Can struggling Caribbean nations be taken over and turned in

**jah_yout** · 11-04-2009, 03:20 PM

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For some it may sound like a new colonialism but he believes that the proposal offers a truly global win-win solution. </div></div>
i'm sure he does

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<span style="font-weight: bold">He is due to visit Jamaica in late November to talk with the government in Kingston on other matters.</span>
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aye sah

**evanovitch** · 11-04-2009, 03:51 PM

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u seet too ...wonda wat else him ha to seh dat dem wan fi hear

**Amberal37** · 11-04-2009, 04:29 PM

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<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 14pt">I have a major problem with this.</span></span>

Too much to go into but...

Too many times I have heard Europeans utter about how Europe should take control of these black nations that were given "independence" - this time to "help" them.

The ONLY way that they would create this <span style="text-decoration: line-through">recolonialisation</span> charter city is through colonisation (either by force, or subversion).

It is largely limited political and infrastructural facilitation that prevents highly educated individuals from nations like Jamaica, Ghana, Nigeria diaspora from creating the value and wealth for their nations of origin.
<span style="font-weight: bold">How many of their so-called charities actually fund the facilitation of these individuals to return to their countries to help development.</span>Charities such as Oxfam, Save the Children, red Cross, nearly ALWAYS wants white individuals to work in beneficiary countries - youa re lucky to find a handful of non-white.

Apart from the fact that I think that our "muddling through" this phase will be the biggest lessons in our history.

On large scale, Europeans are no less corrupt than African /black nations, they are only united through paranoia about the threat that they see as the blackpeople.
This paranoia only came about because of the evils committed through the holocaust of slavery - their fear of uprising from the black man.
There is also enormous envy at the potential natural wealth that can be unleashed.
This proposal is just another way of try to control outcomes again.

But be warned: The media will continue to perpetuate images and stories that talks up the imcompetance of black leaders in black countries. Why don't they sort out their racist mentality and that of their comrades!!

**Dr.Dudd** · 11-04-2009, 05:11 PM

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Same thing the did with Africa, only under different guise. But with the educated primed for it due to the quality of their education. It is just a matter if time.

Then they will do them just like the Jews during world war 2.

That is those who are nor suitable for slavery.
I am actually ashamed of my countrymen.

The educated ones that is.
From the university down.

They were simply brainwashed into becoming useless, to the needs of a country in need to development.
They accept the limitizing education that were taught. Believe that it improved them as human beings What it does, is simply create more useful slaves.

What is education if it does not imbibe the unquenched thirst for real freedom and equality?
How many of us can say that without some excuse why it cannot be achieved for our country and people?
. education and accept it

**evanovitch** · 11-04-2009, 05:11 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The media will continue to perpetuate images and stories that talks up the imcompetance of black leaders in black countries. </div></div>

dont u think that we, the black nations live up to the claim of incompetence....separate n apart from wedda reporting is racist etc?

**Dr.Dudd** · 11-04-2009, 05:32 PM

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We are educated to be incompetent.

We are educated tio be limited to what they taught us..

How many of us ever eveb try to research anything we are taught??<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The media will continue to perpetuate images and stories that talks up the imcompetance of black leaders in black countries. </div></div>

dont u think that we, the black nations live up to the claim of incompetence....separate n apart from wedda reporting is racist etc? </div></div>

**Wahalla** · 11-04-2009, 05:34 PM

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well mi undereducated....

**Amberal37** · 11-04-2009, 05:49 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The media will continue to perpetuate images and stories that talks up the imcompetance of black leaders in black countries. </div></div>

dont u think that we, the black nations live up to the claim of incompetence....separate n apart from wedda reporting is racist etc? </div></div>

Coincidentally was just reading this - I hope this article will help to answer what you have asked me.

Simon Mann...

Now if the coup WAS successful - what do you think the headline would have been?
<span style="font-weight: bold">"Another failed African state"</span>

<span style="font-weight: bold">"Are Africans ever capable of having peace?"</span>

<span style="font-weight: bold">"African leaders sell food for weapons.."</span>
Perhaps not so blatant - but headlines that would prompt people to think that way.

NEVER MIND the fact that this Mann's family was already wealthy, and he employed (and no doubt bought weapons for) 70 people to assist him. No likely majority of his paid helpers were black because they could work more easily without detection in Guinea.

**Amberal37** · 11-04-2009, 05:53 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We are educated to be incompetent.

<span style="font-weight: bold">We are educated tio be limited to what they taught us..</span>How many of us ever eveb try to research anything we are taught?? </div></div>

Yes, but the English were also educated in such a manner by under the Romans, but later used that education and build on it to create their own empire. (though it took a couple of centuries )

**Dr.Dudd** · 11-04-2009, 06:28 PM

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The English developed their own colleges, based on Ethiopian and Alexandria. universities. They Did not use Roman teachings to Free themselves. They think outside the box that they were put in.
Then they destroyed them and then develop their way to suppress the race they learn from. Psychology really thought that <span style="font-size: 17pt"> the worst victimized by a tyrant will be his benefactor.</span><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: amberal37</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We are educated to be incompetent.

<span style="font-weight: bold">We are educated to be limited to what they taught us..</span>How many of us ever even try to research anything we are taught?? </div></div>

Yes, but the English were also educated in such a manner by under the Romans, but later used that education and build on it to create their own empire. (though it took a couple of centuries ) </div></div>

**Amberal37** · 11-04-2009, 06:41 PM

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Not going into history now so I will let it go no, but yes, the Romans learnt what they did through the Ethiopians/nubians, before them also the Greeks, but the Romans brought it to them, they learnt what they did through Roman teachings, NOT as direct doctrines from Ethiopians.

**Wahalla** · 11-04-2009, 07:00 PM

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so the greeks and romans were incapable of original thought????? only the Nubians????

There was a yanki who a couple weeks ago said the same thing about Jamaicans.. all we had was Bolt....we needed the charity like the Romans and greeks had no philosophy...

**barosa** · 11-05-2009, 01:50 AM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold">Can struggling Caribbean nations be taken over and turned into modern cities?</span>
<span style="font-style: italic">A Caribbean charter city idea? </span>

<span style="font-style: italic">Professor Romer offers "a truly global win-win solution" </span>

<span style="font-weight: bold">Was it a pre-modern power grab or a post-modern experiment in good governance? </span>
<span style="font-style: italic">That question was posed by Newsweek </span>in its reporting of Britain's decision to return direct rule to the Turks and Caicos Islands.

The US magazine likened the colonial power grab to the Charter Cities idea proposed by economist Paul Romer of Stanford University.

Under Professor Romer's idea, <span style="font-weight: bold">one or more rich nations can take a chunk of a struggling country and turn it, for a limited period, into a charter city - a place that provides security, economic opportunity, and improved quality of life</span>.

For some it may sound like a new colonialism but he believes that the proposal offers a truly global win-win solution.

"These cities address global poverty by giving people the chance to escape from precarious and harmful subsistence agriculture or dangerous urban slums."

Professor Romer cites the story of Hong Kong, which was administered by Britain before being returned to China.

One of his case proposals is for, say Canada, to could take over local administration of a portion of Cuban territory straddling Guantanamo Bay - with the voluntary agreement of the US and Cuba.

In an interview with BBC Caribbean, Professor Romer discussed Charter Cities with Bertram Niles and whether they could work in the Caribbean.

<span style="font-weight: bold">He is due to visit Jamaica in late November to talk with the government in Kingston on other matters.</span>
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When the above is carefully examined, it is clear that these charter cities ideas are based on the premise that the island(s) are poor and poverty stricken... They talk about providing "security", economic opportunity and improved quality of life" To me, it sounds more like foreign money looking for areas to develop to make "more money" off the plight of the poor.. I would offer a guess and say that they would only come to Jamaica if the govt would guarantee them No Crime in their selected Areas.

I am jesting here, but can you imagine rounding up all the known criminals and relocate them to other areas. so that these "charter cities idealists" wouldn't have to deal with real Crime?...
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**Dr.Dudd** · 11-05-2009, 05:04 AM

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You miss the point.
<span style="font-weight: bold">they would be the government</span>

this is not about investment.

It is about taking over the whole caribbean and over run the local population making them maids amd gardeners.

If they are not fit to develop the country, why would the need their permission to move in?
They don't need ant crime to be stopped bt the governments either.

They have the military and the excuses to invade whenever they are ready.

And i am sure some mealymouthed locals will be welcoming them too. <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: barosa</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold">Can struggling Caribbean nations be taken over and turned into modern cities?</span>
<span style="font-style: italic">A Caribbean charter city idea? </span>

<span style="font-style: italic">Professor Romer offers "a truly global win-win solution" </span>

<span style="font-weight: bold">Was it a pre-modern power grab or a post-modern experiment in good governance? </span>
<span style="font-style: italic">That question was posed by Newsweek </span>in its reporting of Britain's decision to return direct rule to the Turks and Caicos Islands.

The US magazine likened the colonial power grab to the Charter Cities idea proposed by economist Paul Romer of Stanford University.

Under Professor Romer's idea, <span style="font-weight: bold">one or more rich nations can take a chunk of a struggling country and turn it, for a limited period, into a charter city - a place that provides security, economic opportunity, and improved quality of life</span>.

For some it may sound like a new colonialism but he believes that the proposal offers a truly global win-win solution.

"These cities address global poverty by giving people the chance to escape from precarious and harmful subsistence agriculture or dangerous urban slums."

Professor Romer cites the story of Hong Kong, which was administered by Britain before being returned to China.

One of his case proposals is for, say Canada, to could take over local administration of a portion of Cuban territory straddling Guantanamo Bay - with the voluntary agreement of the US and Cuba.

In an interview with BBC Caribbean, Professor Romer discussed Charter Cities with Bertram Niles and whether they could work in the Caribbean.

<span style="font-weight: bold">He is due to visit Jamaica in late November to talk with the government in Kingston on other matters.</span>
</div></div>
When the above is carefully examined, it is clear that these charter cities ideas are based on the premise that the island(s) are poor and poverty stricken... They talk about providing "security", economic opportunity and improved quality of life" To me, it sounds more like foreign money looking for areas to develop to make "more money" off the plight of the poor.. I would offer a guess and say that they would only come to Jamaica if the govt would guarantee them No Crime in their selected Areas.

I am jesting here, but can you imagine rounding up all the known criminals and relocate them to other areas. so that these "charter cities idealists" wouldn't have to deal with real Crime?...
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"At a time of universal deceit," wrote George Orwell, "telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
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