hilary clinton flips out

[Suesumba]

‘My husband is NOT Secretary of State - I am!': Hillary Clinton's outburst at African student after week of Bill stealing limelight
By Mail Foreign Service

They may be hailed as Team Clinton.

But U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and her husband Bill, the former president, also have a knack for squabbling.

And so a week after Mr Clinton’s headline-grabbing trip to North Korea, Mrs Clinton has let the world know she won’t stand for her limelight being stolen any more.

‘My husband is not Secretary of State. I am,’ she raged yesterday after a translator made a mistake and asked what her partner felt about an international matter.

Mrs Clinton, who was speaking at a meeting in the Congolese capital Kinshasa during her first official tour of Africa, looked clearly rattled.

‘You want me to tell you what my husband thinks?’ she replied incredulously when the male student asked her what ‘Mr Clinton’ thought of World Bank concerns about a multibillion-dollar Chinese loan offer to the Democratic Republic of Congo.

‘If you want my opinion, I will tell you my opinion. I am not going to be channelling my husband.’

The question was left unanswered as the moderator of the event quickly moved on.

The translator should have asked what 'Mr Obama' thought as the student's question was actually about Barack Obama, not Bill Clinton.

Sidelined for weeks after she was injured during a fall this spring, Mrs Clinton returned to a flurry of speculation that she had been shoved to the side as a diplomatic force.

Commentators said she had been overshadowed by globe-trotting President Barack Obama, Vice President Joe Biden and a bevy of heavyweight special envoys assigned to the world’s critical hotspots.

Mrs Clinton launched into a series of high-profile speeches and television appearances. But just as she landed in Africa, her ambitious visit ran into stiff competition from her husband’s secret mission to North Korea.

He was praised for his role in freeing the two American journalists and talking with the regime’s leader, Kim Jong Il.

And if previous spats are anything to go by, the Clintons are certain to face further speculation about the state of their marriage.

Divorce rumours peaked in the 1990s when Mr Clinton was in the White House and faced accusations that he had an ‘improper relationship’ with secretary Monica Lewinsky.

Last year commentators speculated again after Mrs Clinton’s failed White House run was said to have been derailed by her husband’s intemperate outbursts.

Since then, however, But Mr Clinton had – until last week’s foreign foray - kept himself unnoticed and allowed his wife as much limelight as she could garner.

And over the last month she has been grabbing headlines with a major foreign policy address in Washington and travels to India and Thailand.

She is in the middle of a marathon 11-day tour of Africa, so far visiting seven nations.

Her gruelling schedule includes official meetings and private events that have kept her busy from sunrise to well after sunset.


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[ILP]

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mi sure daht deh translator finish.
no more big jobs fi dem

[evanovitch]

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bravo Hillary...indeed...next ting if u did gi him opinion dem woulda seh him a coach u in ur job....bravo indeed

[Blackstar*]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SueSumba</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-style: italic">The translator should have asked what 'Mr Obama' thought as the student's question was actually about Barack Obama, not Bill Clinton. </span> </div></div>From the description, it sounds like a slip of the tongue. She did well to correct the questioner, but it's not such a big deal that the media should start talking about a Clinton-Clinton rivalry.

[WitchyOoman]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlackStar</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SueSumba</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-style: italic">The translator should have asked what 'Mr Obama' thought as the student's question was actually about Barack Obama, not Bill Clinton. </span> </div></div>From the description, it sounds like a slip of the tongue. She did well to correct the questioner, but it's not such a big deal that the media should start talking about a Clinton-Clinton rivalry. </div></div>
Exactly. The media has to manufacture garbage these days? There isn't enough REAL news??

Believe me - I'm no Hillary Clinton fan... but <span style="font-weight: bold">the question <span style="text-decoration: underline">as it was posed to her</span></span> was pure rubbish that deserved the response it received. How is she supposed to know that a stupid translator messed up?! The question was asked and answered as the asking of it deserved. No more and no less.

Did unnu note how Clinton first stopped dead, and stared - assimilating what she heard, making certain she heard correctly, before she answered?
She paraphrased it, in disbelief, to make sure she got it right. (&quot;Are you asking ME what MY HUSBAND thinks ... ?!&quot
THEN she let loose with an answer that, while it contained sarcasm, was the absolute truth. It <span style="text-decoration: underline">is</span> SHE who is Secretary of State, not Bill.

Nor do I believe that the question was as innocent a mistake as the translator says.
But even if it was -- big deal. Stupid questions deserve just the kind of answer Clinton gave.

[Andrewnaqi]

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that woman is more than mad.
She knows she only got the job because of bill. How come she wasn't able to get the girls out of N Korea?
If she wasn't such a byatch she'd get better rezults.

damn man-she

[jah_yout]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WitchyOoman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlackStar</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SueSumba</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-style: italic">The translator should have asked what 'Mr Obama' thought as the student's question was actually about Barack Obama, not Bill Clinton. </span> </div></div>From the description, it sounds like a slip of the tongue. She did well to correct the questioner, but it's not such a big deal that the media should start talking about a Clinton-Clinton rivalry. </div></div>
Exactly. The media has to manufacture garbage these days? There isn't enough REAL news??

Believe me - I'm no Hillary Clinton fan... but <span style="font-weight: bold">the question <span style="text-decoration: underline">as it was posed to her</span></span> was pure rubbish that deserved the response it received. How is she supposed to know that a stupid translator messed up?! The question was asked and answered as the asking of it deserved. No more and no less.

Did unnu note how Clinton first stopped dead, and stared - assimilating what she heard, making certain she heard correctly, before she answered?
She paraphrased it, in disbelief, to make sure she got it right. (&quot;Are you asking ME what MY HUSBAND thinks ... ?!&quot
THEN she let loose with an answer that, while it contained sarcasm, was the absolute truth. It <span style="text-decoration: underline">is</span> SHE who is Secretary of State, not Bill.

Nor do I believe that the question was as innocent a mistake as the translator says.
But even if it was -- big deal. Stupid questions deserve just the kind of answer Clinton gave.
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i agree;

it was a stupid, sexist question &amp; it got the answer it deserved;
for the media this is par for the course; the controlled media is all about gossip &amp; spin &amp; pays very little attention to real news &amp; important issues;

like we know this story, but how many of us know why she is in the congo in the first place?

[Suesumba]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">why she is in the congo in the first place? </div></div>

don't know, why?

[jah_yout]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SueSumba</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">why she is in the congo in the first place? </div></div>

don't know, why? </div></div>

over the issue of rape;

the way rape has increasingly become a tool of war...

congo has had more killing &amp; rape than darfur but you never hear about it in the media

[loops]

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my understanding is that she is there to call attention to the horrific gender based violence that is being used as a tool of war.

[WitchyOoman]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
i agree;

it was a stupid, sexist question &amp; it got the answer it deserved;
for the media this is par for the course; the controlled media is all about gossip &amp; spin &amp; pays very little attention to real news &amp; important issues;

like we know this story, but how many of us know why she is in the congo in the first place? </div></div>
Rapes in Darfur, supposedly. At least that's what the official reason was given as.

Please don't tell me that you have a 'hidden agenda' reason, will ya?

[WitchyOoman]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SueSumba</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">why she is in the congo in the first place? </div></div>

don't know, why? </div></div>

over the issue of rape;

the way rape has increasingly become a tool of war...

congo has had more killing &amp; rape than darfur but you never hear about it in the media </div></div>
Thank heaven.

I thought you were about to come with a silly paranoid hidden aganda type of reason...

[Suesumba]

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thanks for the info, JY, loops and Wooman. just went and did some reading.

[St_Bess]

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Interview by Jaldeep Katwala of Radio Okapi


Hillary Rodham Clinton
Secretary of State
Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of the Congo

August 10, 2009

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QUESTION: (Inaudible) making the problem worse?

SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, there is no doubt that the ongoing conflict makes the problem worse. Unfortunately, we have seen in the late 20th century and now in this century a terrible trend of using sexual and gender-based violence as a tool of war to intimidate and demoralize populations and to force them to flee their homes.

And I think this is going to take a concerted effort from the Congolese Government as well as other governments in the region who have interests in the DRC. It’s going to take NGOs and civil society. It has to start with making sure that the military of the DRC does not engage in any sexual and gender-based violence, and there has to be no impunity for anyone who does, and there has to be an effort to cut off the funding for the militias and resolve the underlying political tensions in the east.

But sexual violence is a problem across the country, as it is in many countries, and there have to be stronger laws against domestic violence, against criminal rape that happens on the street of Kinshasa or any other city. There has to be strong prosecution and law enforcement and judiciary actions to make it clear that this is unacceptable, that there is no excuse for it. And that’s what I hope we will see.

QUESTION: And what in practical terms can the government of the United States do to help this problem?

SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, we are trying to do several things. We’re working, of course, with the United Nations and we’re the largest supporter of the United Nations peacekeeping forces in eastern Congo. And there was a report that just came out which said that the problems that might have existed before in terms of gender and sexual-based violence among UN troops has been cleaned up. We are working with President Kabila’s government and the Congolese military to try to train and imbue human rights and respect for the rights of women in the military. And of course, we are providing healing and health services to those women who are victims.

QUESTION: But in terms of the human rights record of the Congolese Government, how would you asses that?

SECRETARY CLINTON: It’s in desperate need of improvement. The Congolese Government, of course, came out of many years of war, and that is very destabilizing to societies and very often human rights are considered a luxury during a wartime. But there are no excuses any longer, and there has to be more expected from the government here. The United States and other countries, as well as the United Nations, stand ready to assist the government in taking actions to both promote human rights, including women’s rights, and to punish violators of human rights and women’s rights. But there needs to be much more action and a greater commitment from the government.

QUESTION: When people look at this country, they look at Chinese development here, they look at the roads that are being built, the hospitals that are being built as well. What in practical, concrete terms can the United States do on the ground that people here will recognize as being a contribution by the United States?

SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, it’s interesting because I’m aware of the commitment that China has made, and I think that building roads is a very important development goal for this country. But so is good governance. So is protecting and promoting human rights. So is building an independent judiciary, a free press, the institutions of democracy that will hold up over time. It’s important to build a free market, to stand against corruption, to ask for more transparency, and the United States has been working to achieve those goals.

It’s not either/or, and I’m aware that sometimes people can see the road more than they can see the protection for human rights. But you can have a country with roads that still deprives its people of human rights, that still has no economic development, so that there are no goods and services going down those roads that will actually help the people. So I think it has to be a comprehensive effort, and I believe the United States, with our help in education and health, is playing a very important role. And we are here to determine what else we could do.

QUESTION: What will you be saying to President Kabila tomorrow?

SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, I’ll be saying pretty much what I have said both at the town hall and in this interview, that President Obama would like to forge a new chapter in the relationship between the Congolese people and the American people, that I’m here to explore ways that we could work together, but that we believe strongly there must be an end to impunity, an end to corruption, more transparency and accountability; that the mineral and other natural resource riches of this country should be used for the benefit of the Congolese people, not for a very small group that have historically benefitted, not just for outside corporations or countries that extract the riches and leave with them without really putting back the commensurate investment in the country. And we think there’s a lot of areas where we could be helpful, and we’re going to explore whether that’s possible.

[jah_yout]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WitchyOoman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SueSumba</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

why she is in the congo in the first place? </div></div>

don't know, why? </div></div>

over the issue of rape;

the way rape has increasingly become a tool of war...

congo has had more killing &amp; rape than darfur but you never hear about it in the media </div></div>
Thank heaven.

I thought you were about to come with a silly paranoid hidden aganda type of reason...

not so fast- i didn't get the goods on her <span style="font-style: italic">real</span> reason yet , but i bet it has something to do with minerals