blakk male unemployment

[Amberal37]

Re: blakk male unemployment

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
that is just one small part of it;
what i'm speaking of is the concept of 'employment'...it re-inforces the current earth philosophy of overlords and serfs...and of extreme individualism- one guy must have all and one must have nothing or very little...
black men and black women and all humanity for that matter can only change the current course of destruction of the earth by re-thinking the ruling system's philosophy...
if humanity studies life and cooperative living instead of greed &amp; gluttony then it will be possible to have full 'employment' which babylonia economists will tell you that 'full employment' is not possible </div></div>

OK, but aren't we verging on &quot;pure&quot; communism here - which has NEVER been practised in any of the world's countries.

Also, I'm not sure that the black men on the employment line now can afford to wait for the rest of the world to change their thinking, based on a hypothesis.

[tsophra]

Re: blakk male unemployment

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: amberal37</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jaded</div><div class="ubbcode-body">can't have sll sellers and no buyers </div></div>


What do you mean...sellers are also buyers. If they were all selling the same thing, then YES there is a problem, but people have difference natural talents and skills.

Eg. you sell socks, someone else sells bananas, the other personal will get a hole in his socks so needs a new pair, you will be hungary so you need to buy banana...well, hope you understand what I mean.
Everything in your house has been bought, just many other people that sold these things to you.

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I understand what you mean...thinking about how to clarify what <span style="font-weight: bold">I</span> said... its all so connected...

[Gen]

Re: blakk male unemployment

jaded yuh did watch ramsey town hall last night ?

[Gen]

Re: blakk male unemployment

suh it come back dung to the system ?

[jah_yout]

Re: blakk male unemployment

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: amberal37</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
that is just one small part of it;
what i'm speaking of is the concept of 'employment'...it re-inforces the current earth philosophy of overlords and serfs...and of extreme individualism- one guy must have all and one must have nothing or very little...
black men and black women and all humanity for that matter can only change the current course of destruction of the earth by re-thinking the ruling system's philosophy...
if humanity studies life and cooperative living instead of greed &amp; gluttony then it will be possible to have full 'employment' which babylonia economists will tell you that 'full employment' is not possible </div></div>

OK, but aren't we verging on &quot;pure&quot; communism here - which has NEVER been practised in any of the world's countries.

Also, I'm not sure that the black men on the employment line now can afford to wait for the rest of the world to change their thinking, based on a hypothesis. </div></div>

who said anything about communism?
certainly not me...that is another ism &amp; schism of european philosophy;

like it or not babylonia philosophy can't sustain the earth; despite their feeling that they are the best on earth;

a total change is needed and the earth wasn't built in a day;
be sturdy ye ones of little faith

[jah_yout]

Re: blakk male unemployment

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gen</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> suh it come back dung to the system ?


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for sure...

[Amberal37]

Re: blakk male unemployment

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gen</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> suh it come back dung to the system ?


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for sure...
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Well if you and others want to put it that way, then fine...but I sure ain't waiting for no system to change...wouldn't encourage any boy child of mine to either. Learn the rules and exceptions and get on with the business of doing what you want to do, just watch the landmines!

[jah_yout]

Re: blakk male unemployment

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: amberal37</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gen</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> suh it come back dung to the system ?


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for sure...
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Well if you and others want to put it that way, then fine...but I sure ain't waiting for no system to change...wouldn't encourage any boy child of mine to either. Learn the rules and exceptions and get on with the business of doing what you want to do, just watch the landmines! </div></div>

not saying to wait;
by all means get a job- it is the main way of obtaining 'money' in this civilization...we have been taught- especially black people- to go to school so you can get a good job and work for the superior benevolent white man and his superior civilization...
but now even that is deteriorating...guys who had big jobs before can't even find one now...
the whole philosophy that america &amp; some other western nations were founded on- blatant greed &amp; individualism &amp; that profit is limitlesss and the mission of humanity is to make money--is being challenged as we speak;

how about people working for minimum wage...how great is that?

[Amberal37]

Re: blakk male unemployment

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">not saying to wait;
by all means get a job- it is the main way of obtaining 'money' in this civilization...we have been taught- especially black people- to go to school so you can get a good job and work for the superior benevolent white man and his superior civilization...
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Please forgive me, gonna have to give a little yaaaawn! I either know you or heard the same rhetoric before...gonna have to be blunt that I think this is blatant &quot;excuse&quot;

Half of what we are taught comes from the schools we attend, the rest from our peers and family circles. The actions beyond that are down to YOU as an individual.

You may consider working for yourself as working for the &quot;man&quot; but I see is as otherwise.
Money replaces gold as a means of assessing wealth, and to some extent &quot;status&quot;. Yes society dictates the means by which you accumulate it, but by my estimation, the only time this is unfair, is not all citizens are given the full tools to participate, and individuals or organisations withold those tools (contrary to the current written law) based on fear and inferiority complex through false perceptions.

ALL societies in history have placed a value on the contribution of it's populace, whether they give land, or a new wife for a brave combat, or for predicting rain in drought. A lot of this is also tied to barter, where this relies a lot on the personal value that the thing holds. For example, a camel might be worth US$10,000 to an arab, but US$10 to an American. But the human brain is capable of dealing with many systems, they are ALL man-made, so one can look at it as learning how to play chess, when you have only ever played draughts before.
Rather than sentencing a whole generation (or more) to waiting for the system to change, don't you think that it is better to learn ways of participating so they can benefit in a fulfilling way in their lifetime?
They can always dedicate hobby time to writing the new rulebook.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">but now even that is deteriorating...guys who had big jobs before can't even find one now...
the whole philosophy that america &amp; some other western nations were founded on- blatant greed &amp; individualism &amp; that profit is limitlesss and the mission of humanity is to make money--is being challenged as we speak;</div></div>

It is being challenged, but it will not change overnight.
The initial premise of the current system was &quot;supply and demand&quot;. Then the market was also to try to similate demand where there was not.
Out of that premise, profit is not limited, because there is always one individual or group willing to put a premium on a product that someone else has created.
Take for example bread - let's say wheat, water, salt, heat. Substains human life, and means that man has one more day to think and improve on yesterday's.

When it is made in large quantities the combined price might be 45cents each. Someone else pays you 60cents for the finished thing. Profit on each bread is 15cents. Now that person is paying you the premium of not having to make the bread themselves. Also they might not be anygood baking bread, so their time would be better spent making hats or something.
It becomes a problem when people charge a premium when they do not offer goods to the value - that is what has been happening...so you have the greedy tricking the system to say they are offing goods of value when nothing in society improves as a result of it.

Well, enough of this from me...

[jah_yout]

Re: blakk male unemployment

must everything be about profit?

whatever happened to humanity?

enough about this from me as well...
peace

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: blakk male unemployment

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: amberal37</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gen</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> suh it come back dung to the system ?


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for sure...
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Well if you and others want to put it that way, then fine...but I sure ain't waiting for no system to change...wouldn't encourage any boy child of mine to either. Learn the rules and exceptions and get on with the business of doing what you want to do, just watch the landmines! </div></div>many of those boys weew not that lucky as your's to have enlightened paRENTS AS YOU are.
Socirty made sure that the majoroty of parents were not.

[Amberal37]

Re: blakk male unemployment

<span style="font-weight: bold"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">many of those boys weew not that lucky as your's to have enlightened paRENTS AS YOU are</div></div></span>

One of the key lessons that I have learnt in life is...&quot;choose your battles carefully&quot;

I will take that as a compliment...

[KD_09]

Re: blakk male unemployment

The answer is democratic socialism. But hey no one wants that because everyone prefers to live off hope alone and use hope to feed and clothe their children that one day they will be the crab at the top.

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: blakk male unemployment

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KD_09</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The answer is democratic socialism. But hey no one wants that because everyone prefers to live off hope alone and use hope to feed and clothe their children that one day they will be the crab at the top. </div></div>You mis the point why demicratic and all other forms of socialism doe not work. It is the lack of certainty of sucessful expression. The fatal flaw of socialism is the absence of a any form of incentive to stimulate inventiveness. dues to the assemetry fo abillity to ppeduce,for any group to be a success,those who have superior abillities have to be able to express them, to compansate for those who are physically limited. Thatt is how caputalism produce enough to be able to support it's constituents. the only reason whi capitalism fails, is due to the lack of relevant legal and pinitive rules to promoite a more equitable distribution of it's production.
In other words in a socialist economy every produce the least they can without being pinished. this always result in shortages. which eventually leads to a collapse of th eeconomic structure,due to either insurrection, or like in the sace of Russia,desolution. .capitakism was not invented any more than the laws of physics was. It was discovered. It is ann immutable It behave similar to all other immutable laws.they serve you well when you use them according to their principles, and just as easily destruy you if you don't.
capitalosm is a pronciple that is governed by the science of economics. yes ter are those fools ,and many ther are, that say economics is an art. It is an art to those who does not truly understand it, to those who knows it, it's an exacting science.