obama racism strategy?

**kia027** · 09-21-2009, 01:26 PM

Re: obama racism strategy?

he is just not giving them the time of day. He is going about focusing on his list of issues and right now number 1 is passing the health care bill.

Did you see his interview with George Stephanopoulos Sunday morning?

**jah_yout** · 09-21-2009, 01:36 PM

Re: obama racism strategy?

it's nothing strange- it's just simple politics;

obama is not in a position to comment on racism as it would spell political doom...
(yawn)...
politics many times requires that simple obvious truths be denied or ignored for the sake of 'political' expediency;

carter can speak on it now that he is a private citizen, but he certainly could not have done so if still holding public office;
it's all basically a game- and the common people are the pawns

**jah_yout** · 09-21-2009, 01:39 PM

Re: obama racism strategy?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kia</div><div class="ubbcode-body">he is just not giving them the time of day. He is going about focusing on his list of issues and right now number 1 is passing the health care bill.

Did you see his interview with George Stephanopoulos Sunday morning? </div></div>

what health care bill?

it does not include public choice and is nothing more than a slight tweaking of the current system which treats healthcare as a money-making endeavor strictly for profit & enriching some at the expense of the many and of any moral fiber

**Panajar** · 09-21-2009, 01:39 PM

Re: obama racism strategy?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">it's nothing strange- it's just simple politics;

obama is not in a position to comment on racism as it would spell political doom...
(yawn)...
politics many times requires that simple obvious truths be denied or ignored for the sake of 'political' expediency;

carter can speak on it now that he is a private citizen, but he certainly could not have done so if still holding public office;
it's all basically a game- and the common people are the pawns </div></div>

**barosa** · 09-21-2009, 01:42 PM

Re: obama racism strategy?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">de nile

obama strateegee fe deal widd racism iss fii placate mzungu? even wen mzungu pint out dat obama racist critic ar beeinn racist, obama will look fii reasons fii deni racism. <span style="font-weight: bold">ave oonnoo eva see ar read obama sey sintinn wey mzungu doo iss racist?</span>

soo oonnoo cum tell mii wat obama strateegee fii deal widd racist mzungu? </div></div>
<span style="font-size: 14pt">No blakkgiant!</span>.... However, I would suggest you read the paragraph below borrowed from a posting in "International/Regional News" as my response to your views above...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Most educated blacks know that in order to get ahead or benefit in anyway in America, they have to thread lightly on racial matters, especially if they have benefitted materially from certain opportunities extended to them, whether given or fought for... It is understandable that just like many of their white peers, they have to be mindful that "what and how" they talk about "racism" can hurt them and destroy their future if they are not careful... <span style="font-weight: bold">Obama falls into that category and he would be a "fool"</span> to ignore what has been a long established tradition in American society...</div></div>
As we we often say in Jamaica, <span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-weight: bold">Sometimes, yu haffi play Fool fi ketch Wise.</span></span> ; a very "wise and appropriate" saying that guided many of us throughout our Lives...
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"At a time of universal deceit," wrote George Orwell, "telling the truth is a revolutionary act."

**kia027** · 09-21-2009, 01:45 PM

Re: obama racism strategy?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kia</div><div class="ubbcode-body">he is just not giving them the time of day. He is going about focusing on his list of issues and right now number 1 is passing the health care bill.

Did you see his interview with George Stephanopoulos Sunday morning? </div></div>

what health care bill?

it does not include public choice and is nothing more than a slight tweaking of the current system which treats healthcare as a money-making endeavor strictly for profit & enriching some at the expense of the many and of any moral fiber </div></div>

how do you know it does not include public choice? I know someone who is working with the Obama for America team and what they told me Saturday is that it is very much on the agenda

**blugiant** · 09-21-2009, 02:01 PM

Re: obama racism strategy?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kia</div><div class="ubbcode-body">he is just not giving them the time of day. He is going about focusing on his list of issues and right now number 1 is passing the health care bill.

Did you see his interview with George Stephanopoulos Sunday morning? </div></div>

butt imm iss givinn dem dii thyme aff de day. yu neva saw oww imm respanded too racist wilson chattinn bout imm lied butt imm revagnise racist wilson cancern. imm even came out widd a strangar stand pon illegal immigrants no healthcare cah aff wilson. imm respanded to rush, palin etc

imm paint immself inna carnar dat imm caan neva hanestlee respand too racist mzungu

**blugiant** · 09-21-2009, 02:06 PM

Re: obama racism strategy?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

what health care bill?

it does not include public choice and is nothing more than a slight tweaking of the current system which treats healthcare as a money-making endeavor strictly for profit & enriching some at the expense of the many and of any moral fiber </div></div>

10 Reasons African Americans Should March on Washington About Health Care
August should have been marked by black rage at the status quo—rather than white paranoia about change.

Never mind Joe Wilson and the tea baggers. You know who really ought to be breaking congressional decorum and marching on Washington about health care? Black people. We ought to be so angry about the disastrous health care system that we disrupt society at every level until it gets fixed.

Why? Well, don’t expect our post-race president to make the point, but nowhere are the festering wounds of race in America more visible than in our broken health care system. From cancer to infant mortality, its disparate outcomes across racial lines are staggering.

Right-wing advocates worked hard during the Bush years to frame them as the results of individual choices, and surely, we all need to do a far better job of taking care of ourselves. But it’s also plain that racial disparities in health cut too profoundly across too many illnesses to be dismissed as solely about bad behavior. You name the illness, and blacks are more likely to get it and less likely to survive with it.

Here’s a list of ills to boil your blood and get you shouting at your own congressional representatives.

10 reasons black people should be mad as hell about the health care status quo.

1. Uninsured. Forty percent of black Americans reported being uninsured for some portion of 2007-2008, compared to 1 in 4 whites. And it’s not just about income, nearly a quarter of blacks making more than $84,000 a year lacked coverage at some point, compared to 16 percent of whites in that income bracket.

2. Early death. If black America were its own country, it would rank 105th in the world for life expectancy, behind places like Algeria, the Dominican Republic and Sri Lanka. We’re barely in the developing world.

3. Infant mortality. Black infants are 2.5 times more likely to die than white newborns. Again, if black America were its own country, we’d rank 88th in infant mortality rates. (Hat tip to my Black AIDS Institute colleagues for the global comparisons.)

4. Cancer. It’s the second-leading cause of death in America, but that means more to some than others—the black male death rate is 37 percent higher than whites and the black female rate is 17 percent higher.

5. Breast and cervical cancer. Black women are twice as likely to die from cervical cancer as whites and while breast cancer deaths are dropping for whites, black women continue to die at higher rates than anybody else. Why? No preventive care to catch cancer early enough to treat it.

6. Diabetes. America is in the throes of a diabetes epidemic, but it’s raging like nowhere else among blacks, particularly black women, who have a higher rate than any other group. Worse, both black men and women are much more likely to be hospitalized, disabled and killed by diabetes once they have it.

7. Heart disease. It’s the nation’s leading killer and leading disabler—and racks up some $300 billion a year in health costs. Surprise, surprise—blacks have more of it and get it younger than anybody else.

8. HIV/AIDS. Blacks account for a whopping half of all those living with HIV today, 45 percent of those newly infected each year and about half of all deaths. At this point, it’s basically a black epidemic.

9. STDs. An unprecedented study last year found 48 percent of all black teenage girls tested had a sexually transmitted infection. Damn near half. Which helps explain the HIV data, since untreated STDs facilitate the spread of HIV.

10. Downward spiral. All of this is getting worse as time drags on. Between the civil rights movement and today, black people have improved our lot in life by just about every score—education, income, occupation. All except the one that matters most: living to see old age. The gap between black and white mortality rates has actually increased by a third since 1960. If that’s not enough to [censored] us off, I don’t know what is.

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**blugiant** · 09-21-2009, 02:19 PM

Re: obama racism strategy?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">it's nothing strange- it's just simple politics;

obama is not in a position to comment on racism as it would spell political doom...
(yawn)...
politics many times requires that simple obvious truths be denied or ignored for the sake of 'political' expediency;

carter can speak on it now that he is a private citizen, but he certainly could not have done so if still holding public office;
it's all basically a game- and the common people are the pawns </div></div>

oww do ploitrixx xxpeedeeenncee benefitt blakks? look pon steel da republikkan blakks ann oww imm chattinn bout racism. imm sey carter doan knoo bout racism butt cah steel a blakk man imm caan tell carter bout itt wild imm chattinn bout y obama critic ar natt racist. look oww dem tart fii chatt bout racism cah dem knoo obama unable fii address mzungu racism

mzungu wey run as democrats usuallee affii mekk certain cancession to blakk fii gitt blakk support oww eva likkle. doo obama affii mekk similar cansession to blakks fii gitt blakk support

mii wandar iff jimy didd sey anneeting pon racism wen imm wass inn da affice.

**blugiant** · 09-21-2009, 02:27 PM

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miss lou was fimi sesame street soo mii learn dat truism fram mii a likkle yuth. da artikkle shood ave sed moas miseducated blakks ave been educated bye mzungu fii knoo dem place. iff obama winn reelection, mii wood luv fii see oww imm will respand den

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: barosa</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">de nile

obama strateegee fe deal widd racism iss fii placate mzungu? even wen mzungu pint out dat obama racist critic ar beeinn racist, obama will look fii reasons fii deni racism. <span style="font-weight: bold">ave oonnoo eva see ar read obama sey sintinn wey mzungu doo iss racist?</span>

soo oonnoo cum tell mii wat obama strateegee fii deal widd racist mzungu? </div></div>
<span style="font-size: 14pt">No blakkgiant!</span>.... However, I would suggest you read the paragraph below borrowed from a posting in "International/Regional News" as my response to your views above...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Most educated blacks know that in order to get ahead or benefit in anyway in America, they have to thread lightly on racial matters, especially if they have benefitted materially from certain opportunities extended to them, whether given or fought for... It is understandable that just like many of their white peers, they have to be mindful that "what and how" they talk about "racism" can hurt them and destroy their future if they are not careful... <span style="font-weight: bold">Obama falls into that category and he would be a "fool"</span> to ignore what has been a long established tradition in American society...</div></div>
As we we often say in Jamaica, <span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-weight: bold">Sometimes, yu haffi play Fool fi ketch Wise.</span></span> ; a very "wise and appropriate" saying that guided many of us throughout our Lives...
____________________________

"At a time of universal deceit," wrote George Orwell, "telling the truth is a revolutionary act."

</div></div>

**Derek** · 09-21-2009, 02:36 PM

Re: obama racism strategy?

Isn't it in his best interests to placate as many people as possible?
As I said in the other thread, denying racism makes him look like Mr Reasonable and not Mr Racecard.

I wouldn't be surprised if Obama and Carter sat down and agreed this good cop bad cop scenario. This is politics after all.

**blugiant** · 09-22-2009, 02:14 PM

Re: obama racism strategy?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Isn't it in his best interests to placate as many people as possible?
As I said in the other thread, denying racism makes him look like Mr Reasonable and not Mr Racecard.

I wouldn't be surprised if Obama and Carter sat down and agreed this good cop bad cop scenario. This is politics after all. </div></div>

can yu playkkkate racists. iff imm keep playkkkatinn racism woan dat embolden racist mzungu leadinn too more racist attakkk.

itt like dem racist askinn iff mzungu feel dat de healthcare reform will lead to racial quotas ann mzungu beeinn denied eealthcare base pon dem race

ave obama strategee ledd too more racism?

**Peasie** · 09-22-2009, 02:15 PM

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**barosa** · 09-22-2009, 05:00 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">miss lou was fimi sesame street soo mii learn dat truism fram mii a likkle yuth. da artikkle shood ave sed moas miseducated blakks ave been educated bye mzungu fii knoo dem place. iff obama winn reelection, mii wood luv fii see oww imm will respand den</div></div>
It's nice to know that you were an ardent student of Miss Lou's "teachings" and did have knowledge of old Jamaican "proverbs", many of which pre-dates her. ~ I have concluded that "yu did done know" that there was no way that Obama would be lashing out at "racism" now that he is President of all the people; that would be like "cutting off yu nose fi spite yu face". It's plain to see that your "initial statement" was specious to begin with and may have been put forward for the sake of discussion.. ~ No chroo?!! .
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"At a time of universal deceit," wrote George Orwell, "telling the truth is a revolutionary act."

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