Ian Lyn The Miseducation of Jamaicans

[Panajar]

Wow what a brilliant young man ,there is hope for the Jamaican masses with a guy like this.I will have to support this guy to free our people from mental slavery...BTW can some one embbed,strange i am unable to embed vids on this site.

IAN LYN MISEDUCATION OF JAMAICANS


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[RichD]

Re: Ian Lyn The Miseducation of Jamaicans

so what him sey that others nuh sey long time?

[jah_yout]

Re: Ian Lyn The Miseducation of Jamaicans

marcus garvey immediately comes to mind...

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Ian Lyn The Miseducation of Jamaicans

It was Marcus Garvey thatstarted the nationof Islam. It didn't havethat name, but it is teh remnantof his organization. as a result every leader have had west indian roots. <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">marcus garvey immediately comes to mind... </div></div>

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Ian Lyn The Miseducation of Jamaicans

Knowledge is not usually new. since it is discovered, not created.
Only lies are created.
So just because someone have said it before, does not make it irrelevant.
this man is bringing it to people who probably never heard it before. My only problem is the religious connection.

That is a baggage enough to broaden the opposition.
they will easily get the illiterate christian pastors to suppress it, for an offering<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so what him sey that others nuh sey long time? </div></div>

[R_C]

Re: Ian Lyn The Miseducation of Jamaicans

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It was Marcus Garvey that started the nation of Islam.</div></div>

This is not true.

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Ian Lyn The Miseducation of Jamaicans

Ask Elijah Mohammed.<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rollin_Calf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It was Marcus Garvey that started the nation of Islam.</div></div>

This is not true. </div></div>

[R_C]

Re: Ian Lyn The Miseducation of Jamaicans

Don't be ridiculous.

In any event, the burden of proof lies with whoever makes assertions unsupported by historical facts.

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Ian Lyn The Miseducation of Jamaicans

Nonsense. The burden of proof is with whoever make the accusation. You are the accuser. Information is accepted until someone claim it is false.
person who make the accusation that it is false has the responsibility to prove it to be wrong.
Or they are libable
that is common law.
now prove it <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rollin_Calf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't be ridiculous.

In any event, the burden of proof lies with whoever makes assertions unsupported by historical facts. </div></div>

[R_C]

Re: Ian Lyn The Miseducation of Jamaicans

I will humour you.

http://www.noi.org/history_of_noi.htm

[Amberal37]

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As far as I see, he's spurting the same muddled rhetoric as all NOI afiliates. Part fact - mixed with a little emotiveness, and the rest hype.

Agree - don't think he's saying anything new, nor anything old that needs his embellishment.

Also don't think that we should get stuck on using words like &quot;servants&quot; - we should (and I think ARE) work towards overcoming our victim mentality! His labelling will only serve to take us backwards.

[britisha]

Re: Ian Lyn The Miseducation of Jamaicans

**kissteet**


I am still waiting to hear what he has to say !! Mi tap di tape...unimpressive and lack substance...*cho*


He should take a page out of Stokely Carmichael's [Kwameh Toureh] book for starters...YAAAAWNNN !!

<span style="font-size: 20pt">Don't shoot the messenger...as an ex-radical, I call it as *I* see it...</span>

[R_C]

Re: Ian Lyn The Miseducation of Jamaicans

...or Walter Rodney's.

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Ian Lyn The Miseducation of Jamaicans

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rollin_Calf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I will humour you.

http://www.noi.org/history_of_noi.htm

</div></div>
That you have? well let me tell you the history why you won't see the relationship between UNIA and nation of Islam. If you notice is started just after Marcus Garvey was railroaded and imprisoned and then deported. they also seized Garvey's property relation to UNIA.
this was belatedly over turned, by the courts after An incompetent or otherwise, acted against Garvey's best interest in the case.
Jamaican lawyer defended him but did not bother to file injunction so that they couldn't dispose of the property.
So Al though Marcus Garvey win the rights to the property.
He did not get them returned, or the proceeds of their sale
Apollo Theatre in Harlem is also a remnant of UNIA. they just did not officially link they for legal purposes.
theatre is also managed my descendants of West Indians. So you can read you r history and believe what you want.
You probably do not know that St William grant was cheated out of the Jamaica Labour unions by the so-called national hero too.
That's the only labour union that is a private limited company.

all others are co-operatives societies owned collectivelky by the members. .

[Dr.Dudd]

Re: Ian Lyn The Miseducation of Jamaicans

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: karigeni</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As far as I see, he's spurting the same muddled rhetoric as all NOI afiliates. Part fact - mixed with a little emotiveness, and the rest hype.

Agree - don't think he's saying anything new, nor anything old that needs his embellishment.

Also don't think that we should get stuck on using words like &quot;servants&quot; - we should (and I think ARE) work towards overcoming our victim mentality! His labelling will only serve to take us backwards.

</div></div>only weak minds are manipulated by labelling . It is no difference when the white man tell you that you are smarter and better than the other people like you. It does a lot to you more than the supposedly motivation. People who need the reassurance of theirs,irrespective of who are mentally weak. they are as weak as the ones that are discouraged by the negative expression of others. If one is mentally weak, they are really enslaved by their emotions.