Indian KKK news cartoon angers Australia police

**evanovitch** · 01-08-2010, 01:30 PM

Re: Indian KKK news cartoon angers Australia police

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: H_O</div><div class="ubbcode-body">, when are people of the non caucasian ethnicity </div></div>

some so-called scientists "classify" indians as "caucasians"...
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Most North Indians, Pakistanis, Iranians and Afghans are. </div></div>

and the ones in the Caribbean consider demselves dat way...read a fascinating paper re this the other day..muss see if i can find it an post it here...it was about Trini n Guyanes Indians

**Dr.Dudd** · 01-08-2010, 01:33 PM

Re: Indian KKK news cartoon angers Australia police

Well look up Lawler jerga.<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> well the word caucus actually originated in that region, and still exist in places like Afghanistan as the form of government</div></div>

actually it originated in the american colonies in the 17th century...at least it is generally believed to be ....caucus is used everywhere NOW in political parley </div></div>

**evanovitch** · 01-08-2010, 01:36 PM

Conflict between East-Indian and Blacks in Trinidad and Guya

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> In the early 1900’s Garveyism and other black intellectuals began to preach "Africa for Africans" which spurred a great resurgence in Afro-centricity and black pride, which furthered the divide between Indian and black.

Almost simultaneously there was resurgence in regaining ties with India. Indo Guyanese and Indo Trinidadian women began wearing Indian garb. These factors all compounded to widening the divide between these two races. In Trinidad, the black pride resurgence led to the February Revolt, which at first was a labor dispute then incorporated racial overtones.

<span style="font-weight: bold">An IndoTrinidadian said this in regards to the resurgence of Black Pride and power</span>:

<span style="font-style: italic">The Black Power leaders underestimated the importance of these divisions, and failed to provide the necessary groundwork within the Indian community. The term "black" moreover, generally referred to persons of predominantly African descent. <span style="font-weight: bold">Most Indians</span> did not regard themselves as being black. </span>

In a letter to the editor, for example an Indian writer responded negatively to having been categorized as such by the Black Power Movement:

<span style="font-weight: bold">"I object to being black.. Indian belong to the Caucasian or "white" race... why then call Indians black?"
... You the Black Power members are asking us to join you in your march for power.. Your sudden interest in the East Indian sugar worker is viewed with suspicion... We are not prepared to support you</span>."

A statement only proving that there ill feelings towards each other are still present. Black Power or even Indian
Power has no place in Guyana and Trinidad, although it advances both peoples, it ignores the existence, of
each other. A concept that will only destroy the slow integration process that already exists here: an integration,
which is anxiously anticipated by both groups.

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**evanovitch** · 01-08-2010, 01:39 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Well look up Lawler jerga.</div></div>

tried to an dis is whe mi get...fi some reason dere is nothing wid dem two words togedda

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**evanovitch** · 01-08-2010, 01:43 PM

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and then there is this to bolster my memory

Search: Search Mode Natural Language Find single term Find any term Find exact phrase
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZcaucus
1763, Amer.Eng., perhaps from caucauasu "counselor" in the Algonquian dialect of Virginia, or the Caucus Club of Boston, a 1760s social & political club whose name possibly derived from Mod.Gr. kaukos "drinking cup." Another candidate is caulker's (meeting). The verb is from 1850.
primary
1471, "of the first order," from L. primarius "of the first rank, chief, principal, excellent," from primus "first" (see prime (adj.) ). Primary color is first recorded 1612; primary school is 1802, from Fr. école primaire.
"The Paris journals ... are full of a plan, brought forward by Fourcroy, for the establishment of primary schools, which is not interesting to an English reader." [London "Times," April 27, 1802]
Primary election is recorded from 1792, with ref. to France; in a U.S. context, recorded from 1835; earlier primary caucus (1821).

**R_C** · 01-08-2010, 01:44 PM

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Loya Jirga.

**evanovitch** · 01-08-2010, 01:45 PM

Re: Conflict between East-Indian and Blacks in Trinidad and Guya

re caucasian

Caucasian
1807, from Caucasus Mountains, between the Black and Caspian seas; applied to the "white" race 1795 (in Ger.) by Ger. anthropologist Johann Blumenbach, because their supposed ancestral homeland lay there; since abandoned as a historical/anthropological term. Lit. meaning "resident or native of the Caucasus" is from 1843 (see Caucasus).
ergative
1943, grammatical case used for the subjects of transitive verbs (in Eskimo, Basque, Caucasian languages), from Gk. ergatos "workman."
Ainu
people native to northern Japan and far eastern Russia, 1819, from the Ainu self-designation, lit. "man, human." Once considered to be Caucasian based on their appearance, DNA testing has disproven this. Their language is an isolate with no known relatives.
Mameluke
1511, Egyptian dynasty 1254-1517, originally a military unit comprised of Caucasian slaves, from Arabic mamluk "purchased slave," lit. "possessed," from pp. of malaka "he possessed" (cf. Arabic malik, Heb. melekh "king&quot

.
Aryan
c.1600, as a term in classical history, from L. Arianus, Ariana, from Gk. Aria, Areia, names applied in classical times to the eastern part of ancient Persia and to its inhabitants. Ancient Persians used the name in ref. to themselves (O.Pers. ariya-), hence Iran. Ult. from Skt. arya- "compatriot;" in later language "noble, of good family." Also the name Sanskrit-speaking invaders of India gave themselves in the ancient texts, from which early 19c. European philologists (Friedrich Schlegel, 1819, who linked the word with Ger. Ehre "honor&quot

applied it to the ancient people we now call Indo-Europeans (suspecting that this is what they called themselves); this use is attested in Eng. from 1851. The term fell into the hands of racists, and in Ger. from 1845 it was specifically contrasted to Semitic (Lassen). Ger. philologist Max Müller (1823-1900) popularized the term in his writings on comparative linguistics, recommending it as the name (replacing Indo-European, Indo-Germanic, Caucasian, Japhetic) for the group of related, inflected languages connected with these peoples, mostly found in Europe but also including Sanskrit and Persian. Arian was used in this sense from 1839 (and is more philologically correct), but this spelling caused confusion with Arian, the term in ecclesiastical history. Gradually replaced in comparative linguistics c.1900 by Indo-European, except when used to distinguish I.E. languages of India from non-I.E. ones. Used in Nazi ideology to mean "member of a Caucasian Gentile race of Nordic type." As an ethnic designation, however, it is properly limited to Indo-Iranians (most justly to the latter) and has fallen from general academic use since the Nazi era.
Georgia
the U.S. state was named for King George II of Great Britain. The Caucasian nation is so-called for St. George, who is its patron saint (his cult there may continue that of a pre-Christian deity with whom he was later identified), but the name also is said to derive from Arabic or Pers. Kurj, or Gurz (the form in the earliest sources), said to be a name of the native people, of unknown origin. In modern Georgia, the name of the country is Sakartvelo and the people's name is Kartveli.
flesh
O.E. flæsc "flesh, meat," also "near kindred" (a sense now obsolete except in phrase flesh and blood), common W. and N.Gmc. (cf. O.Fris. flesk, M.L.G. vlees, Ger. Fleisch "flesh," O.N. flesk "pork, bacon&quot

, of unknown origin, perhaps from P.Gmc. *flaiskoz-. Figurative use for "animal or physical nature of man" (O.E.), is from the Bible, especially Paul's use of Gk. sarx, which yielded sense of "sensual appetites" (c.1200). Flesh-wound is from 1670s; flesh-color, the hue of "Caucasian" skin, is first recorded 1610s, described as a tint composed of "a light pink with a little yellow" [O'Neill, "Dyeing," 1862]. An O.E. poetry-word for "body" was flæsc-hama, lit. "flesh-home."

**evanovitch** · 01-08-2010, 01:48 PM

Re: Conflict between East-Indian and Blacks in Trinidad and Guya

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rollin_Calf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Loya Jirga. </div></div>

tonx mi neva recognise Doc's patois version...

still dis is from said info re the Loya Jirga n i quote :

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Mirwais Khan Hotak's three Jirgas held in the <span style="font-weight: bold">beginning of 18th century </span>helped the people of Afghanistan to liberate western part of Afghanistan from the ruthless Saffavid ruler, Gurgin, in the year 1707.
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**R_C** · 01-08-2010, 01:51 PM

Re: Conflict between East-Indian and Blacks in Trinidad and Guya

Mi know, but I doubt the doc will go down without a fight..

**evanovitch** · 01-08-2010, 01:53 PM

Re: Conflict between East-Indian and Blacks in Trinidad and Guya

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rollin_Calf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mi know, but I doubt the doc will go down without a fight.. </div></div>

if u ha di time read that article re Trin/Guyanese Indians..it is too interesting..

**R_C** · 01-08-2010, 01:57 PM

Re: Conflict between East-Indian and Blacks in Trinidad and Guya

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[if u ha di time read that article re Trin/Guyanese Indians..it is too interesting.. </div></div>

yes it is...remind me of my days at UWI back in the day, wi was all "one"...to a point..

**evanovitch** · 01-08-2010, 02:00 PM

Re: Conflict between East-Indian and Blacks in Trinidad and Guya

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rollin_Calf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[if u ha di time read that article re Trin/Guyanese Indians..it is too interesting.. </div></div>

yes it is...remind me of my days at UWI back in the day, wi was all "one"...to a point.. </div></div>

yep..said way is mostly Indian Trinidadians who coming to Jamaica as dem buy us (ahm invest ) out...fi real...

**jah_yout** · 01-08-2010, 02:01 PM

Re: Indian KKK news cartoon angers Australia police

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: H_O</div><div class="ubbcode-body">, when are people of the non caucasian ethnicity </div></div>

some so-called scientists "classify" indians as "caucasians"...
</div></div>

Most North Indians, Pakistanis, Iranians and Afghans are. </div></div>

so they tell me...
but to me sounds like another useless made-up word...

if humanity originated in africa & supposedly migrated to the rest of the world then how can they justify a term which means originating from the caucasus mountains??
then proceeded to populate europe, asia & north africa?!?
they call it "scientific classifications', but i call it f--kery...
why are these "cucasian" brothers having problems in australia?
whatever happened to racial solidarity?

::kisteet::

**jah_yout** · 01-08-2010, 02:04 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">re caucasian

Caucasian
1807, from Caucasus Mountains, between the Black and Caspian seas; applied to the "white" race 1795 (in Ger.) by Ger. anthropologist Johann Blumenbach, because their supposed ancestral homeland lay there; since abandoned as a historical/anthropological term. Lit. meaning "resident or native of the Caucasus" is from 1843 (see Caucasus).
ergative
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this word "caucasian" is completely useless but the world has been deceived once again by european so-called scientist tricknology to mesmerize their brain

**R_C** · 01-08-2010, 02:06 PM

Re: Conflict between East-Indian and Blacks in Trinidad and Guya

Yuh tink seh a one brederin mi know bout who did hook up wid a Trini Indian and when time come fi goh meet Mommy and Daddy dem get dem feelings hurt ?

Jack Mandora ....

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