jamaican people harrigle

**j-kid** · 12-31-2009, 05:49 PM

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Well, ...mi ah di good Doc was havin ah cordial philosophical discussion dis mawning along dem lines deh.

**Dr.Dudd** · 12-31-2009, 06:08 PM

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You ever listen to a lot of the Irish cultural music?
You probably do not realize that in the 60's police use to shoot in crowds of demonstrators. They use to murder people with dread locks. They only stop doing it as sport when uptown youth start becoming dreadlocks. It is easy for you to blame these people for writing and singing these songs, but at least he was not strapping on bombs. He was expressing hi People see what they want to see. Ther are a lot of racist murder music done by Canadian bands,but you won't condemn those.They are not bk. Yes i know they are not black. views. every country have a meas of expressing their views. I hear worse than that against black people recorded and performed in the USA, russia and Canada.
It is just that it is against black people, but of course they don't count unless they are not the victims. So ther are many countries,<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SueSumba</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
seriously. how jacked up is "if you want to <span style="font-weight: bold">live</span> treat me good"? mi noh know any odda nation big up dem badniss soh septing italians and dem maffi

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**Dr.Dudd** · 12-31-2009, 06:30 PM

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The Jamaican education system was never designed to educate black children ti be anything but servants.
Up to and decades after independence ther was only one high school in most parish, and St Thomas had none.
To attend the only university in the country one had to have special exams.

these exams were only done at these few high schools.

And a teacher must sponsor it or you couldn't sit the exams.
these schools had very few black children.

And they were mostly school principals children.
This went on for a while after independence too. And OH one had to pay to attend government high school,.
That is after passing an exam that make the sat look like cakewalk. and did I say it was 9 to 11 years old?
Yes that is how young they were.
the majority of Jamaican children that tend school before the 90's never got the opportunity to attend a real high school. Yet people come on here and behave like they were suppose to behave as if they were prepared for life!!
I mean which other country had such a dreadful education system and produce such outstanding examples of scholarship??
Oh tgher was thefew that got opportunities , but th emajority had nochance unless they migrated. And some had no direction or tools to deal succesfully with racuism and get involved in crime abroad.
Ofcourse every country produce it's share of criminals.
i don't think Jamaica does more than any. It is just that it is easy to claim it is done by Jamaicans because the naive and selfish, ones are willing to accept it without question although they know experience all sport of prejudice. they only see it when it involve them. Not when it is against their country.

**blugiant** · 12-31-2009, 06:56 PM

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everee wan iss cryinn out fii peace none iss cryinn out fii justice. i doan waan noo peace, i need equal rites ann justice --tosh

iff yu a bigg tree, mii a small axe waitinn fii cutt yu dunn==marley

**Nylah** · 12-31-2009, 07:09 PM

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Stepping out here on a limb sue, but metaphorically speaking isnt that statement true? I dont take the words literally....it is true for all - if you want to "live" then it is best to treat me "good"...with respect, kindness, dignity, etc. otherwise as a society we reap the outcome of not treating one another good.....kinda what is happening now in JA.

We all end up dead more or less, in more than one way or another because we dont treat everyone good.

my 2 cents

**blugiant** · 12-31-2009, 07:20 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nylah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Stepping out here on a limb sue, but metaphorically speaking isnt that statement true? I dont take the words literally....it is true for all - if you want to "live" then it is best to treat me "good"...with respect, kindess, dignity, etc. otherwise as a soceity we reap the outcome of not treating one another good.....kinda what is happening now in JA.

We all end up dead more or less, in more than one way or another because we dont treat everyone good.

my 2 cents </div></div>

nylah ave appee ann properous new ear

pon da negative side itt sund like wey gunman wood sey wen doinn sum income redistreebution

**Panajar** · 12-31-2009, 07:25 PM

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I wish more black Jamaicans were like TOSH, slavery would have ended much earlier , overt colonialism would not last as long as it did.Ask the Jewish people ,if you treat dem bad THEY WILL HUNT YOU DOWN and let you pay even if you are 99 years old.

**Nylah** · 12-31-2009, 07:26 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nylah</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Stepping out here on a limb sue, but metaphorically speaking isnt that statement true? I dont take the words literally....it is true for all - if you want to "live" then it is best to treat me "good"...with respect, kindess, dignity, etc. otherwise as a soceity we reap the outcome of not treating one another good.....kinda what is happening now in JA.

We all end up dead more or less, in more than one way or another because we dont treat everyone good.

my 2 cents </div></div>

nylah ave appee ann properous new ear

pon da negative side itt sund like wey gunman wood sey wen doinn sum income redistreebution </div></div>

<span style="font-style: italic">Let me try out Bluspeak for a minute</span>

Blu, ave appee ann prosperous new year tooo

True, on face value it does sound like a new income re-distribution plan

**blugiant** · 12-31-2009, 07:31 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Panajar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wish more black Jamaicans were like TOSH, slavery would have ended much earlier , overt colonialism would not last as long as it did.Ask the Jewish people ,if you treat dem bad THEY WILL HUNT YOU DOWN and let you pay even if you are 99 years old. </div></div>

sah dey were dat y jamaica add most slave revolts. itt de sellout part aff marroon histaree y itt neva ended earlier. dem sell dem soul fii treatee dat wass neva respected

**Panajar** · 12-31-2009, 07:35 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Panajar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wish more black Jamaicans were like TOSH, slavery would have ended much earlier , overt colonialism would not last as long as it did.Ask the Jewish people ,if you treat dem bad THEY WILL HUNT YOU DOWN and let you pay even if you are 99 years old. </div></div>

sah dey were dat y jamaica add most slave revolts. itt de sellout part aff marroon histaree y itt neva ended earlier. dem sell dem soul fii treatee dat wass neva respected </div></div>

Everyone wit scene know that mzungu plan is divide and conquer,DEM been doing doing it fe donkey years and all now dem dont stop.

**blugiant** · 12-31-2009, 07:40 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Panajar</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Panajar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wish more black Jamaicans were like TOSH, slavery would have ended much earlier , overt colonialism would not last as long as it did.Ask the Jewish people ,if you treat dem bad THEY WILL HUNT YOU DOWN and let you pay even if you are 99 years old. </div></div>

sah dey were dat y jamaica add most slave revolts. itt de sellout part aff marroon histaree y itt neva ended earlier. dem sell dem soul fii treatee dat wass neva respected </div></div>

Everyone wit scene know that mzungu plan is divide and conquer,DEM been doing doing it fe donkey years and all now dem dont stop. </div></div>

sah dem cyaan canquer wii soo dem divide ann rule wii usinn blakk face fii missmanage ann misslead

**Tuff Gong** · 01-03-2010, 02:04 AM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SueSumba</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
seriously. how jacked up is "if you want to <span style="font-weight: bold">live</span> treat me good"? mi noh know any odda nation big up dem badniss soh septing italians and dem maffi

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Although Peter always project an air of toughness and confrontation this song was actually aimed at the Authorities. It was more of a political song and hence you might say it more rhetorical that physical intent.

If read the lines you will see a lot of ifs so to put it bluntly respect begets respect hence it not a threat but a response(s) to a threat(s).

BTW it was a Joe Higgs song recorded by Peter Tosh.....Joe Higgs been less outwardly violent but was known for some crucial lyrics.

**Wahalla** · 01-03-2010, 06:36 AM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Jamaican education system was never designed to educate black children ti be anything but servants.
Up to and decades after independence ther was only one high school in most parish, and St Thomas had none.
To attend the only university in the country one had to have special exams.

these exams were only done at these few high schools.

And a teacher must sponsor it or you couldn't sit the exams.
these schools had very few black children.

And they were mostly school principals children.
This went on for a while after independence too. And OH one had to pay to attend government high school,.
That is after passing an exam that make the sat look like cakewalk. and did I say it was 9 to 11 years old?
Yes that is how young they were.
the majority of Jamaican children that tend school before the 90's never got the opportunity to attend a real high school. Yet people come on here and behave like they were suppose to behave as if they were prepared for life!!
I mean which other country had such a dreadful education system and produce such outstanding examples of scholarship??
Oh tgher was thefew that got opportunities , but th emajority had nochance unless they migrated. And some had no direction or tools to deal succesfully with racuism and get involved in crime abroad.
Ofcourse every country produce it's share of criminals.
i don't think Jamaica does more than any. It is just that it is easy to claim it is done by Jamaicans because the naive and selfish, ones are willing to accept it without question although they know experience all sport of prejudice. they only see it when it involve them. Not when it is against their country. </div></div>

Doc I disagree with the time line that you propose... If you look at the graduating classes from tjhe beginig of the last centuary one noticed that there were near exclusivity of white children till the 1940's ..Well Manli pere and junior was considered white (pere was an officer in the British Army and apart from one unique black officer there were no black officers_).. despite the efforts to say he was not.. then there was a gradation with a constant increase until there was an inversion of white to black ratio by the mid 60's.. by the 70's it was inverted completely..

I agreee with u... on the education system.. Jamaicans are educated inspite of the system.. I know after all I never finished grade 6 much less grade 5, 4,3 or 2 and it is irritating to say the least when the lie that our education system in the 70's and 80's was better than today...At the moment it is abysmal.. then it was worse.. Too often this is repeated by those who were urban and middle class and who attended the so called elite schools...

Imagine putting a 9 or 10 year old to do the common entrance exam??? then imposing the idea that they are dunhce because they "failed" after not being taught the exam sylabus ???.. How many witnessed children being humiliated.. Blame the victijm.. This mentality is a throe back, and to this day I still hear repeated. "im mussa do sinting why den shoot im!" is part of the same paradigm...

it would have been more honest to tell the truth to the people back then.. We dont have the resources to educated.. the luck ones get through.(also remove the possibility that parents can pay to get their children in). And increase the capacity of elite high schools by 14 % a year from the 1950's... That 1 high school a year (that also means that that there had to be increase in number of teachers and increase in ivestment in primary education)... What has happened instead two sudden quntum leaps in education with out the resources both persnonnell and financial to have a fully functioning system.. Jamal from a public education perspective was a failure... free education in the 70's was a moderate falure, the introduction of gmat is still out to question.. the first cohorts have showed no statistical improvement from the previous cohorts....

I do concurr with you that Jamaicans bring surprisingly successful individual scholars.. Well u claim to be one..

Back to the original argument.. Jamaicans dont buy into their system..

African proved the best time to plant a tree is twenty years ago, seacond best is today...

**Derek** · 01-04-2010, 08:44 AM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You ever listen to a lot of the Irish cultural music?
You probably do not realize that in the 60's police use to shoot in crowds of demonstrators. They use to murder people with dread locks.</div></div>

I didn't know Irish people had dreadlocks.

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