fiyah pon pink diplomacy

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: fiyah pon pink diplomacy

Just find one where police can legally beat or shoot people in the performance of their duty.

And then find one that have the death poenalty and you cool.

Oh is only one you looking for?

i thought you needed more.

One more thing, just because the constitution of a country dem something to be right does not make it so.

constitution s are simply agreed framework of rules of association.

They are created by the authors,who could be in any frame of mind.

[rudemonk]

Re: fiyah pon pink diplomacy

"Get Thee Behind Me Satan"


<span style="font-style: italic">pause</span>

[RcOmK]

Re: fiyah pon pink diplomacy

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...just because the constitution of a country dem something to be right does not make it so. </div></div>

hmm, so you're saying that the rights given to people of colour to vote in the United States, for example, <span style="color: #990000">isn't</span> necessarily <span style="color: #990000">a right</span>?

as usual yu no nuo we yu a chat se

[RcOmK]

Re: fiyah pon pink diplomacy

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Humano</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold">Calling for a law change to make an act legal even if it is violent is far from advocating violence.
Since every country has on their books violent acts that can be legally done against others.
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making such a comment is simply normal civilized interaction. </div></div>
... Criminalizing sexual behavior between consenting adults, however, violates the constitutional provision of freedom of association, which every civilized society has in place. And that's the nuance lost on you.

In any case, the difference between positive law and natural law usually revolves around the &quot;justice&quot; content - the latter incorporates principles of justice. A law may exist on the books and may even be duly enacted, but it does not mean that it is a just law. As Augustine of Hippo once famously said: &quot;<span style="font-style: italic">Lex iniusta non est lex</span>&quot; (&quot;An unjust law is no law at all.&quot. BTW, this has been the rallying cry of various civil disobedience movements over centuries, including the 20th century with Ghandi in India and the civil rights movement during the 60s. </div></div>

Bravo!

[blugiant]

Re: fiyah pon pink diplomacy

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: monk</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote=neutral]

tapp yu nansense cah yu knoo christians inn ja a bunn fiyah pon murderahs, rapists ann corruptshan. ja iss enforcinn da law ann communitee tandards cah buggerree iss duttee abnarmal sinntinn ann homosexualitee iss an abomination accardinn too dem religious beeleef </div></div>

what do you think they would have done upon seeing Yashua openly kiss another man. </div></div>

mii tink dat wass imm way aff bunninn fiyah pon judas. wat yu rellee tryinn fii sey bout yashua?

[blugiant]

Re: fiyah pon pink diplomacy

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Iron_Man</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neutral</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

a wey yu a sey dat countries wey bunn fiyah pon homosexuals ann homosexualitee natt civilized. mii guess yu tink moas aff de wurld natt civilized ann onlee oyinbo countrees ar civilized.

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I am saying that the people in these countries are ignorant. </div></div>

Indeed, VERY ignorant.

The hypocrisy of homophobic people of colour, especially, baffles me. They have the nerve (and ignorance) to discriminate against homosexuals, and to hate them based on something they can't change about themselves, but when the same is done to them, they are extremely offended and want justice. No mek no sens </div></div>

soo yu ave issue widd peeps wey doan bow like yu een nutral

peeps aff colors? soo iss yu iron man armah pink? sarree mii blakk ann mii natt inna color sintinn. soo yu ave issues widd peeps aff color? realitee sintinn nuh wann [censored] started aparthied inn south afrikka. nuh wan racist oyinbo tatchell wey target blakk jamaican dancehall artists fii trii fii push funnee agenda. yu read da artikkle wey mii poas wey funnee oyinbo a trii fii finance funnee agenda inn jamaica. mii guess dat natt racist wen oyinbo tried fii force dem abnarmal ann unnatural value pon ja

like itt ar natt oyinbo add fii outlaw buggeree inn ja cah oyinbo slave massah were/ar battymen


yu ear bout wat appen inn ja wen pink diplomacee met communitee tandards

[loops]

Re: fiyah pon pink diplomacy

<span style="font-size: 17pt">SNORE </span>

[blugiant]

Re: fiyah pon pink diplomacy

diss mekk mii laff.

mii guess yu wood tink cah mii advocate arminn more jamaicans fii reduce crime mii advocatinn violence fii a group aff jamaicans wey murder, rape, teef ann xxtort. wat mii advocatinn iss stronger laws ann more effective enforcement mean fii cantrol criminalitee inn ja. soo itt dissturb yu dat mii wood support oyinbo laws dat prohibitt buggeree. natt everee ting oyinbo didd wass wrang ann passinn buggeree laws fii restrict oyinbo homosexuals wass a good ting

yu knoo mii caan use de bible fii defend adulteree ann fornicators butt mii doan wear mii see annee defense fii homosexualitee. homosexualitee iss an abomination.

secular ting wey sey inn god we trust iss natt reallee secular


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Humano</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">funnee men caan change da laws aff men butt natt de laws aff god wey sey homosexualitee iss abomination. <span style="font-weight: bold">mii wandar iff iran still stone funnee peeps cah dat wood bee a good law fii adopt inn ja fii dem nastee abnarmals funnee peeps</span></div></div>

So we have you on record advocating violence against another group of Jamaicans. Isn't this a violation of board rules? Where are the moderators?

If the Bible is your guide, why stop at homosexuals, how about adulturers and fornicators, Sabbath breakers, why don't Jamaica just go ahead and enslave foreigners, for example?

BTW, going after the adulterers and fornicators in Jamaica would effectively wipe out - I would estimate - more than 80% of Jamaica's population.

A fierce anti-colonial such as yourself is also a fierce supporter of a colonial-era law that clearly violates Jamaica's constitution. The former colonial power has abandoned the silly law, but you still support the silly law in the former colony. Irony or hypocrisy - take your pick. If I'm not mistaken, you live in a veritable homosexual paradise, NY. Would you also call for a law in your state to kill such people?

Modern democracies are governed by secular laws and institutions and not the so-called &quot;laws of God.&quot; </div></div>

[blugiant]

Re: fiyah pon pink diplomacy

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: britisha</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Humano</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">funnee men caan change da laws aff men butt natt de laws aff god wey sey homosexualitee iss abomination. <span style="font-weight: bold">mii wandar iff iran still stone funnee peeps cah dat wood bee a good law fii adopt inn ja fii dem nastee abnarmals funnee peeps</span></div></div>

So we have you on record advocating violence against another group of Jamaicans. Isn't this a violation of board rules? Where are the moderators?

If the Bible is your guide, why stop at homosexuals, how about adulturers and fornicators, Sabbath breakers, why don't Jamaica just go ahead and enslave foreigners, for example?

BTW, going after the adulterers and fornicators in Jamaica would effectively wipe out - I would estimate - more than 80% of Jamaica's population.

A fierce anti-colonial such as yourself is also a fierce supporter of a colonial-era law that clearly violates Jamaica's constitution. The former colonial power has abandoned the silly law, but you still support the silly law in the former colony. Irony or hypocrisy - take your pick. If I'm not mistaken, you live in a veritable homosexual paradise, NY. Would you also call for a law in your state to kill such people?

Modern democracies are governed by secular laws and institutions and not the so-called &quot;laws of God.&quot; </div></div>

Ironic isn't it?

Dem soon bun dem 'an a fyah seh dem noh seh soh.. </div></div>

yu knoo mii doan tekk bakk chat ann mii neva advocate violence toward homosexuals. mii wass juss askinn iff stoninn wood bee a good law fii putt pon de book inn ja.

[blugiant]

Re: fiyah pon pink diplomacy

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Iron_Man</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...just because the constitution of a country dem something to be right does not make it so. </div></div>

hmm, so you're saying that the rights given to people of colour to vote in the United States, for example, <span style="color: #990000">isn't</span> necessarily <span style="color: #990000">a right</span>?

as usual yu no nuo we yu a chat se </div></div>

diss mekk mii laff

soo addar peeps caan juss vote butt dem affii give blakks de right too vote ann yu doan see y diss iss natt neccesarreelie a right

[blugiant]

Re: fiyah pon pink diplomacy

soo y yu doan snore wen oyinbo bunn fiyah pon ja? ar iss itt wen mii return fiyah

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: loops</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style="font-size: 17pt">SNORE </span> </div></div>




Homophobia in Jamaica
A vicious intolerance

Sep 17th 2009
From The Economist print edition
The politicians seem unperturbed by hate crimes

IT MAY have a laid-back image of reggae and Rastas, sun and sand. But for gays, Jamaica is closer to hell. The latest apparent victim of homophobia on the island was Britain’s honorary consul in Montego Bay, the tourist centre, strangled in bed at home on September 9th. A note denounced him as homosexual.

Openly gay people must contend with the constant fear of violence. The Jamaica Forum for Lesbians, All-Sexuals and Gays (J-FLAG), a pressure group, reports 33 cases of serious injuries from mob attacks on gays in 18 months. Two female couples were attacked and raped by men in recent weeks. Many attacks go unreported, partly because police do not always investigate them. In court a murder charge is likely to be reduced to manslaughter if the victim was gay and the defendant claims provocation, as happened with the killer of an Anglican priest stabbed in his vicarage in 2006.

Some Jamaican gays say the police are becoming more helpful. Lyrics threatening death to gays by popular dance-hall artists have become much less common since the Broadcasting Commission of Jamaica, a regulator, decided in February to block all “lewd” and violent content. These lyrics also attracted bans and fines abroad.

But this does not herald a serious outbreak of tolerance. What Jamaican law calls “the abominable crime of buggery” is punishable with up to ten years of hard labour; “gross indecency” merits up to two years. A reform of sex legislation is now before parliament. But under pressure from the churches, both government and opposition have taken pains to weed out any wording that might weaken the ban on gay sex.

The prime minister, Bruce Golding, told parliament that he would not yield to foreign pressure to liberalise the law. One of his backbenchers Ernest Smith called for J-FLAG to be outlawed, and gave warning that gays were infiltrating the police.

The violence is feeding a gay “brain drain”, with some of the brightest Jamaicans leaving for the United States or Canada. Even if they do not care about human rights, Jamaica’s politicians and its government might spare a thought for the impact of their intolerance on a chronically stagnant economy.


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[Dr.Dudd]

Re: fiyah pon pink diplomacy

Laff @ Gay brain drain.

[neutral]

Re: fiyah pon pink diplomacy

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

soo yu ave issue widd peeps wey doan bow like yu een nutral

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How yu know seh mi bow,a who tell yu,....I`m gonna have to have a good talk wid your mama next time I see her.

[bigbooie]

Re: fiyah pon pink diplomacy

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neutral</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

soo yu ave issue widd peeps wey doan bow like yu een nutral

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How yu know seh mi bow,a who tell yu,....I`m gonna have to have a good talk wid your mama next time I see her. </div></div>

?????? ohhh boy.

[neutral]

Re: fiyah pon pink diplomacy

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BIGGAHVIEW.</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: neutral</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

soo yu ave issue widd peeps wey doan bow like yu een nutral

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How yu know seh mi bow,a who tell yu,....I`m gonna have to have a good talk wid your mama next time I see her. </div></div>

?????? ohhh boy. </div></div>

?????? So what you ohh boying about big man,...what would be your reaction if I called you bowas to your face....??????

If him hear seh I bow then it must be his mumma who squealed ,..so mi seh,and I dont care who vex bout it.