Michael Jackson died

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Michael Jackson DEAD

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: monk</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Billie Jean (1983)

This is the video that changed history - the first video by a black artist to be aired on MTV.
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BUT ANY MOUTHBREATHER CAN SEE IT WAS NOT THE FIRST VIDEO BY A BLACK ARTISTE TO BE AIRED ON MTV. WE KNOW THAT THIS STATEMENT IS NOT TRUE!!!! PROVABLY!

It was not the first. I already listed all the black artistes who were having their videos played. Do you dispute that those acts had their videos on MTV?

How do you explain that! Where is the proof MTV was threatened? That they 'refused' the video? </div></div> Just as true as when you said that WACKO JaCKO was before The King of Pop. Only that the &quot;King of pop&quot; was all of 10 years before.

Yes lying mouth breather can say any thing.

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Michael Jackson DEAD

Billie Jeamn was the first music video by a black artisi played on MTV in the regular rotation.
And it had the highest vewership too.

[rudemonk]

Re: Michael Jackson DEAD

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No monk, <span style="font-weight: bold">we</span> are no...</div></div>

Doc, meant to ask you...who is this 'we' you are talking about, referring to yourself in the plural like that...has me concerned.

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Michael Jackson DEAD

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: monk</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No monk, <span style="font-weight: bold">we</span> are no...</div></div>

Doc, meant to ask you...who is this 'we' you are talking about, referring to yourself in the plural like that...has me concerned. </div></div> Oh so you don't tyhink ther is a 'we'?
Well you will find out when it's important.

[Tropicana]

Re: Michael Jackson DEAD

Man what have I started. Please continue the discussion about racism in the media here:

http://www.jamaicans.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&amp;Number=998900&amp;#Post998900

[rudemonk]

Re: Michael Jackson DEAD

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Billie Jeamn was the first music video by a black artisi played on MTV in the regular rotation.
And it had the highest vewership too. </div></div>

Here we shift the goal posts.

So now 'we' are adding something about 'regular' rotation, whatever that actually means is anybody's guess. How do you define 'regular' because as I recall it was basically all regular except for a countdown chart. We are not quite saying the same thing anymore. Or do you refer to your arm as your leg because it is all part of the body.

Well it was all 'regular' rotation in those days as far as I can remember. There were no special segments or special shows...didn't that happen with 120 Minutes and Yo! MTV Raps, when videos were put into special segments. Still we see no Japanese videos. Although I think Shonen Knife played TRL.

None of the other videos that predated Billie Jean were obscure. They all ran all throughout the day, as regular programming. Did you watch MTV? You stated Billie Jean was the first. Now you are adding something which your article did not include. I think you stand corrected, once again.

So now you belittle the other artistes contribution to the genre, and Rock It was definitely of significance, winning or nominated for multiple awards by the very same racist network in discussion...let me guess, Eddie Grant, Donna Summer, Herbie Hancock, Musical Youth, they all 'bowed' right? And Rick James was trying very hard to bow. Imagine if his vid had made it on!

It's ludicrous, as soon as someone opposes your view or pokes a hole through your statement that you could drive a frakking truck through, that's the standard response...

Or it just serves your purpose to ignore the facts I am raising because I don't see where you said the why that these other artistes were having their videos played on MTV.

[rudemonk]

Re: Michael Jackson DEAD

RUH ROH!!! A different Jackson was actually the first on MTV.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1485838/20040318/index.jhtml?headlines=true

J.J. Jackson, One Of MTV's First VJs, Dies At Age 62
Jackson suffered apparent heart attack.
By Shaheem Reid, with additional reporting by Curtis Waller and Jennifer Vineyard
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J.J. Jackson, remembered as one of the first faces of MTV, died Wednesday night in Los Angeles of an apparent heart attack, according to friends and former business associates. He was 62.

Jackson helped define the term &quot;VJ&quot; as one of the first on-air personalities on MTV when the channel launched in 1981. During his five-year tenure with the network, Jackson interviewed some of the top names of the day and was part of some key music milestones. Jackson covered the 1985 Live Aid benefit concert in London and helped to &quot;unmask&quot; Kiss during a 1982 interview. He also hosted the debut episode of MTV's long-running &quot;120 Minutes&quot; in 1986, and brought music titans like Robert Plant and Pete Townshend to the then-fledgling channel.

MTV released a statement Thursday (March 18), mourning the loss of one of its beloved alumni and reflecting on his immense contribution to the station.

&quot;J.J. Jackson's deep passion for music, his ease and good humor on air, and his welcoming style really set the tone for the early days of MTV. He was a big part of the channel's success and we are sure he is in the music section of heaven, with lots of his friends and heroes. We are fortunate to have had him as a part of the MTV family. He will be greatly missed.&quot;

Mark Goodman, another of the original VJs who helped blaze trails with Jackson in the '80s, said he was floored when he heard the news. &quot;I was at home, I actually got a call from Martha Quinn,&quot; Goodman said Thursday from his home in Los Angeles. &quot;I almost couldn't understand what she was saying, she was so upset.&quot;

Goodman said that even though the on-air tenure of MTV's original fab five ended almost two decades ago, they remained a tight-knit group.

&quot;I think the kind of bond I had with J.J., the original five of us, it's kind of like soldiers who share a foxhole,&quot; Goodman said. &quot;It's a bond that has only gotten deeper through the years. It's worse than a family member dying. It's hard to comprehend. None of us would have expected it. It's too soon. It wasn't supposed to happen now. He's too young. It's kind of scary.

&quot;I knew he a had a bad heart,&quot; Goodman added. &quot;He had heart surgery a couple of years ago, but he was in great shape, he'd lost weight. He was in a great state of mind, feeling really positive about what was going on. I just saw him last week.&quot;

Goodman said the two were about to be co-workers again, at Sirius satellite radio. Goodman already has a position there and was looking forward to his friend J.J. starting soon. He said according to the information he received, Jackson was traveling home Wednesday night after having dinner with a friend when he suffered the heart attack.

&quot;He was driving. Typical of J.J., he didn't even hurt anybody,&quot; Goodman said. &quot;He was somehow able to ease his foot off the gas. He eased his car over to the side of the road. By the time the paramedics got there, they could not revive him there or the hospital either.&quot;

Goodman still has great memories of the man he says used to be the butt of some practical jokes on air, but who always laughed and loved to have a good time.

&quot;J.J. was really a gentle man,&quot; he remembered. &quot;He was smart. As I think of him, I think of him laughing. The guy had this huge laugh. He was a rabid music fan. Rod Stewart was a friend of his, guys in Led Zeppelin were friends of his. He championed these bands early on when they were kind of just getting going. He did Bruce Springsteen's first television interview. J.J. was a great guy. For the five of us, he was the wise DJ. He was the guy who had been through it all and was able to always put a mature perspective to things. He wound up handling the spotlight that was thrust on us better than any of us.&quot;

Besides his endeavors in television, Jackson also logged a thick résumé in radio. Prior to his MTV days, Jackson was a rock-radio staple, first at WBCN-FM in Boston, and later at a few stations in Los Angeles. His voice even made it to the big screen, as a DJ in the 1976 movie &quot;Car Wash.&quot; After his VJ days, Jackson returned to radio in the Los Angeles area.

On Thursday (March 18), Paul Goldstein, program director of L.A.'s KTWV-FM, said &quot;J.J.'s tenure with the station ended just six months ago. He was a wonderful man and will be very missed.&quot;

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Michael Jackson DEAD

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: monk</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Billie Jeamn was the first music video by a black artisi played on MTV in the regular rotation.
And it had the highest vewership too. </div></div>

Here we shift the goal posts.

So now 'we' are adding something about 'regular' rotation, whatever that actually means is anybody's guess. How do you define 'regular' because as I recall it was basically all regular except for a countdown chart. We are not quite saying the same thing anymore. Or do you refer to your arm as your leg because it is all part of the body.

Well it was all 'regular' rotation in those days as far as I can remember. There were no special segments or special shows...didn't that happen with 120 Minutes and Yo! MTV Raps, when videos were put into special segments. Still we see no Japanese videos. Although I think Shonen Knife played TRL.

None of the other videos that predated Billie Jean were obscure. They all ran all throughout the day, as regular programming. Did you watch MTV? You stated Billie Jean was the first. Now you are adding something which your article did not include. I think you stand corrected, once again.

So now you belittle the other artistes contribution to the genre, and Rock It was definitely of significance, winning or nominated for multiple awards by the very same racist network in discussion...let me guess, Eddie Grant, Donna Summer, Herbie Hancock, Musical Youth, they all 'bowed' right? And Rick James was trying very hard to bow. Imagine if his vid had made it on!

It's ludicrous, as soon as someone opposes your view or pokes a hole through your statement that you could drive a frakking truck through, that's the standard response...

Or it just serves your purpose to ignore the facts I am raising because I don't see where you said the why that these other artistes were having their videos played on MTV.
</div></div>Th eJapanese did not spend centuries inthe USA with laws that forbade their economic uploftment. The Japanese did not die for civilrights. what I am talkingabout is rights that thousands of blacks including Jamaicans during world war 2 in a military camp in Florida were lynched, and shot to death for.

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Michael Jackson DEAD

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: monk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">RUH ROH!!! A different Jackson was actually the first on MTV.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1485838/20040318/index.jhtml?headlines=true

J.J. Jackson, One Of MTV's First VJs, Dies At Age 62
Jackson suffered apparent heart attack.
By Shaheem Reid, with additional reporting by Curtis Waller and Jennifer Vineyard
Views 10,859
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J.J. Jackson, remembered as one of the first faces of MTV, died Wednesday night in Los Angeles of an apparent heart attack, according to friends and former business associates. He was 62.

Jackson helped define the term &quot;VJ&quot; as one of the first on-air personalities on MTV when the channel launched in 1981. During his five-year tenure with the network, Jackson interviewed some of the top names of the day and was part of some key music milestones. Jackson covered the 1985 Live Aid benefit concert in London and helped to &quot;unmask&quot; Kiss during a 1982 interview. He also hosted the debut episode of MTV's long-running &quot;120 Minutes&quot; in 1986, and brought music titans like Robert Plant and Pete Townshend to the then-fledgling channel.

MTV released a statement Thursday (March 18), mourning the loss of one of its beloved alumni and reflecting on his immense contribution to the station.

&quot;J.J. Jackson's deep passion for music, his ease and good humor on air, and his welcoming style really set the tone for the early days of MTV. He was a big part of the channel's success and we are sure he is in the music section of heaven, with lots of his friends and heroes. We are fortunate to have had him as a part of the MTV family. He will be greatly missed.&quot;

Mark Goodman, another of the original VJs who helped blaze trails with Jackson in the '80s, said he was floored when he heard the news. &quot;I was at home, I actually got a call from Martha Quinn,&quot; Goodman said Thursday from his home in Los Angeles. &quot;I almost couldn't understand what she was saying, she was so upset.&quot;

Goodman said that even though the on-air tenure of MTV's original fab five ended almost two decades ago, they remained a tight-knit group.

&quot;I think the kind of bond I had with J.J., the original five of us, it's kind of like soldiers who share a foxhole,&quot; Goodman said. &quot;It's a bond that has only gotten deeper through the years. It's worse than a family member dying. It's hard to comprehend. None of us would have expected it. It's too soon. It wasn't supposed to happen now. He's too young. It's kind of scary.

&quot;I knew he a had a bad heart,&quot; Goodman added. &quot;He had heart surgery a couple of years ago, but he was in great shape, he'd lost weight. He was in a great state of mind, feeling really positive about what was going on. I just saw him last week.&quot;

Goodman said the two were about to be co-workers again, at Sirius satellite radio. Goodman already has a position there and was looking forward to his friend J.J. starting soon. He said according to the information he received, Jackson was traveling home Wednesday night after having dinner with a friend when he suffered the heart attack.

&quot;He was driving. Typical of J.J., he didn't even hurt anybody,&quot; Goodman said. &quot;He was somehow able to ease his foot off the gas. He eased his car over to the side of the road. By the time the paramedics got there, they could not revive him there or the hospital either.&quot;

Goodman still has great memories of the man he says used to be the butt of some practical jokes on air, but who always laughed and loved to have a good time.

&quot;J.J. was really a gentle man,&quot; he remembered. &quot;He was smart. As I think of him, I think of him laughing. The guy had this huge laugh. He was a rabid music fan. Rod Stewart was a friend of his, guys in Led Zeppelin were friends of his. He championed these bands early on when they were kind of just getting going. He did Bruce Springsteen's first television interview. J.J. was a great guy. For the five of us, he was the wise DJ. He was the guy who had been through it all and was able to always put a mature perspective to things. He wound up handling the spotlight that was thrust on us better than any of us.&quot;

Besides his endeavors in television, Jackson also logged a thick résumé in radio. Prior to his MTV days, Jackson was a rock-radio staple, first at WBCN-FM in Boston, and later at a few stations in Los Angeles. His voice even made it to the big screen, as a DJ in the 1976 movie &quot;Car Wash.&quot; After his VJ days, Jackson returned to radio in the Los Angeles area.

On Thursday (March 18), Paul Goldstein, program director of L.A.'s KTWV-FM, said &quot;J.J.'s tenure with the station ended just six months ago. He was a wonderful man and will be very missed.&quot; </div></div> What is the name of his <span style="font-weight: bold">music video</span> that they played before Michael jackson??
And I am holding my breathwaiting fior the answer too.

[jah_yout]

Re: Michael Jackson DEAD

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: monk</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> </div></div>

monk- that picture worth more than a million words

[rudemonk]

Re: Michael Jackson DEAD

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What is the name of his <span style="font-weight: bold">music video</span> that they played before Michael jackson??
And I am holding my breathwaiting fior the answer too. </div></div>

Why would MTV play Herbie Hancock and award his song multiple times, Donna Summer, Eddie Grant, Musical Youth...is Tina Turner NOT Black? All of these artistes were <span style="font-style: italic">before</span> Michael Jackson.

As usual, you can't answer the point being raised.

Why don't they count?

The point of showing JJ Jackson is obvious. Why would he be hired, <span style="font-style: italic">as one of only five original VJs</span> in the first place...? Wouldn't they have been better off with an all white VJ cast. What on earth were those racist bastards thinking by hiring an actual flesh and blood black man to represent their brand new music television station.

[rudemonk]

Re: Michael Jackson DEAD

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: monk</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> </div></div>

monk- that picture worth more than a million words

</div></div>

yeah man. he posted a few on his profile, but this one is the best quality.

it's nice to see a real shot and I'm glad the photographer took the time to scan them in.

[Tropicana]

Re: Michael Jackson DEAD

Monk. I'm really not sure where you are coming from. Anyway, I've started a new thread about MTV. Please meet me over there.

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Michael Jackson DEAD

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: monk</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What is the name of his <span style="font-weight: bold">music video</span> that they played before Michael jackson??
And I am holding my breathwaiting fior the answer too. </div></div>

Why would MTV play Herbie Hancock and award his song multiple times, Donna Summer, Eddie Grant, Musical Youth...is Tina Turner NOT Black? All of these artistes were <span style="font-style: italic">before</span> Michael Jackson.

As usual, you can't answer the point being raised.

Why don't they count?

The point of showing JJ Jackson is obvious. Why would he be hired, <span style="font-style: italic">as one of only five original VJs</span> in the first place...? Wouldn't they have been better off with an all white VJ cast. What on earth were those racist bastards thinking by hiring an actual flesh and blood black man to represent their brand new music television station.

</div></div>Look Name the herbie Hancock Music vodeos tha twas played on MTV?
Not one of the black artists you named had any music videos on MTV before Michael Jackson. You still have not named one music video by any one of those you posted thatwas played on MTV before Michael Jackson. The game you are playing canonly be against idiots,a nd ther are quite a few in teh world still so you still have options. Otherowse you would be simply wasting the money of your employers..

[Tuff Gong]

Re: Michael Jackson DEAD

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: monk</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No monk, <span style="font-weight: bold">we</span> are no...</div></div>

Doc, meant to ask you...who is this 'we' you are talking about, referring to yourself in the plural like that...has me concerned. </div></div> Oh so you don't tyhink ther is a 'we'?
Well you will find out when it's important. </div></div>

<span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">LOL</span>!