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J-Kid still waiting for clarification. -
Serial rapist or rapist is extreme...the drugs were offered as stimulus...plus most said there was no intercourse...just that they were drugged n clothing SEEMED to have been rearranged...the wording of complaints is very important...that is y the first DA found ' no case'...up till now it has been the press, as usual , mouthing nonsense n giving 'celebrity' lawyer Gloria Allred her usual grist...she knew she had no criminal case but with today's climate was building public ire to try a ting ...note how she with thr armful of clients, never filed anything...this has been much ado about nothing n it has brought down a man who rightly or wrongly, in his younger n newly famous days, did wat was par for the course in that swinging circle...the women contributed to its continuation by agreeing to discuss 'business' under opening intimate settings...were not drug wen they arrived n saw a business attendee dressed in pyjamas...not like they were meeting Hef at the Playboy Club...this case has no legal leg to stand on...none if u go by the letter of the law..yet another that wiil b tried in the court of public opinion, n like these latter day killing field cops, he Cos, despite his later achievements, will b reduced to his colour n UNLIKE these cops , Cos' ain't white n won't be done right...( cause in the minds of who letting of them white cops , their white skin sees dem being done right)... This echoes, if u black, stay back...many rich blacks still paying for OJOriginally posted by Tuff Gong View PostComment
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Slutty, hav nutten fi duh wid it, mi talking bout di first sentence uppa tap. Historically many women gets ah free pass for things dem duh tuh men. Society si it ah ah big joke. Mi can list ah few, but lets jus mention for example, Loraina Bobbitt. Yuh hav women who hav raped boys, and men, bash man ova head wid frying pan, pull knife pan man, stab man, shoot man, poison man, bun man clothes, set fire tuh him house, an ongle get ah slap pan di wrist, but none ah dem made yuh list. Many time men get convicted on just the say-so of a woman, circumstantial evidence, and di sympathy factor. Fair is fair, dat was mi point. SOCIETY too quick fi tek wan ah di side's wud an nat di odda. Yuh eida play it legal straight dung di line, or not at all.Originally posted by Tropicana View PostComment
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Yuh proving mi point right yah soh. Look wah di judge duh. Him ah gi har ah pass.Originally posted by Tropicana View PostComment
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J-Kid that is a totally different discussion.Comment
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I can't see it because of Bandwidth issues, but I doubt a judge (on his own initiative, without an application followed by a hearing), would unseal an agreement?Originally posted by j-kid View PostComment
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Each case is separate and as far as I overstand it, she has tried and for various reasons, including Statute Of Limitations was never successful.Originally posted by evanovitch View Post
But she has persisted including to get at least one Jurisdiction to extend the Statute Of Limitations, based on the efforts of at least one of her Clients.
....maybe he thought he was Hef?Originally posted by evanovitch View Post
This a guy who did stand-up about the use/effects of Spanish Fly!Comment
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Judge Explains Why He Unsealed Bill Cosby Court DocumentsA federal judge said one of the reasons he unsealed court documents in which Bill Cosby admits he gave a woman drugs before sex is because of the disconnect between the comedian's upright public persona and the serious allegations against him. "The stark contrast between Bill Cosby, the public moralist and Bill Cosby, the subject of serious allegations concerning improper (and perhaps criminal) conduct is a matter as to which the AP — and by extension the public — has a significant interest," Judge Eduardo Robreno wrote in a memorandum Monday.
Listen, Cosby is clearly pond scum and a dawgasaurus of the highest order but this:
because of the disconnect between the comedian's upright public persona and the serious allegations against him.
is NO justification for unsealing records. A deal is a deal, an agreement is an agreement. If his rights are violated....EVERYONE'S rights are up for grabs..
The documents were released after a request from The Associated Press.Cosby said in a 2005 legal deposition that he had obtained prescriptions of a powerful sedative to give to women with whom he wanted to have sex, according to the documents. His testimony was part of a civil suit involving a woman who accused him of drugging her and sexually assaulting her.
The actor was not charged in connection with these claims and the case was dismissed in 2006.Comment
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I tell you what, since that is now OK to do, lets just start unsealing records of minors, sexual assault, domestic abuse victims, spies, snitches/informants, and whistle blowers records? Lets have a free for all.Comment
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Exactly....it is a slippery slope.Originally posted by j-kid View Post
Let's not forget juvenile delinquency records, adoption records...and also shelving confidentiality between doctor and patient and lawyer and client.
The ironic thing is that it is the press that asked for this. So I guess they are okay of the rules re: confidentiality of sources going out the window too.Comment
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The details of 41 or his accusers are listed here.
Let's see how many I find credible.Comment
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Okay I have reviewed 12:
These are credible.... 6/12
These are borderline in terms of credibility. 3/121. Kristina Ruehli Year of Alleged Incident: 1965
Ruehli, now 71, claimed in an interview with Philadelphia Magazine that Cosby sexually assaulted her when she was a 22-year-old secretary at a talent agency.
Ruehli alleges that Cosby invited her to a party at his home, but when she got there she was the only guest. Ruehli went on to claim that she had a cocktail with Cosby and suddenly passed out. Ruehli further alleges that when she came to, she was in Cosby's bed and he allegedly tried to force her to perform oral sex on him.
she was one of the 13 Jane Doe witnesses that was prepared to testify against Cosby during Andrea Constand's civil suit.
2. Carla Ferrigno
Year of Alleged Incident: 1967
According to actress Carla Ferrigno - wife of The Incredible Hulk star Lou Ferrigno, although the two were not married at the time – she had allegedly been invited on a double date with Cosby and his wife. Carla claims that both couples went to Cosby's home and were shooting pool in the basement. She goes on to allege that at one point, she and Cosby ended up alone together, and that he allegedly pulled her close and kissed her roughly as she tried to fight him off.
4. Cindra Ladd
Year of Alleged Incident: 1969
According to Ladd, she and a roommate hung out with Cosby several times and began to form a plutonic friendship with the married comedian.
Ladd alleges that one night, she meet Cosby at an apartment that he said belonged to his friend. Ladd, who says she was suffering from a headache that night, alleges that Cosby offered her a capsule that would ease the pain. Ladd claims that she was drugged and that she awoke naked in bed with Cosby in a white robe in the room with her.
6. Autumn Burns
Year of Alleged Incident: 1970
Burns claims that she met Cosby while working as a waitress at the gaming tables in a casino in Las Vegas.
Burns claims that, after attending one of the comedian's shows, he gave her a drink that caused her to feel woozy. Burns further alleges that Cosby raped her in his hotel suite.
8. Donna Motsinger
Year of Alleged Incident: 1971
Motsinger claims that Cosby drugged and raped her while she was working as a jazz club waitress in Sausalito, Calif.
Why didn't she bite just him HARD?7. Louisa Mortiz
Year Of Alleged Incident: 1971
Actress Louisa Mortiz, best known for her work in One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, claims that Bill Cosby forced her to EDIT on him in the dressing room of Johnny Carson's Tonight Show in 1971.
Mortiz made these claims to TMZ on November 20, in which she alleges that Cosby told her, "You don't want to upset me and the plans for your future, do you?"
9. Katherine McKee
Year of Alleged Incident: Early 1970s
McKee, an actress and former show girl, claims that Cosby raped her in a Michigan hotel room in the early 1970s while she was on tour with Sammy Davis Jr.
According to McKee in an interview with the New York Daily News, "Back then, I was Sammy’s road wife. He had an open marriage, and we were lovers. That’s how it went." McKee claims that she knew Cosby through Davis for eight years before he attacked her.
McKee alleges that she came to have dinner with Cosby at his hotel, and that when she arrived Cosby attacked her. "He spun me around, pulled my panties down, and just took it," McKee said. "We were still standing at the door when he attacked me… It was so fast and so shocking and so unbelievable."
FLIPPIN' DAWG!!
10. Helen Hayes
Year Of Alleged Incident: 1973
Hayes claims to have encountered Cosby in 1973 when he allegedly stalked her and her friends during a weekend-long celebrity golf tournament in Pebble Beach, Calif., saying, "His behavior was like that of a predator."
She alleges that, on the last night of the tournament, Cosby approached her from behind, reached over her shoulder and grabbed her EDIT.
PIG!!
11. Charlotte Fox
Year of Alleged Incident: Mid-1970s
Fox claims to have met Cosby while she was working as an extra on the set of the comedian's 1974 film Uptown Saturday Night, where she was allegedly invited to the Playboy Mansion
DAWG!!
for a dinner Cosby was hosting.
"I vaguely remember coming back from the bathroom," Fox alleged in a statement she read at a press conference held by attorney Gloria Allred in New York on Aug. 20, People reports. "The next thing I remember was that I was sort of awake, in a bed, with no clothes on and there was Mr. Cosby, in a robe, crawling from the bottom of the bed."
Fox alleges that Cosby engaged in non-consensual sexual activity with Fox, who claims to have been "incapacitated."
FLIPPIN' DAWG!!
12. Judy Huth
Year Of Alleged Incident: 1974
Huth filed a lawsuit against Cosby on Dec. 2, in which she claims that she first met Cosby back in 1974, when she was 15 and she - along with an unnamed 16-year-old female friend - wandered onto a movie set where Cosby was working. According to the lawsuit, Cosby allegedly befriended Huth and her friend, and invited them over to his home where he served them alcohol.
Huth's lawsuit goes on to claim that Cosby knew how old she was, and that he took her to a party at the Playboy Mansion
DAWG!!
where he allegedly told her to tell anyone who asked that she was 19. While at the party, Huth alleges in court documents that, when she emerged from using the restroom in one of the mansion's many rooms, Cosby was sitting on a bed waiting for her, and then allegedly sexually assaulted her by taking her hand and making her EDIT.
DAWG!!
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Originally posted by j-kid View Post
that is the real issue coming from this case..dangerous precedent has been set...in this zeal to bring down Cosby , the short sighted have opened a hornet's nest indeed...
btw, J-Kid all the best for the NYComment
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Dam Tropi, dat is ah good pint! Lets si if dem talk from both sides ah dem mouth, wen ah fi dem turn?Originally posted by Tropicana View PostComment
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