Kingston Sch of Nursing to be closed...

[evanovitch]

The Ministry of Health has announced plans to close the Kingston School of Nursing.

Health Minister Ruddy Spencer told Gordon House Wednesday night that instead of nurses, midwifes will be trained at the present location along Half Way Tree Road in St. Andrew.

He said nurses will be trained at the University of Technology (U-Tech).

"Training is now done by U-Tech in collaboration with the Ministry of Health, so all our nurses are being trained there. This represents the last batch of people that are already in training so the budget allocation is quite adequate," said Mr. Spencer who was addressing Parliament's Standing Finance Committee Wednesday night.

He was answering Opposition leader Portia Simpson Miller who had raised concern about the money set aside to train nurses in the new budget.

<span style="font-weight: bold"> but wid both schools u put out more nurses....we find money fi everyting but training our people in viable careers...ah sah...dem soon stawt underwrite my guy deh moddda own if tings get shawt wid him...</span>

[RichD]

Re: Kingston Sch of Nursing to be closed...

is there a shortage of nurses in Jamaica? or is this additional training to supply other markets?

[evanovitch]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">is there a shortage of nurses in Jamaica? or is this additional training to supply other markets? </div></div>

dere was a hue an cry re the shortage of nurses dere, as overseas was tekking dem ...is not like dem a increase di facilities at UTECH fi mek di said amount get trained, dem a cut di available training of nurses....

[Dr.Dudd]

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Ther is an international trend to mive nursung from hospital based, to college based. thuis is in the effort to upgrade the skill set to a profession (requires a first degree) from being a trade or as is the case with an apprenticship under the hospital setting.

This started in the US in 1950's and all RNs are reqyired to have a degree. LPNs on th eothere hand can still be trained in trade schools system.
Prior to the 50's all nurses were trained in the US was trained under the apprenticship system in hospitals.

So it is a move up for the Jamaican nursing profession. Good for them.
That is if they training system is kept apace woth newly develoeped nursing techniques. this is updated on an annual; basis in the states.
under the present trauinung regime, most KPH trained nurses are required additional trg to be accepted by the US national leageu of nursing.

yet those from guyana does not because they are attached to University of Huyana.

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Kingston Sch of Nursing to be closed...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">is there a shortage of nurses in Jamaica? or is this additional training to supply other markets? </div></div>

dere was a hue an cry re the shortage of nurses dere, as overseas was tekking dem ...is not like dem a increase di facilities at UTECH fi mek di said amount get trained, dem a cut di available training of nurses.... </div></div> Thye will still spend the same ampint of tiume at KPH,. Only the theory aspect will be controlled by JUTECH

[twiney]

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Evan I think as it was explained the whole rationale behind this was to get the RNs to have 4 year degrees as the Doc said the practical part remains in the hospital ... The only disadvantage to this is more of they will fit even better in the international market and that may result in our losing more of them to foreign.

[Dr.Dudd]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Twiny</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Evan I think as it was explained the whole rationale behind this was to get the RNs to have 4 year degrees as the Doc said the practical part remains in the hospital ... The only disadvantage to this is more of they will fit even better in the international market and that may result in our losing more of them to foreign. </div></div> Probably th einternational parket will be in Jamaica. as soon as jamaica can pr9duce enough NLN standard RN,s the healthe toueism will be going gang busters. Whatit will do is to create a better salary structure for nurses in jamaica. Aboiy the migratiion of loically trained nurses. Jamaica has the capabillity to taraun at least 10 times the number of nerses they need. it is just thatthe market does not demand it.
Predominantly because of theiri colour.
They take physicians from Philiines,and dertify them as nurses,hey they are nit trained as nurses. i will chose a traines nurse, iver a physician thaty does not know nursing. They are not interchamble skills they ahve to be learned..

[Dyoll_73]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">... under the present trauinung regime, most KPH trained nurses are required additional trg to be accepted by the US national leageu of nursing.

yet those from guyana does not because they are attached to University of Huyana. </div></div>

Both UWI-Mona and NCU have long offered BSc degrees in Nursing for quite a while now. They both have high pass rates on the local and US exams.

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Kingston Sch of Nursing to be closed...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Humano</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">... under the present trauinung regime, most KPH trained nurses are required additional trg to be accepted by the US national leageu of nursing.

yet those from guyana does not because they are attached to University of Huyana. </div></div>

Both UWI-Mona and NCU have long offered BSc degrees in Nursing for quite a while now. They both have high pass rates on the local and US exams. </div></div> That is what i'm talking about. If Jamaica Nurses association had a blanket requirement requirements for RN's BSN minimums,ther would be no need to take Us exams. They would hav egotten automatica parity from NLN,and be allowed allowed state registration,as is the case for nirses travelling fromm states with NLN parity. Incidentally Nurses trained in New Hamshire and Mayne haev to takes those exams to be certified in Massachusetts. While Mass. nurses do not require this to be certifued in any other states. All bases on th estraining structure that are predominant in the state.
So althoughjh some colleges in those states does require a clooege bases training, the fact that it is not a requirement does it. same goes for Jamaica, while guyana, is exempted from taking tests, because all their nurses are required college trg as minimums.