Was Giuliani being Racist ..... is being Anti colonialism now a bad thing?????

[Tuff Gong]

Yeah, but, half black is half white. If you are half of one thing you must fill the void with half of another.

This is not exactly how it works. Others here have alluded to the, "One Drop Rule". If you have Negro DNA in you and worse it is very evident, then you are Black. Not half Black. The current POTUS is Black.

And I'm wishing the next president is black, all black. Not that color has any bearing. He just so happens to be black. lol (I suppose he is all black?)...

Yes you don't know for sure if he has White Ancestry you all only using him as a stand-in to wash the bitter taste of Barry out of your collective mouths. Funny, I have heard this even on the ground here from as far back as early last year.Well he is Black, but he is a buffoon and he has zero chance in hell to attain the White House and that's a good thing.The next President of the USA will be Hillary Clinton unless she does not want it. The Democratic Party is not going to commit suicide, by entertaining an internecine war as they did with Hillary v Barry. It is going to be a safe pick, because the GOP will be unable to field a credible Candidate and most likely will go Jeb Bush safe.

[lonewolf]

so when you see a crime committed are you doing the same kind of racial parsing?

I don't know what you are alluding to. Why am I your focus of discussion?

[lonewolf]

Well he is Black, but he is a buffoon

And you base that on what?

Obama is a failure in at least half of the population's eyes, and he is not a buffoon? His approval rating has risen to about 50%? I believe?

Yet, someone that has not had a chance to prove himself either way is a buffoon?

Interesting take on your part...

If Hillary wins the country is doomed...you might as well move back to Jamaica.

[Tuff Gong]

And you base that on what?

Obama is a failure in at least half of the population's eyes, and he is not a buffoon? His approval rating has risen to about 50%? I believe?

A. I am glad you noticed it has risen. The last Republican President, by the time he had left office his own Party was avoiding him like the plague. Barry is about to address the Winter Meeting of the Democratic Party. The Republicans cannot stop calling his name and now find out that they have to deal with him even in mid 2016 (what with all the Court challenges).
He has put more money in rich folks pocket than any President since the 70s. Rescued the USA Economy and kept it clicking. I need not go on.

Yet, someone that has not had a chance to prove himself either way is a buffoon?

I am pretty sure he will never get that chance, so I need not waste time enunciating his clown act.

Interesting take on your part...

If Hillary wins the country is doomed...you might as well move back to Jamaica.

Hillary's time in politics (for want of a better word), has straddled two great Democratic Party's Presidency. All she has to do is get in and steer (she is more than capable in her own right, but the extra help will assist her greatly).

As for I going back to Jamaica. I have been trying since 1997 when my house was broken into and I lost my life savings. Each time there was a girl and then came the real hammer the law. I have tired to explain that I cannot get on a flight and just go home, because you cannot self-deport yourself from the USA.
I will be arrested and end up in Immigration Detention and Court for I don't know how long.

I am actually poorer than I have ever been under Barry, I have just been able to maintain. I made lots of Money under the Two Bushes.
Under Barry's proposed DAPA I was going to be able to go home because when I applied I would not qualify, but I now would have been in the system I could use those Rejection Papers to go home.

I was not planning to be here after this year anyway. I was thinking when Barry goes, I go. Hopefully he will prevail and DAPA will happen soon.

[kia027]

So, Kia, are you calling the president of the USA, the N-word? What are you trying to say?

I am saying what right wing republicans want to say about President Obama

[RichD]

Why am I your focus of discussion?

you are not...your views are ...

[j-kid]

President Obama was asked on camera, 'What do you identify yourself as, Black, White or Biracial (and I clearly heard him). He said, he identifies himself as Black.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/02/obama-census-choice-afric_n_524012.html

[lonewolf]

Originally Posted by RichD
so when you see a crime committed are you doing the same kind of racial parsing?

RichD
Originally Posted by lonewolf
Why am I your focus of discussion?

you are not...your views are ...

What does me seeing a crime and racial parsing have to do with Giuliani' remarks?


My views are not the topic of discussion. But, if you wish to start a different thread about my views, I will join in and explain as much...I don't feel this is the proper place.

Start the topic, (if you dare) and I'll join in.

[lonewolf]

As for I going back to Jamaica. I have been trying since 1997 when my house was broken into and I lost my life savings. Each time there was a girl and then came the real hammer the law. I have tired to explain that I cannot get on a flight and just go home, because you cannot self-deport yourself from the USA.
I will be arrested and end up in Immigration Detention and Court for I don't know how long.

I sincerely hope that things work out for you.

[lonewolf]

I am saying what right wing republicans want to say about President Obama

All I am saying is that you may or may not be right. You can't speak for others.

So, you don't think there are any Democrats that feel that way? Only right wing repubs? Obama's approval rating is at 50%, that means that half the country disaproves of the job he is doing and his capabilities...those numbers would have to include Dems.

[RichD]

What does me seeing a crime and racial parsing have to do with Giuliani' remarks?

you attempted to use racial parsing as a defence(?) of Rudy`s remarks. I am asking you if since this is the way you view things do you use the same measure in all cases...when you see a dark skinned person accused of a crime do you try to parse out their racial background?

My views are not the topic of discussion. But, if you wish to start a different thread about my views, I will join in and explain as much...I don't feel this is the proper place.

Start the topic, (if you dare) and I'll join in.

thats how discussion works...views are stated and challenged...if you don't want your views challenged keep them to yourself...

[lonewolf]

you attempted to use racial parsing as a defence(?) of Rudy`s remarks.

I did no such thing. I stated that I did not see anything racist in his statement...Show me in his statement where race is mentioned or implied? I stated and clarified that I neither agreed nor disagreed with his comment, but did not see anything racist in its context. I'm defending nothing but my right not to answer your sly personal attacks under the cover of another's topic and making my opinions the topic of concern.

As you see I'm answering anything that you ask that has to do with Rudy's remarks and not about me.

I told you to start your own thread on the subject of ME and I would answer anything you wanted to discuss, but you won't because you can't hide behind the skirt of someone elses thread. You don't want to bring attention to yourself and your agenda as it pertains to me.

if you don't want your views challenged keep them to yourself...

You are making things up and posting information as if I stated it or implied same...when the VIEW only exist in your mind. Stop posting false information about me...You have clearly lost your mind.

Now, if you want discuss me, grow a set of nuts and post a topic...I told you I would respond.

Are we clear?

[RichD]

I did no such thing. I stated that I did not see anything racist in his statement...Show me in his statement where race is mentioned or implied?

the implication was clear to me ..

you can deny it and have your view i will have mne.

[RichD]

You are making things up and posting information as if I stated it or implied same...when the VIEW only exist in your mind. Stop posting false information about me...You have clearly lost your mind.

Now, if you want discuss me, grow a set of nuts and post a topic...I told you I would respond.

Are we clear?

you getting a little heated there brother.

you still dont get it.....the discussion is about the views you posted in this topic....so they belong in this topic.

[lonewolf]

you getting a little heated there brother.

you still dont get it.....the discussion is about the views you posted in this topic....so they belong in this topic.

Rich, hey, that's ok. I get it. Just making a point...and I'm sure you understand it. It's all good.

I was sure I clarified, maybe you just did not get it? I enjoy our conversations, just keeping it honest.

No offense my friend...