in desolete places we'll find our bread...

[Wahalla]

Today I visted Inveraray Castle.. the seat of the clan campbell... I go to all sorrts of places.. It was the Argylls among many who fought the maroons at one point or the otehr.. It has an impressive collections of claymores and brown besses...

Still of interest is on the wall is a rather large portrait of Queen Charlotte.. the lady that all claim to be a black ooman and through whom the queen is a self loathing black person denying their blackness.. Let me say I think she looks like she is inbred.. I can understand that some can claim she has black features.. My opion is that this is simply a case of the cousins interbreeding..

More intruging I beleive the seaconf Earl of Argyl was on the wall..(William Campbell) who is he and of what import is he ??? well Wahalla is just demonstrating his sell out nature looking at ded white men... I beleive he was the last British Gouvonor of South Carolina and I beleive he may have issued a emancipation proclamation in Yanki dom before it was ratified after the death of lincoln...

[neutral]

Re: in desolete places we'll find our bread...

Queen charlotte

[neutral]

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Race Matters: Was Queen Charlotte, Our City's Namesake, Black?
"Was Queen Charlotte, our city's namesake, black?

Her African heritage is part of the legends and facts that cling to the petite German woman who married "mad King George" and who inspired not only Charlotte, North Carolina, but at least eight other places in North America-- including our town.

Although she was German, Charlotte was directly descended from Margarita de Castro y Sousa, a member of the black branch of the Portuguese royal house. Whether her lineage affected her appearance is contested.

Historian Mario de Valdes y Cocom says that her features, as seen in royal portraits, were conspicuously "negroid" and reports that they were noted by numerous contemporaries including the queen's personal physician, Baron Stockmar, who described her at age 84 as "small and crooked, with a true mulatto face."

Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia, explains that Charlotte's ancestor, Margarita de Castro, descended from Portuguese monarch Alfonso III and his mistress, Mourana Gil, an African of Moorish descent.

The Wikipedia blog contains an ongoing argument, with one blogger writing, "This is precisely the kind of thing historians would love to cover up." Another objects, "The whole 'Queen Charlotte was black' thing is total garbage." A third answers, "It's apparent that racist sentiments seem to find their way into the simplist [sic] of arguments." "An African ancestry doesn't mean she's black." "It is actually quite certain that all European royalty has a slight amount of black ancestry." And so on.

De Valdes notes that in 1952 the English royal family referred to Queen Elizabeth II's Asian and African bloodlines as a justification for her coronation as head of the British Commonwealth of Nations. Elizabeth is a direct descendant of Charlotte.

The most decidedly African of her portraits were painted by Sir Allan Ramsay, an anti-slavery artist who was responsible for the majority of the paintings of the queen. A full-length Ramsay portrait of Queen Charlotte in its original Chippendale frame hangs in the Mint Museum in Charlotte, North Carolina.

[rufian]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Whether her lineage affected her appearance is contested.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The most decidedly African of her portraits were painted by Sir Allan Ramsay, an anti-slavery artist who was responsible for the majority of the paintings of the queen.</div></div>
this factor definitely influenced his work

So wa yu a say wid this neutral?

[rufian]

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You a overdo, you done know all Latinos have black genes in them

My point is back then the black identity was not an issue like we are dealing with it now. Today 'is she black' is just like the white racists back then

[jah_yout]

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looks black to me;
plus where there is smoke there is fire

[rufian]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">looks black to me;
plus where there is smoke there is fire </div></div>
which part of her looks black to you? you must be white looking

[jah_yout]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">looks black to me;
plus where there is smoke there is fire </div></div>
which part of her looks black to you? you must be white looking </div></div>



mainly the second picture neutral posted, whichi have seen before; like i say where there is smoke there is fire because rumors of her african ancestry have never gone away nr have never been disproved;
shi look like nuff red ooman mi si already

[neutral]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sukuna</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

So wa yu a say wid this neutral? </div></div>

Just pointing out some research on the topic,personally I think she has got african blood in her,the fact that this issue has been the topic of much discourse over the year clearly points to something inna something.