Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits

[Suesumba]

Re: Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">stick to running around naked in the forest </div></div>
heh

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Derek:

You have never died.
You have never spoken anyone who has.
You don't have a piece of verified evidence of the reality of death on your coffee table.
Hey death probably does...no

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come again doc

redraw.... </div></div> Well it is like if you can't show proof acceptable to the inquisitor you don't have a case. It is like proving you are feeling pain and not feigning it

[Derek]

Re: Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Derek:

You have never died.
You have never spoken anyone who has.
You don't have a piece of verified evidence of the reality of death on your coffee table.
Hey death probably does...no

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come again doc

redraw.... </div></div> Well it is like if you can't show proof acceptable to the inquisitor you don't have a case. It is like proving you are feeling pain and not feigning it </div></div>

I haven't seen any proof of anything. Neither has Witchy.

[f0rTyLeGz]

Re: Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My source told me man went to the moon in the 1980s. I'm inclined to believe him because, after corroboration, he is in-the-know, credible and everything else he tells me on a myriad of subjects, make sense.</div></div>
Your reply about your source that you have confidence in got me thinking about those days, and your appeal to authority.

Back in the 60's power was in the hands of the Great Generation. Those men and women who had fought in WW2 and grown up during the depression. After the war, society had suffered a decade of fear and introspection with the atom bomb and communism. Around the time Sputnik went up, society opened up. Rock and roll, peace, dream big. But those guys who were in charge of the Apollo Project, those men who did the first test flights, and gathered the brains, the science, and hands, together to put a man on the Moon, would never have allowed their whole careers be corrupted, by lying about what really happened.

[Derek]

Re: Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f0rTyLeGz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">would never have allowed their whole careers be corrupted, by lying about what really happened. </div></div>

If you found out that your company was involved in some kind of heavy fraud, would you speak out and risk losing your livelihood, or keep quiet and collect your salary?

Have you ever spoken to a Russian about Apollo? EVERY one I've ever mentioned this to says the moon landing was a load of balls.

Maybe their media provides different content to ours. But I'm not saying their information is correct either.

[f0rTyLeGz]

Re: Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f0rTyLeGz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">would never have allowed their whole careers be corrupted, by lying about what really happened. </div></div>

If you found out that your company was involved in some kind of heavy fraud, would you speak out and risk losing your livelihood, or keep quiet and collect your salary?

Have you ever spoken to a Russian about Apollo? EVERY one I've ever mentioned this to says the moon landing was a load of balls.

Maybe their media provides different content to ours. But I'm not saying their information is correct either. </div></div>
If I found out that a company was involved with was involved in heavy fraud, I would expose it rather than continue to collect a salary. And with the Apollo program there were thousands of honorable men. That's my point. They weren't just collecting salaries. They had been to war. They had put their lives on the line. They sure as hell werent going to pretend they had sent men to the Moon for a paycheck.

The Russians would have exposed a fraud if the could. They would love to have done that. Not to mention anyone in the press... we do have a free press in the U.S.

[jah_yout]

Re: Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f0rTyLeGz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My source told me man went to the moon in the 1980s. I'm inclined to believe him because, after corroboration, he is in-the-know, credible and everything else he tells me on a myriad of subjects, make sense.</div></div>
Your reply about your source that you have confidence in got me thinking about those days, and your appeal to authority.

Back in the 60's power was in the hands of the Great Generation. Those men and women who had fought in WW2 and grown up during the depression. After the war, society had suffered a decade of fear and introspection with the atom bomb and communism. Around the time Sputnik went up, society opened up. Rock and roll, peace, dream big. But those guys who were in charge of the Apollo Project, those men who did the first test flights, and gathered the brains, the science, and hands, together to put a man on the Moon, would never have allowed their whole careers be corrupted, by lying about what really happened.
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what about the astronauts that were killed? suspicious (even his wife agreed)...
what about the fact neil armstrong never gave any interviews? weird

it sounds silly but the most striking thing to me was when they asked them if they saw stars &amp; they couldn't agree or remember if they did...
this blew me away;
also the films of the lunar module taking off from the moon looks so completely fake it's not even funny;

to this day no manned flight has gone as far as the van-allen radiation belt...if it is so harmless, why is this?

i can't prove they didn't but they have not proved to me they have;
the clip of the astronaut getting up without any help is pretty damning too...i posted the video earlier in this thread

[jah_yout]

Re: Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: f0rTyLeGz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The Russians would have exposed a fraud if the could. They would love to have done that. Not to mention anyone in the press... we do have a free press in the U.S. </div></div>

aaah- yes; if they could;

but what if they couldn't?
after reaching orbit (they did go into orbit but that doesn't prove they went to the moon) the russians didn't have the technology to track the craft at that time- there weren't many sattelites;
with today's technology they could go and have it verified by international space teams..
so why do they refuse?
they sent somethig to mars to collect samples...isn't the moon much closer?
certainly they could go back &amp; view all the rquipment they left up there...even those lunar jeeps/atv's -they could bring those back considering they cost around $60 mil each

[remo]

Re: Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Derek:

You have never died.
You have never spoken anyone who has.
You don't have a piece of verified evidence of the reality of death on your coffee table.
Hey death probably does...no

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Sorry this is just dumb

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: remo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Derek:

You have never died.
You have never spoken anyone who has.
You don't have a piece of verified evidence of the reality of death on your coffee table.
Hey death probably does...no

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Sorry this is just dumb </div></div>Expect a blind person to say this are black too. We can only use what we have.That is all you are limited to, sorry.

[f0rTyLeGz]

Re: Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">what about the astronauts that were killed? suspicious (even his wife agreed)...
what about the fact neil armstrong never gave any interviews? weird

it sounds silly but the most striking thing to me was when they asked them if they saw stars &amp; they couldn't agree or remember if they did...
this blew me away;
also the films of the lunar module taking off from the moon looks so completely fake it's not even funny;

to this day no manned flight has gone as far as the van-allen radiation belt...if it is so harmless, why is this?

i can't prove they didn't but they have not proved to me they have;
the clip of the astronaut getting up without any help is pretty damning too...i posted the video earlier in this thread </div></div>
I realize you arent going to change your mind. All of your questions have been answered. The little point Im trying to make is that the US poured over a trillion dollars in a few short years into getting men on the Moon. The men who were in charge of this endeavor were all from the Great Generation who had fought in WW2 and Korea. They had tremendous careers and a huge amount of money and hope and good will. There is no way that they would have exposed themselves, their legacy, or the reputation of the country, on a made for TV landing on the Moon.

[miaman]

Re: Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits

They really landed in the bauxite mine down hill fram Mandeville.

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: miaman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They really landed in the bauxite mine down hill fram Mandeville. </div></div> And I thought it was in the cockpit country they did it!!!

[Wahalla]

Re: Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits

The fct of the matter the basic engineering of getting to the moon is simple.. it is newtonian mechanics combined with Euclidian Calculus... I could do most of the basic calculations.. any average A'level physis student until the 80's did most of it... the most basic being the calculation for escape velocity.. it used to be a standard a'lvel question.. comparing this for various plannets..In A'level highr maths you calcuylate the trajectories....

Coomputing power ???? Log tables and slide rules.. doing calculations on a bit of paper.. engineers stll use a pad and pencil....

Rocket mechanics in simple momentun on which gravitational forces act on.. in fact the computing required is less difficult to fire a torpedo from a moving sub in WWII aiming it at moving ship.. In fact the under the islamic reneciance the calculations were already made..... look at the trajectories.....



So all that was left was rocketry Von Brawn deployment of the experimenat post VII rockets with the idea of multi stages could be done.... So getting to the moon aint that tough.. getting back that was the challenge.... the beauty was in the logistics... parking the lunar orbitter in space.. disposable components.... Here was teh main dificultty getting a fuel to burn in a non oxygen enviroment So they to give the lift off from the moon.. in space the correction by the use of jetted gasses can do course correction... but to fling they had to carry their own oxygen..


Te russians courl habe orbitted teh moon, they set out the week beofer and their rocket exploded... they did not have the technology for the lift off the ;ander off the moon.. they grabbed teh wrong germans ...

oh and there is a reason why the recordings went missing... the landing was supposed to be automated but the computer went down.. and they Neil Armstrong landed it manual... they over used fuel and there was some doubt wheret ther was a enough to do a lift off.. there was a basic cluster at the end... and the conversations were raterh tense... they were about to abort the lanfing in fact but because they were unsure about the Russia ns state of play they went ahead.. All of this is on the recod and it was released ten years ago...
You know what I think ??? to few people do basic mechanics... the maths are less complex than a snipers shot calculation....

Ohh and why the flag waved ??? it was on kitchen foil type material.....Jamaicas contribution to the space program.... it was made from yard dut!

the engineering is simpler that the engineering to seperate U238 from U236... or the engineering calculations to do the collasible foot ball configeration on fat boy... or getting the simulataneous explosions perfect in the first atomic bombs.. now teh engineering maths for that is pheonmial.. aand to do that by long land is beyond me....yet the manhatehn project happened and was successful....

what it required was 4% if the us buget for over three decades....

[WitchyOoman]

Re: Moon landing tapes got erased, NASA admits

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Witchy:
You have never been to the moon.
<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #CC0000">You have never met anyone who has.</span></span></div></div>
<span style="font-weight: bold">Well, now I can call you out as the bald-faced liar that you really are.</span>

Only stupid people tell bald-faced lies about that which they know could possibly backfire on them easily.

We knew Alan Shepard.

But you don't know who he is, right?
Of course you won't, since you don't know anybody who's walked on the moon. You can't know anybody who's walked on the moon, since you claim no one has.

I grew up knowing Pete Conrad, too. My father &amp; Pete grew up together, they were the same age. Pete was 3 1/2 months older than my father is... and my father is still alive, thank you very much.

I have said on j'com, from time to time, ever since I joined in 1998, that my father is a lifelong Philadelphian and was born October 17, 1930 -- so that isn't news here. I've always said I was raised in Philly. Dad went to Temple U, and I know I've said in the past here on j'com that that's how he knows Bill Cosby, who is almost 7 years youger than Dad. Dad - an old Temple U basketball player alumnus - was working on some Alumni sports scholarship fund (he was an accountant), and Bill earned that particular scholarship to Temple U... don't quote me, but I think it was the year I was born.

I personally knew Pete and Mr. Sheperd - and both of those men walked on the moon, despite your idiotically paranoid lies about the Apollo program.