Jamaican woman dies in Panamanian prison

[evanovitch]

More questions are being raised about the welfare of Jamaican female prisoners being held by the authorities in Panama following the death of one of the women on Sunday.

<span style="font-weight: bold">The woman's death came six months after RJR News exposed the poor conditions in which the women, most of whom are being held on drug charges, were being held in Panamanian prisons.</span>

News emerged Sunday that a 39-year-old woman from Spanish Town in St. Catherine, collapsed in a cell at the Centro Femenino prison, and later died at a hospital.

It is reported that she died early Sunday morning several hours after her Jamaican cell mates pleaded desperately to prison employees to provide medical assistance after the woman complained of feeling ill.

Our news centre spoke with one of the Jamaican inmates who claimed that the pleas fell on deaf ears.

She says when prison officials finally responded it was too late.

&quot;The lady felt sick. They are supposed to have a doctor in this place and they don't. They want to treat us like dogs, we do whatever we did but we are not dogs. Why are they treating Jamaicans like that?&quot;

&quot;The lady couldn't breathe! We called them and told them to take her up and carry her to the doctor but they said they don't have any time for that! I said the lady is dying, you can't wait and they said they don't have any time for that because they are sleeping. The lady dead after I saw her,&quot; said

a Jamaican female inmate being held at the Centro Femenino Prison in Panama City.

She says the incident has been getting coverage on television stations in the country.

When contacted a spokesman for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs said he had not been informed of the incident but promised to make checks and provide a response.

[jah_yout]

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outrage!

[Emperah]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They want to treat us like dogs, we do whatever we did but we are not dogs.
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fi some reason mi nuh feel nuh way.
dem a nuh political prisonah ar smaddy eendeh dat een deh wrongly, dem admit dat dem fi een deh nuh chroo?

[bee_bop]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dahJahPawtTwo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They want to treat us like dogs, we do whatever we did but we are not dogs.
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fi some reason mi nuh feel nuh way.
dem a nuh political prisonah ar smaddy eendeh dat een deh wrongly, dem admit dat dem fi een deh nuh chroo? </div></div>

<span style="color: #3333FF"><span style="font-weight: bold">The hard part is that there are times when innocents get locked-up, maybe because someone in authority didn't like the look of their face, or something like that.

Generally, regardless of what the lady did, she should at least have had access to a doctor. I wonder if the Jamaican government will at least try to get an autopsy report??</span></span>

[Boricua_papi]

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Mi neva like dem Panamanians atall. Most cliquish and arrogant inna central america. Mi caan si dis appening deh.

[bee_bop]

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<span style="color: #000099"><span style="font-weight: bold">A lot of Jamaicans went there to build the canal, a long time ago, some remained to become Panamanians. I wonder what happened to them??

I met a Cuban girl once, who said her grandfather was Jamaican by birth, and she took me to meet him. She recognized my accent, as I spoke among a group of people, even though she had never been to Jamaica. I suppose it meant something to the old man, to hear an accent that he hadn't heard in a long time.

Then there was the Cuban gentleman I met also, who spoke fluent Spanish, but country-style patois. If you ever heard him speak English, you'd swear he was a real country-man from yard...</span></span>

[Dr.Dudd]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Littleman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dahJahPawtTwo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They want to treat us like dogs, we do whatever we did but we are not dogs.
</div></div>

fi some reason mi nuh feel nuh way.
dem a nuh political prisonah ar smaddy eendeh dat een deh wrongly, dem admit dat dem fi een deh nuh chroo? </div></div>

<span style="color: #3333FF"><span style="font-weight: bold">The hard part is that there are times when innocents get locked-up, maybe because someone in authority didn't like the look of their face, or something like that.

Generally, regardless of what the lady did, she should at least have had access to a doctor. I wonder if the Jamaican government will at least try to get an autopsy report??</span></span> </div></div>It shouldn't matter if the person is innocent or guilty.
It is a person ad should be treated humanely even in prisons.
I have to treat the gang banger with the same level of kindness as the law abiding upstanding citizen.
If we should all treat people the way we think some of us would be abandoned in their most desperate times.

[Dr.Dudd]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Littleman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="color: #000099"><span style="font-weight: bold">A lot of Jamaicans went there to build the canal, a long time ago, some remained to become Panamanians. I wonder what happened to them??

I met a Cuban girl once, who said her grandfather was Jamaican by birth, and she took me to meet him. She recognized my accent, as I spoke among a group of people, even though she had never been to Jamaica. I suppose it meant something to the old man, to hear an accent that he hadn't heard in a long time.

Then there was the Cuban gentleman I met also, who spoke fluent Spanish, but country-style patois. If you ever heard him speak English, you'd swear he was a real country-man from yard...</span></span> </div></div> Panama was establoshed by theUS and as such was established with racism as it's base. The Jamaican who went there were prevented from leaving after they wuld the cana. This was achieved by payingtyhem in silver,which was not accepted by shipping companies while they paid tehj races that were free to leave in Gold. That is why they were called the silver people. in thewhole central American sub continent. They wer treated as subhumans left to live off the land,and they are still treated as subhumans as long as they have african looksa.

[evanovitch]

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Dahjah is dat deh tinking mek dem yute ask &quot;could u go tru wat di ole Rastafari go tru&quot;....an mek one country sen a man go jail ovah a dawgfight while humans die fi lack of outrage in a di jails of wat is essentially a US protectorate

[britisha]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Littleman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="color: #000099"><span style="font-weight: bold">A lot of Jamaicans went there to build the canal, a long time ago, some remained to become Panamanians. I wonder what happened to them??

I met a Cuban girl once, who said her grandfather was Jamaican by birth, and she took me to meet him. She recognized my accent, as I spoke among a group of people, even though she had never been to Jamaica. I suppose it meant something to the old man, to hear an accent that he hadn't heard in a long time.

Then there was the Cuban gentleman I met also, who spoke fluent Spanish, but country-style patois. If you ever heard him speak English, you'd swear he was a real country-man from yard...</span></span> </div></div>

I am friends with many Panamanians, and listening to some of them who are 3rd and 4th generation[s], one could hardly tell that they are not Jamaicans...accent strong same way.

Ongle ting is dem still cyaaan cook curried goat, mebbie it is because Jamaican men went to work there and dem nain know how fi cook...but mi digress...

[jah_yout]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dahJahPawtTwo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They want to treat us like dogs, we do whatever we did but we are not dogs.
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fi some reason mi nuh feel nuh way.
dem a nuh political prisonah ar smaddy eendeh dat een deh wrongly, dem admit dat dem fi een deh nuh chroo? </div></div>

so you are ok with prisoners being killed without due process? even a fellow j'can? yu rough

[jah_yout]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: B_P</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mi neva like dem Panamanians atall. Most cliquish and arrogant inna central america. Mi caan si dis appening deh. </div></div>

i have panamanian relatives &amp; i think panamanians some of the nicest people around...i speak out against anti-black latin american racism in all its forms

[jah_yout]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: britisha</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Littleman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="color: #000099"><span style="font-weight: bold">A lot of Jamaicans went there to build the canal, a long time ago, some remained to become Panamanians. I wonder what happened to them??

I met a Cuban girl once, who said her grandfather was Jamaican by birth, and she took me to meet him. She recognized my accent, as I spoke among a group of people, even though she had never been to Jamaica. I suppose it meant something to the old man, to hear an accent that he hadn't heard in a long time.

Then there was the Cuban gentleman I met also, who spoke fluent Spanish, but country-style patois. If you ever heard him speak English, you'd swear he was a real country-man from yard...</span></span> </div></div>

I am friends with many Panamanians, and listening to some of them who are 3rd and 4th generation[s], one could hardly tell that they are not Jamaicans...accent strong same way.

Ongle ting is dem still cyaaan cook curried goat, mebbie it is because Jamaican men went to work there and dem nain know how fi cook...but mi digress... </div></div>

i know some of the j'can descent ones who can cook throw down with the cooking- taste just like yard food; never had curried goat from a panamanian though; i don't even know if they cook that over there

[Gen]

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how does this compare to the treatment of prisoners in JA ? anybody know ?

[Sinco01]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Littleman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="color: #000099"><span style="font-weight: bold">A lot of Jamaicans went there to build the canal, a long time ago, some remained to become Panamanians. I wonder what happened to them??

I met a Cuban girl once, who said her grandfather was Jamaican by birth, and she took me to meet him. She recognized my accent, as I spoke among a group of people, even though she had never been to Jamaica. I suppose it meant something to the old man, to hear an accent that he hadn't heard in a long time.

Then there was the Cuban gentleman I met also, who spoke fluent Spanish, but country-style patois. If you ever heard him speak English, you'd swear he was a real country-man from yard...</span></span> </div></div>

My Grand Mother &amp; Grand Father met and married in Cuba ..
all their kids were born there ..
including my Dad(RIP)

When they returned to Jamaica ..
My Grand Mothers' other sister and her Husband stayed ..
so i got cousins somewhere over there ..
i hear it is a town where most of the people talk patois ..
can't remember the name ..
but my Dad told me once