Re: Philanthropist gives up on Jamaica-very discouraging story
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i agree with that ..i hope she gave the interview from the airport lounge </div></div>
Re: Philanthropist gives up on Jamaica-very discouraging story
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">seems she was well aware of the runnins ..jus supprised they would turn on her so quickly </div></div>Why? she was probably very vocal about the rape, and knowing that people know who did it but not talking. She obviously said the wrong thing the wrong person...forgot to see no evil hear no evil speak no evil broke the code so to speak.
Re: Philanthropist gives up on Jamaica-very discouraging story
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nylah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
level granted but she seemed unaware of her surroundings or didnt appreciate what it can mean to someone to be poor and desperate.
</div></div> my take is that her feeling is that the robbery was not out of poverty or desperation but rather as reprisal for her speaking out against certain actions </div></div>
like the 14 yr old who was gang raped If no one speaks up for the girl then how can positive change begin?
If you don't fight for what you deserve, you deserve what you get.
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Re: Philanthropist gives up on Jamaica-very discouraging story
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: uswe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If she hadnt been working in the community, she would be in the morgue with a tag on her toe. </div></div>
so de robbers did give her a bly?
If you don't fight for what you deserve, you deserve what you get.
We are > Fossil Fuels --- Bill McKibben 350.org
Re: Philanthropist gives up on Jamaica-very discouraging story
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kia</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: uswe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If she hadnt been working in the community, she would be in the morgue with a tag on her toe. </div></div>
so de robbers did give her a bly? </div></div>
Unfortunately thats how the robbers probably saw it, that they were doing her a favour by letting her and the others live!
Re: Philanthropist gives up on Jamaica-very discouraging story
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nylah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I guess I am thinking why is she surprised in one sense that what has happened cannot happen?
I mean it isnt just in JA but any improvished area where others go to help. You have to be aware that not everyone will feel grateful that you are there. Not that that is right in any way shape or form, but so human nature stay. Lord knows, I have been at the receiving end of that when I think I was just being a do-gooder
So sometimes you need to learn to give without expecting pats on the back....But yes, gun pointed at your head is another level granted but she seemed unaware of her surroundings or didnt appreciate what it can mean to someone to be poor and desperate.
I guess I am surprised at her surprise. She thought her good deeds would protect her but I think anywhere on this planet, you cannot count on that.
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Jamaicans are robbed and killed daily..what made her think she was immune from this
So she think only regular jamaicans gets followed home from the airport and then robbed it happens every day....However,I am happy no one was killed
Re: Philanthropist gives up on Jamaica-very discouraging story
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gourmet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">".If you are trying get me to leave, you have done your job, I am leaving Tower Hill for good," she said
Morgan told the Observer that she fell out of favour with certain elements in the community after she hit out at persons who participated in the gang rape of a 14-year-old girl in a section of the community.
"They could tell me how many condoms they used, how many times she screamed out in the night and how many times they sent her to clean up herself, but no one knew who did it," Morgan said.
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Well at least she knows the mechanics and what it all turned on!
Re: Philanthropist gives up on Jamaica-very discouraging story
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: yaadie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jamaicans are robbed and killed daily..what made her think she was immune from this.</div></div>
You are right...she should have known her day would come!
Re: Philanthropist gives up on Jamaica-very discouraging story
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">yea man...jamaica lost its soul when these things can happen (14 yr-old gang raped)
no one can tell me poverty causes this </div></div> What you talking about?!?!
They did that to me during the 70's in REMA.
I was setting up a community economic project to produce leather products and SNOc-one and syrups.
The Don decided he wanted the money instead. He gave the orders,and they carried it out.
Weill as usual I don't have any money.
6 Youth stuck me up with their little Smith and Wesson five shooter. and went through my briefcase. I didn't even carry a fire arm.
Since I know they would try to get that.
After they did they realize that they couldn't get any cash that way, and do anything to me and survive.
So they apologized and return my possession
They were all killed on the order of the same Don that sent them, after he denied he had anything to do with it. As usual he got his not too long after. since it scrapped the whole project,and i stopped contacting them and refused to work with them.
All I am saying is that , it happens and very often too.
ask many of the priests, athatstil going, how many times they faced that and still go there.
If you face it and go back, they won't bother with you, but I couldn't take the chance with 6 youth pointing guns at me with their hands sweating and fingers twitching.
accidents like those are too easy to happen.
Re: Philanthropist gives up on Jamaica-very discouraging story
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nylah</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nylah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
level granted but she seemed unaware of her surroundings or didnt appreciate what it can mean to someone to be poor and desperate.</div></div> my take is that her feeling is that the robbery was not out of poverty or desperation but rather as reprisal for her speaking out against certain actions </div></div>
ah okay. I see what you mean.
<span style="font-weight: bold">but that soceital breakdown that allows Dons to make such orders against a person in their community is born out of poverty and desperation, no?
If certain social dysfunctions were not in place, then the act wouldnt have even occurred?</span>
It would be something she needs to be aware of going into such an area, I would think. </div></div>
At least you Nylah has stated some of the causes. Let me say that the comments here reflect "a kind of acceptance" because we have gotten use to a climate of "lawlessness" in our communities. The sad fact is: the community of Tower Hill is a microcosm of what is considered "normal" in many areas of Jamaica today. It saddened me that there was not more "outrage" over the incidents of the rape of the 14yr old girl and the robbery and violation of this do-gooder lady in the community...
We have just seen how Jamaica is being portrayed in the foreign media of late. One which is still fresh in our minds with the title <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Sun, Sand and Savagery</span>: Whatever happened to Jamaica, Paradise Island</span> is a case in point and should be disturbing to us... What these "savages" did, confirmed what these Farrinas are all writing about us...I'm sure the word SAVAGERY is particularly disturbing to many of us because it makes look less than civilized people and we should be angry...
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