R u offended?....at what r why not, depending on ur take?

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: misplaced indignation

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Humano</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">all we need is equal treatment. Is that too much for a majority black country to ask?</div></div>

We do nothing to advance Jamaica's standing if our best argument is that the ills of other Caribbean islands be similarly highlighted. </div></div>

as an analogy , does the fight for civil rights not ask that all races have their flaws similarly highlighted ...u know, at the core , i.e. </div></div>What is at the core of those type pf reasonnong is at the core of why blacks cannot advance.
And why should we not expect a break from those who are responsible for getting us here?

It is the same story that came from the black elite during the civil rights march. they said blacks should start behaving civilized before the should expectequailty too. what is new??

[evanovitch]

Re: misplaced indignation

&quot;core&quot; vs &quot;constitution&quot; ... heart vs trumpcard

[Dyoll_73]

Re: misplaced indignation

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">&quot;core&quot; vs &quot;constitution&quot; ... heart vs trumpcard </div></div>

[evanovitch]

Re: misplaced indignation

pon it fi awhile ..

[uswe]

Re: misplaced indignation

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: uswe</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

As I said before, our anger is largely misplaced. My anger is not at &quot;Chevah&quot; regardless of his motivations. Would we have felt better about his documentary if he had mentioned Trinidad's high homicidal rate, and societal inequalities in Barbados? </div></div>So if this should be a personal situation , and you and your buddies were involved in an infraction and you were the only one charged and sent to prison, that would be OK??
Yes? </div></div>

Good Doc, so do you mean that you would have been satisfied if we, as in all the islands, had all been charged and sent to prison? </div></div>Who said anything about satisfaction?
all we need is equal treatment. Is that too much for a majority black country to ask?
doe it mean that because we expect equal treatment we are interested in others being punished/
why couldn't you see the option of since the majority is excused it would be reasonable for that treatment to be issued to all parties?
Or if all of you do it all should get equal treatment?/
No?We should still keep accepting unequal treatment?
And i know it is not because of any other reason but we are just cry babies.
Right?

Run that by mi again Good Doc?...then again don't bother!

[Tuff Gong]

Re: MIggle

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Panajar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">b]The mostly none black puppet masters not going fe dat. [/b] </div></div>

Who are they?

[Tuff Gong]

Re: R u offended?....at what r why not, depending on ur take?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: andronian2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
However, our islands were broken societies to begin with.
They got their starts in genocide, slavery and economic exploitation initiated by the now august and fit to judge Europeans who also almost blew up the world twice.
While we cannot be absolved of all responsibility for our problems there are mitigating factors in play.
Thus, I still think the Brits are the least justified in criticizing our state with a certain self-righteous contempt since if the 300 (!) long years of their rule had been in our interest we would have found it difficult to undo in 47. </div></div>

LOL I guess it had to criticize when you straddle all sides I have to say though <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">BS</span>.
I have many examples for you.

Barbados, Bahamas, Singapore, Japan, Antigua, countries that have come out of the crucible slavery, colonialism, wars and/or violence and is not only doing better than Jamaica but way better.
We needed not to have reinvented the wheel to acknowledge our history and channel it into something positive.

[Tuff Gong]

Re: misplaced indignation

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Humano</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">all we need is equal treatment. Is that too much for a majority black country to ask?</div></div>

We do nothing to advance Jamaica's standing if our best argument is that the ills of other Caribbean islands be similarly highlighted. </div></div>

The whole thing is about mis-placed priorities and fake outrage.
The only question we need to ask is did he get it right about Jamaica?
If he did get it right whom should we blame?
Should it be the makers of a TV Documentary or should it be the men and women we pay to run our country.

A private TV Outfit makes a documentary/TV Show/whatever and suddenly the British Government wants to re-enslave Jamaicans?
This is joke!

[Tuff Gong]

Re: misplaced indignation


LOL can you imagine <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">Chevah</span> saying this?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have always found Montego bay to be a 'shacky' town . with the absence of simple infrastructure like sidewalk for the most part anyway.
How much worse can it go? It is not going to be West Kingston any time soon!!
but the Chinese businesses usually have a way with completely ignoring averything community that is not their exclusively. And take it personallywhenthey are asked to do something. they sem to bekiev that the city is suoooe to do more than is normally the perview of the cuty. and also think thatthe city has no authority to demand certain level of community pride. </div></div>

This is a prime example of Jamaican hypocrisy and compartmentalization even in the same time frame.

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: misplaced indignation

If that is the best example you can find, you drawing at straw. I t id a big difference with saying somthing is there and claiming as if this is where the worst of it is and the best can be found elsewhere, when it is common to all the places. We were discussing montegobay as a topic. i was not comparing it with anywhere else, neither was i making a statement that is not so.
you treat this place as if it is a personal page. the only subject you are intrested in are the posters.<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
LOL can you imagine <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">Chevah</span> saying this?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have always found Montego bay to be a 'shacky' town . with the absence of simple infrastructure like sidewalk for the most part anyway.
How much worse can it go? It is not going to be West Kingston any time soon!!
but the Chinese businesses usually have a way with completely ignoring averything community that is not their exclusively. And take it personallywhenthey are asked to do something. they sem to bekiev that the city is suoooe to do more than is normally the perview of the cuty. and also think thatthe city has no authority to demand certain level of community pride. </div></div>

This is a prime example of Jamaican hypocrisy and compartmentalization even in the same time frame. </div></div>

[Tuff Gong]

Re: misplaced indignation

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If that is the best example you can find, </div></div>Nope there are other good ones or better, I am busy collating them.
I think it is a very good example of hypocritical Jamaican though!

[Panajar]

Re: MIggle

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Panajar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">b]The mostly none black puppet masters not going fe dat. [/b] </div></div>

Who are they? </div></div>

People like the one dem dat this article talk bout.

&quot;There seems to be racism in the Private Sector. Lloyd B. Smith, a columnist for The Observer and publisher of Western Mirror, claims that there is <span style="font-weight: bold">no black person in the PSOJ Hall</span> of Fame. I have not read any denial by the organisation. Why a Lester Spaulding of RJR Group or a Neville Blythe of UGI and CVM groups could not be there? Have they not satisfied the criteria? &quot; Taken from the gleaner

[Tuff Gong]

Re: MIggle

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Panajar</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Panajar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">b]The mostly none black puppet masters not going fe dat. [/b] </div></div>

Who are they? </div></div>

People like the one dem dat this article talk bout.

&quot;There seems to be racism in the Private Sector. Lloyd B. Smith, a columnist for The Observer and publisher of Western Mirror, claims that there is <span style="font-weight: bold">no black person in the PSOJ Hall</span> of Fame. I have not read any denial by the organisation. Why a Lester Spaulding of RJR Group or a Neville Blythe of UGI and CVM groups could not be there? Have they not satisfied the criteria? &quot; Taken from the gleaner </div></div>

Ok!
Well those are Private folks that are why it is called the Private Sector Organization of Jamaica, they are not the Government Of Jamaica.
We pay the GOJ, not the PSOJ.
As much as the <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">P</span>rivilege <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">S</span>ons (and Daughters) <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">O</span>f <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">J</span>amaica have power if they become puppeteers the blame should be laid at the feet of the ones we pay, not the ones who may or may not take advantage and game the system.

Just a note but it does not take away from what <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">Labba Mout Smith </span>had to say above. The man is known race-baiting hack.

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: MIggle

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ok!
Well those are Private folks that are why it is called the Private Sector Organization of Jamaica, they are not the Government Of Jamaica.
We pay the GOJ, not the PSOJ.
As much as the <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">P</span>rivilege <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">S</span>ons (and Daughters) <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">O</span>f <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">J</span>amaica have power if they become puppeteers the blame should be laid at the feet of the ones we pay, not the ones who may or may not take advantage and game the system.

Just a note but it does not take away from what <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">Labba Mout Smith </span>had to say above. The man is known race-baiting hack.
</div></div> The ones we pay could not be elected unless they were
funded and supported by the the member s of that organization.
They use their ownership and control of the media to break down those who they cannot control.
So we only get those who they allow to be elected. they are th emost powerful <span style="font-weight: bold">super garrison </span>in the country. The only politicians that have any luck against them aretyhose that are supported by garrison constituencies.

[Tuff Gong]

Re: MIggle

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> The ones we pay could not be elected unless they were
funded and supported by the the member s of that organization.
They use their ownership and control of the media to break down those who they cannot control.
So we only get those who they allow to be elected. they are th emost powerful <span style="font-weight: bold">super garrison </span>in the country. The only politicians that have any luck against them aretyhose that are supported by garrison constituencies. </div></div>

No matter what the PSOJ and the lackeys in the media are not voted in by the rate and tax paying citizens of Jamaica, we can't fire them or hold them legally accountable.
So merely reporting this is of no consequence unless we are going to hold the ones elected to Office to their sworn duty.