamaicans from turning to prostitution, crime or a fate worse than even death.

Already her son knows that he can hustle money that his mom cannot even earn washing clothes and babysitting, though it is not easy money, he has so far survived the streets and each day will possibly take or face more risk making his living. Hopefully if her situation changes she can rescue that son and save the others a taste of such an experience.

Doubtless condoms might have helped, but if an economically prosperous country might have done more for this lady and her family than a case of rubbers. I am pretty sure that one or two times there was possibly no money to go to the movies, the parks were none existent or not safe, or the press of working two jobs might only be relieved by sex, which is cheap, plentyful and relatively safe.

Again people must take responsibility for their own lives, but how prepared was this woman and by extension her family for the race?

BTW: teenage pregnancies are down in Jamaica.</div></div>

[sistactry]

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thank Xavier, I have dealt with Food for the Poor in the past, and it was almost effortless, will try that~

[remo]

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Ok so who is willing to help?

[Tuff Gong]

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I said I would send a smalls didn't you see that?

[remo]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I said I would send a smalls didn't you see that? </div></div>

Yeah I saw dat apart from me an you,nuh baddy else?......I spoke to the lady no bank account no ID?.....

[Dr.Dudd]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neutral</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I feel a lot of sympathy for this lady,she has indeed had it rough,however,I would like to ask the question,why is it that these poor women in the ghettos continue to breed and have these whole heap a pickneys when they have no visible means of support....?

Its always the women who are left with the children I feel they should take more care to ensure that when dem open dem legs to wukliss men they are not only protected against STD but has also got adequate contraceptive. </div></div>I suppose for the same reason why you and I have children. They area as human as you and me and have every rught to procreate.
They may be just the one to produce the next inventofr that will feed the world. Ther is not excluisivity on the value of any dids over theother. ZIf it was the kids of the wealthy that becomes the freats of this world, we would all posibly be never born.
Since somewher in our family tree, there must have ben sone woman in her position.

[neutral]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I suppose for the same reason why you and I have children. They area as human as you and me and have every rught to procreate.
They may be just the one to produce the next inventofr that will feed the world. Ther is not excluisivity on the value of any dids over theother. ZIf it was the kids of the wealthy that becomes the freats of this world, we would all posibly be never born.
Since somewher in our family tree, there must have ben sone woman in her position. </div></div>

I disagree, I have two children and they were both planned based on my financial position,and based on whether I would be in a position to feed them,clothed them,and educate them.
Everyone do have a right to procreate,but that does not mean everyone should procreate irresponsibly because they have that right.

It seems to me that in Jamaica a culture exist where no thought or consideration is given with regards to having kids,everyone cries about poverty,yet is quite willing to bring about another mouth to feed regardless of the fact that they are struggling to feed the ones they already have.
What is needed is a program of education to make women more aware of the consequencies of not practising proper birth control methods,what is needed is for men in jamaica to stop seeing it as macho or their god given right,to breed as many women as they have sex with in order to demonstrate how much of a man they are,then abandon those women.

I feel much sympathy for this lady,but I also feel that there are far more worthier causes in jamaica where help would be much better placed.

[remo]

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bringing back up

[remob1]

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this looks like a very worthy cause count me if for a few loonies

[Gen]

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back in the 70/80s i think they had the family planning campaign

&quot;two is better than too many&quot; -was plastered on billboards all ovah the island, not sure if it reduced the # of births on the island

[remo]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">back in the 70/80s i think they had the family planning campaign

&quot;two is better than too many&quot; -was plastered on billboards all ovah the island, not sure if it reduced the # of births on the island </div></div>

if yuh nat going to contribute fine....