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[Dyoll_73]

Re: Suspect jailed in Kansas abortion doctor's killing

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Serenity82</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If my mother had been raped, would I deserve to be killed? How about your own, is that your fault, should you have never been allowed to exist because of the circumstances?

In addition, there can be some exceptions(danger to the life of the mother, disease etc) but <span style="font-weight: bold">in general abortion is murder</span>. </div></div>

Legally, it isn't. But morally/ethically speaking, some people may come to that position.

What is rarely acknowledged is that the right to life is not absolute. If a woman is raped and got pregnant (obviously she did not consent to conceiving a child), it is well within her rights to terminate that pregnancy. Now,she may choose to continue with the pregnancy and give birth to the child, but she should not be compelled to do so. Also, when a woman's life is in danger, this becomes a issue of self-defense, and she is well within her rights to terminate the pregnancy. Again, she may chose to continue and give birth to the child, but she shouldn't be compelled to do so.

My own view: I'm generally against abortion, but I think exceptions should be made for cases of rape, and when the woman's life is in danger.

[Serenity82]

Re: Suspect jailed in Kansas abortion doctor's killing

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Humano</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Serenity82</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If my mother had been raped, would I deserve to be killed? How about your own, is that your fault, should you have never been allowed to exist because of the circumstances?

In addition, there can be some exceptions(danger to the life of the mother, disease etc) but <span style="font-weight: bold">in general abortion is murder</span>. </div></div>

Legally, it isn't. But morally/ethically speaking, some people may come to that position.

What is rarely acknowledged is that the right to life is not absolute. If a woman is raped and got pregnant (obviously she did not consent to conceiving a child), it is well within her rights to terminate that pregnancy. Now,she may choose to continue with the pregnancy and give birth to the child, but she should not be compelled to do so. Also, when a woman's life is in danger, this becomes a issue of self-defense, and she is well within her rights to terminate the pregnancy. Again, she may chose to continue and give birth to the child, but she shouldn't be compelled to do so.

My own view: I'm generally against abortion, but I think exceptions should be made for cases of rape, and when the woman's life is in danger. </div></div>

You'd be surprised how many women are having abortions as birth control Humano. I have never, however you'd be surprised at how many women are. abortion is murder, even when necessary!

[twiney]

Re: Suspect jailed in Kansas abortion doctor's killing

While this is one man who killed another I dont join with the pro-life groups because some of them committing some other sin worst and they have this holier than thou attitude. I do believe abortion is murder but how many murders did David commit? It is not an unforgivable sin (and no I am not giving permission for people to just go ahead and abort) but if they do chose to do so that is between them and God.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">John 8:7:

So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.</div></div>

[Nylah]

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sin is sin and there is differntiation between one being worse that the other. So you do not combat one with another and think you are being righteous. At least they should be honest and say that they are murdering doctors whom they choose to judge.

If the criteria for stepping into a church is who hasnt sinned then all the pews would be empty aint it?



besides there is a difference between murder and killing, which speaks to Humano's point above.

[britisha]

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hahahaha. I hope this thread isn't going to go down the slippery slope that that one did in FandR years ago.


What I find amusing is the ridiculousness of the American law...one minute something is illegal, the next minute it is not.

years ago, <span style="font-weight: bold"> ABORTION WAS A CRIME IN THE US</span>...anyone, quacks medical doctors, back alley practitioners who performed abortions could be imprisoned for a very long time if found guilty of such practice..


Then here comes Roe vs Wade,,,what some people won't remember is, this law was passed primarily to SAVE THE LIVES OF WOMEN WHO WERE DYING FROM botched abortions and the concomitant infections, hemorrhaging etc that went along with it. the AMA went along with it for there was and still is money to be made.<span style="font-weight: bold">

The law is hypocritical; in one breath abortion is MURDER and in the next breath, it is okay. The act is the same, regardless of the reasoning or rationale behind it to render it legal...the act doesn't change..</span>

Everyone knows that ANY PROCEDURE to save the life of anyone, be it a woman or man, will be deemed okay. However, when they couldn't find any physical reason warranting saving her life,, they attached the psychological clause...ie if the pregnancy will affect the mother emotionally... then it is essential to do it for her well being...that is the/one logic behind saving the woman's life.

Why would a woman carry a foetus for 6 months and then out of the blue decide to have an abortion? Maybe the boyfriend left her and not so much to save her life? Give me a break !!!

Yea, we know, there is none that doeth good, no not one, but murder is still murder...oono walk good and carry on.

[Nylah]

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