When Bernie Sanders Thought Castro and the Sandinistas Could Teach America a Lesson

[Wahalla]

Was that when Fidel came to visit JA? Perhaps he was being polite.

The U.S. would never allow another Caribbean nation to copy Cuba. The 1% has too much of their investments to lose in such an attempt.

I recall the speech and he also said why.....

[Wahalla]

Very well said! And I'll add, never made "home sweet home" by those that defend it.

I also believe that the US should accept her Majesty as head of state and become a colony of the UK again... just until it matures to the Jamaican level of sophistication! Course the down side is that it could become Kanadalike....

[evanovitch]

I find it amusing that Fidel's Cuba and his apologists always blame US embargo and sanctions for communist Cuba's woes. He accepted Communist Russia's help and aid, the USA's enemy during the cold war. And then there was the Cuban missle crisis and the failure of communist Russia. So, that said and facts being what they are...What did you expect?

Fidel cozied up to Communism, murdered many freedom fighters that fought next to him during the revolution and then cozied up to Communist Russia. I don't understand why you don't put any of the blame on Castro for the suffering of the Cuban people.

China is favoured because capitalism follows cheap labor and communist China knows what pays the bills and feeds millions of its people, and thats' Capitalism.

I have have always found it funny that Americans, when faced with historical facts, try to dismiss said by terming those who cite said, as 'apologists etc', while not real using that they do what they decry in others

China , is awash in corruption, human rights' abuses, which u find to b 'favoured' since it can be WHITEwashed n called 'capitalism'...good one...snicker...COMMUNISM aka CAPITALISM...funny how the U.S. Didn't see Jamaica's try at DEMOCRATIC Socialism in the same light

The US came up with its Big Stick foreign policy to keep one private company, the United Fruit Company , paying inhumane wages to workers n prices for produce, in Central, Latin, South America n the West Indies

the US has supported , at the expense of the citizens of those nations, despots such as

MUGABE

Well, we made friends with him after 9/11, because (SURPRISE!) his country has oil! Lots of oil! So we’re totally cool now. Condoleeza Rice called him “a good friend”. In 2008, the US imported nearly $3 billion in petroleum products from Equatorial Guinea.

PINOCHET

Back in 1974, Pinochet led a military coup ousting Chile’s Democratically elected leader, Salvador Allende. Why? Because he was pretty sure that democracy would lead to Communism, and that it was his job to put an end to the nation’s 150 year history of Democratically elected officials.
During his “leadership,” 1,200–3,200 people were killed, up to 80,000 were interned, and up to 30,000 were tortured by his government including women and children. And yet, the United States helped him overthrow Allende, and provided material support to the regime after the coup, despite criticizing it in public. Idriss Déby, Chad
Chad is another one we’ve gotten about $3 billion in oil from. Our state department has called him a great ally in the war on terror, and commends the country for providing shelter to refugees from Darfur. Which sounds nice.
Until you take a bigger look at their human rights record, as per Amnesty International’s 2010 report:
Civilians and humanitarian workers were killed and abducted; women and girls were victims of rape and other violence; and children were used as soldiers. The authorities failed to take adequate action to protect civilians from attacks by bandits and armed groups. Suspected political opponents were unlawfully arrested, arbitrarily detained and tortured or otherwise ill-treated. Harassment and intimidation of journalists and human rights defenders continued. Demolition of houses and other structures continued throughout 2009, leaving thousands of people homeless.
Oh, not to mention that they used the money we gave them to help with their famine to buy tons of weaponry to keep Deby’s regime in power
Manuel Noriega, Panama

Oh Manuel Noriega. Trained here, in the United States, at the good ol’ School of the Americas– our special training ground in Ft. Benning, Georgia for future Latin American death squad members and dictators. Best buddies with George H. W. Bush. Collaborator with Oliver North on a special fancy trading plan, that involved us sending them weapons, and them sending us their cocaine.
According to Amnesty International, during his dictatorship of Panama, he was guilty of “extrajudicial killings, enforced disappearances, detention without trial and the torture and ill-treatment of demonstrators while he was de facto ruler of Panama from 1983 to 1989.”
However, no one here really had a big problem with Noriega until he expressed little interest in continuing to fight the Sandinistas, and he was summarily brought to the US and jailed for drug trafficking. Because that’s how we do. His former bro, George H.W.– concerned about being criticized for his previous relationship with Noriega– summarily invaded Panama, and killed a ridiculous amount of people, in order to capture Noriega. A new regime was installed, with all of the same drug and weapon issues, but an inclination to be better at going along with whatever the US wanted.



Islam Karimov, Uzbekistan

First of all- He HAS PEOPLE BOILED TO DEATH. He boils them! To death! He also had 400-500 people protesting his regime cordoned off and massacred by snipers in the street. Not to mention the commonplace torture, arbitrary jailings, and massive round-ups of religious minorities. Good guy, huh?
Yet, Uzbeki-beki-bekistan is one of our best buds in the Global War On Terror. Plus, they’ve got a ton of awesome uranium there, and we’re pretty fond of buying it from them, and they like buying our Boeing jetliners


Ferdinand Marcos, The Phillipines

[lonewolf]

I also believe that the US should accept her Majesty as head of state and become a colony of the UK again... just until it matures to the Jamaican level of sophistication! Course the down side is that it could become Kanadalike....

US has always danced to the beat of a different drummer...there will never be any sophistication. Taxation without representation again? No thanks! Anyway, figured you folks across the big pond would be tired of footing the bill for the royal (leaches) family by now... Canada just a by product of the USA.

[lonewolf]

I have have always found it funny that Americans, when faced with historical facts, try to dismiss said by terming those who cite said, as 'apologists etc', while not real using that they do what they decry in others

China , is awash in corruption, human rights' abuses, which u find to b 'favoured' since it can be WHITEwashed n called 'capitalism'...good one...snicker...COMMUNISM aka CAPITALISM...funny how the U.S. Didn't see Jamaica's try at DEMOCRATIC Socialism in the same light

The US came up with its Big Stick foreign policy to keep one private company, the United Fruit Company , paying inhumane wages to workers n prices for produce, in Central, Latin, South America n the West Indies

the US has supported , at the expense of the citizens of those nations, despots such as

MUGABE

Well, we made friends with him after 9/11, because (SURPRISE!) his country has oil! Lots of oil! So we’re totally cool now. Condoleeza Rice called him “a good friend”. In 2008, the US imported nearly $3 billion in petroleum products from Equatorial Guinea.

PINOCHET

Back in 1974, Pinochet led a military coup ousting Chile’s Democratically elected leader, Salvador Allende. Why? Because he was pretty sure that democracy would lead to Communism, and that it was his job to put an end to the nation’s 150 year history of Democratically elected officials.
During his “leadership,” 1,200–3,200 people were killed, up to 80,000 were interned, and up to 30,000 were tortured by his government including women and children. And yet, the United States helped him overthrow Allende, and provided material support to the regime after the coup, despite criticizing it in public. Idriss Déby, Chad
Chad is another one we’ve gotten about $3 billion in oil from. Our state department has called him a great ally in the war on terror, and commends the country for providing shelter to refugees from Darfur. Which sounds nice.
Until you take a bigger look at their human rights record, as per Amnesty International’s 2010 report:
Civilians and humanitarian workers were killed and abducted; women and girls were victims of rape and other violence; and children were used as soldiers. The authorities failed to take adequate action to protect civilians from attacks by bandits and armed groups. Suspected political opponents were unlawfully arrested, arbitrarily detained and tortured or otherwise ill-treated. Harassment and intimidation of journalists and human rights defenders continued. Demolition of houses and other structures continued throughout 2009, leaving thousands of people homeless.
Oh, not to mention that they used the money we gave them to help with their famine to buy tons of weaponry to keep Deby’s regime in power
Manuel Noriega, Panama

Oh Manuel Noriega. Trained here, in the United States, at the good ol’ School of the Americas– our special training ground in Ft. Benning, Georgia for future Latin American death squad members and dictators. Best buddies with George H. W. Bush. Collaborator with Oliver North on a special fancy trading plan, that involved us sending them weapons, and them sending us their cocaine.
According to Amnesty International, during his dictatorship of Panama, he was guilty of “extrajudicial killings, enforced disappearances, detention without trial and the torture and ill-treatment of demonstrators while he was de facto ruler of Panama from 1983 to 1989.”
However, no one here really had a big problem with Noriega until he expressed little interest in continuing to fight the Sandinistas, and he was summarily brought to the US and jailed for drug trafficking. Because that’s how we do. His former bro, George H.W.– concerned about being criticized for his previous relationship with Noriega– summarily invaded Panama, and killed a ridiculous amount of people, in order to capture Noriega. A new regime was installed, with all of the same drug and weapon issues, but an inclination to be better at going along with whatever the US wanted.



Islam Karimov, Uzbekistan

First of all- He HAS PEOPLE BOILED TO DEATH. He boils them! To death! He also had 400-500 people protesting his regime cordoned off and massacred by snipers in the street. Not to mention the commonplace torture, arbitrary jailings, and massive round-ups of religious minorities. Good guy, huh?
Yet, Uzbeki-beki-bekistan is one of our best buds in the Global War On Terror. Plus, they’ve got a ton of awesome uranium there, and we’re pretty fond of buying it from them, and they like buying our Boeing jetliners


Ferdinand Marcos, The Phillipines

Evan, I do not support, nor will I ever support the US for propping up dictators and murderers cut from the same cloth as Fidel Castro just to make greedy, wealthy business men and politicians WEALTHIER at the expense of the common people!

I don't bleed red, white and blue. There is plenty wrong with the USA, past and present. Facts are facts and I will never dispute facts.