healthcare ting

[blugiant]

soo da demonkkrats finallee passed dem bad healthcare bill usinn reconcilliation. iff obama push fii reconcilliation fram de begininn instead aff bowinn to dem republikkans, de demonkkrats cood ave passed a stronger healthcare bill.


still no public option ar single payer system dat moas merikkans supported.

soo watt oonnoo ting bout de passinn aff de healthcare bill? iss itt a victoree fii obama ann de demonkrats?

[Wendy]

Re: healthcare ting

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">soo da demonkkrats finallee passed dem bad healthcare bill usinn reconcilliation. <span style="font-weight: bold">iff obama push fii reconcilliation fram de begininn instead aff bowinn to dem republikkans, de demonkkrats cood ave passed a stronger healthcare bill.</span>


still no public option ar single payer system dat moas merikkans supported.

soo watt oonnoo ting bout de passinn aff de healthcare bill? iss itt a victoree fii obama ann de demonkrats? </div></div>
Lang Time Howard Dean did a tell im fi go troo wid dat ..But I do understand why he had to do the &quot;reaching out&quot; ting in the beggining. Mi juss cudenn understand why im tek so long fi &quot;get it&quot; sey the GOP no want im succeed.

I am happy for them ..this is HUGE and the GOP look a little deflated as much as them still have tough talk. Imagine all di lies and antics yuh do an yuh still noh defeat Obama - that has got to hurt

Anyway the DEMS have nuff selling left to do dowe cause some damage has been done from last yr and so the heavy lifting continues.

[Wendy]

Re: healthcare ting

Love this imagery.

Look how Joe Biden a buff up im chess.. so proud a di moment

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[kia027]

Re: healthcare ting

It is a start.

Reform Begins
Posted by Dan Pfeiffer on March 22, 2010 at 08:36 AM EDT

After more than a year of extensive debate, the House voted last night to pass the most significant health reform legislation this country has seen in decades. It was a historic victory for the American people. And now, millions of Americans – workers, families, seniors, small business owners – stand to benefit from lower health care costs, expanded coverage and tough consumer protections.

This year, thousands of uninsured Americans with pre-existing conditions will have the opportunity to purchase quality, affordable health insurance. Beginning in 2010, small business owners will no longer be forced to choose between offering health care and hiring new employees because they’ll be offered tax credits of up to 35 percent of premiums to help insure their employees. Medicare beneficiaries will no longer wonder how they’ll afford their prescription drug bills because they’ll be given a rebate of $250 if they hit the prescription drug donut hole in 2010. And early retirees will be provided help through the creation of a temporary re-insurance program to help offset the costs of expensive premiums.

This year, you will now have the security of knowing that insurers cannot deny coverage to your child because of a pre-existing condition. You won’t have to live every day in fear of having your insurance taken away from you if you get sick. And for new plans, there won’t be lifetime or restrictive annual limits on the amount of care you receive from your insurance companies.

Because we didn’t settle for the status quo, Americans who have insurance will now have the security and stability of knowing their coverage will be there when they need it most, and the millions of Americans who don’t have insurance will be provided with quality, affordable options. The legislation passed last night brings down health care costs for American families and small businesses, expands coverage to millions of Americans and ends the worst practices of insurance companies. And it begins to do so this year.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/03/21/reform-begins-now

[halfwaytree]

Re: healthcare ting

As someone who lives in a country that has universal healthcare I could never fully grasp what the big deal was. Everyne is entitled to access healthcare (rich and poor alike) PERIOD!

[Wendy]

Re: healthcare ting

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Curmudgeon_Milo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As someone who lives in a country that has universal healthcare I could never fully grasp what the big deal was. Everyne is entitled to access healthcare (rich and poor alike) PERIOD! </div></div>

Not here in this great USA.. moas people here still believe sey the poor, blacks and di not so weatlhy muss be left out a di pie. Di kina comments mi read pan dis subject is mind boggling. Some people in this country have some deep seeded harted for their fellow men. It's a crying shame.

There is one thing Obama should have done in his plan

The funny thing is the same people who cry down the bill and spew hatred toward it are going to be the SAME a-holes who will gladly take advantage of the benefits (hyprocrits!). If only he had put in a way to get&amp;#65279; those people in a Database and DENY them coverage because of their pre-existing NASTY attitudes that woulda help cut some cost.

[blugiant]

Re: healthcare ting

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wendilina</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blakkgiant</div><div class="ubbcode-body">soo da demonkkrats finallee passed dem bad healthcare bill usinn reconcilliation. <span style="font-weight: bold">iff obama push fii reconcilliation fram de begininn instead aff bowinn to dem republikkans, de demonkkrats cood ave passed a stronger healthcare bill.</span>


still no public option ar single payer system dat moas merikkans supported.

soo watt oonnoo tink bout de passinn aff de healthcare bill? iss itt a victoree fii obama ann de demonkrats? </div></div>
Lang Time Howard Dean did a tell im fi go troo wid dat ..But I do understand why he had to do the &quot;reaching out&quot; ting in the beggining. Mi juss cudenn understand why im tek so long fi &quot;get it&quot; sey the GOP no want im succeed.

I am happy for them ..this is HUGE and the GOP look a little deflated as much as them still have tough talk. Imagine all di lies and antics yuh do an yuh still noh defeat Obama - that has got to hurt

Anyway the DEMS have nuff selling left to do dowe cause some damage has been done from last yr and so the heavy lifting continues. </div></div>

imm wass lissenninn to rahm woo tell imm fii deal widd joe lieberman ann settle fii likkle victaree. obama neva waan fii gitt imm hand duttee soo imm played nice gat sukkered ann add fii settle fii bad healthcare ting. ow politrixxstah know awlmoas 70 parcent aff merikkans favar publikk aption ann imm neva negotiated bettar

obama got a victoree butt november electshan will tell iff da demonkrats realle won.

[blugiant]

Re: healthcare ting

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Curmudgeon_Milo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As someone who lives in a country that has universal healthcare I could never fully grasp what the big deal was. Everyne is entitled to access healthcare (rich and poor alike) PERIOD! </div></div>


yu neva ear da seyinn iff life wass a ting money cood a buy rich wood live ann poor wood die

da biggar argument iss dat since a latt aff dem peeps widdout healthcare ar wukkinn class poor blakks oww forcinn poor peeps fii buy insurance instead aff food benefit dem

[MarieK]

Re: healthcare ting

and these ppl wiht pre-existing conditions are going to be covered immediately or grandfathered in?



other important tidbits

- the bill shifts the cost of the uninsured from taxpayer-subsidized emergency rooms to insurance companies and their policyholders

-the rich pay more to subsidize the poor, and the young and healthy pay more to offset the costs of the old and sick

-the most generous grants will be reserved for poor families, not single adults, and <span style="text-decoration: underline">those who opt not to buy coverage will face penalties of $695 a year under the bill</span>.

[blugiant]

Re: healthcare ting

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wendilina</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Curmudgeon_Milo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As someone who lives in a country that has universal healthcare I could never fully grasp what the big deal was. Everyne is entitled to access healthcare (rich and poor alike) PERIOD! </div></div>

Not here in this great USA.. moas people here still believe sey the poor, blacks and di not so weatlhy muss be left out a di pie. Di kina comments mi read pan dis subject is mind boggling. Some people in this country have some deep seeded harted for their fellow men. It's a crying shame.

There is one thing Obama should have done in his plan

The funny thing is the same people who cry down the bill and spew hatred toward it are going to be the SAME a-holes who will gladly take advantage of the benefits (hyprocrits!). If only he had put in a way to get&amp;#65279; those people in a Database and DENY them coverage because of their pre-existing NASTY attitudes that woulda help cut some cost. </div></div>

tea party cawl da mixxed race man ann lewis da n wurds

dem ask wan blakk cangress parsan iff ar braids wass too tite

cawl stupakk baby killer

den republikkkans leader xxcused itt sey itt wass onlee few impassioned peeps. den blakk sellout republikkans misleader tried fii spinn da n-wurd camment

wan aff dem republikkkan sed y shood da 85 parcent aff de peeps widd insurance affii pay fii da 15 parcent wey doan ave annee health insurance. nice wey aff seyinn y shood mzungu care bout moaslee blakks, latinos ann de few poor mzungu widdout insurance

bad bill ann mii bunn fiyah pon itt too. oww dem aggoo force peeps fii buy healthcare insurance ann deny da public da single payer aption ann de public option plan dat moas merikkan favored dat wood keep healthcare cost down. obama plan benefit dem big heathcare insurance companies more dan moas mmerikkans

[blugiant]

Re: healthcare ting

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Queen_of_d_A</div><div class="ubbcode-body">and these ppl wiht pre-existing conditions are going to be covered immediately or grandfathered in

</div></div>

mii wandar iff pregnancy still cansidar pre-existing? mi awlso wandar iff oomen wey gitt abused still qualify as havinn pre-existinn candition cah dem like fii gitt invalved inn annada abusive relationship

dem will gitt covered inn four ears ar bee force fii buy medicaid. dem cyaan shop arund rite now cah dem will remained widdout cover

dat include a latt aff blakks peeps

[MarieK]

STATES SUING TO BLOCK HEALTH CARE BILL

Less than 24 hours after the House of Representatives gave final approval to a sweeping overhaul of healthcare, attorneys general from several states on Monday said they will sue to block the plan on constitutional grounds.

Republican attorneys general in 11 states warned that lawsuits will be filed to stop the federal government overstepping its constitutional powers and usurping states' sovereignty.

States are concerned the burden of providing healthcare will fall on them without enough federal support.

Ten of the attorneys general plan to band together in a collective lawsuit on behalf of Alabama, Florida, Nebraska, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Utah and Washington.

&quot;To protect all Texans' constitutional rights, preserve the constitutional framework intended by our nation's founders, and defend our state from further infringement by the federal government, the State of Texas and other states will legally challenge the federal health care legislation,&quot; said Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott, in a statement.

The Republican attorney generals say the reforms infringe on state powers under the Constitution's Bill of Rights.

Virginia Attorney General Kenneth Cuccinelli, who plans to file a lawsuit in federal court in Richmond, Virginia, said Congress lacks authority under its constitutional power to regulate interstate commerce to force people to buy insurance. The bill also conflicts with a state law that says Virginians cannot be required to buy insurance, he added.

&quot;If a person decides not to buy health insurance, that person by definition is not engaging in commerce,&quot; Cuccinelli said in recorded comments. &quot;If you are not engaging in commerce, how can the federal government regulate you?&quot;

In addition to the pending lawsuits, bills and resolutions have been introduced in at least 36 state legislatures seeking to limit or oppose various aspects of the reform plan through laws or state constitutional amendments, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

So far, only two states, Idaho and Virginia, have enacted laws, while an Arizona constitutional amendment is seeking voter approval on the November ballot. But the actual enactment of the bill by President Barack Obama could spur more movement on the measures by state lawmakers.

As is the case on the Congressional level, partisan politics is in play on the state level, where no anti-health care reform legislation has emerged in Democrat-dominated states like Illinois and New York, according to the NCSL.

Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum, a Republican candidate running for governor, said the mandate would cost Florida at least $1.6 billion in Medicaid alone.

All states would receive extra funding to cover Medicaid costs that are expected to rise under the reform, including 100 percent federal coverage for new enrollees under the plan through 2016.

Medicaid is the healthcare program for the poor jointly administered by the states and federal government.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics...l#ixzz0ix2xaf3l

[kia027]

Re: healthcare ting

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Curmudgeon_Milo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As someone who lives in a country that has universal healthcare I could never fully grasp what the big deal was. Everyne is entitled to access healthcare (rich and poor alike) PERIOD! </div></div>

Healthcare is not a right in the US Milo that is the difference. Forty years ago similar fights were held regarding Medicare. Grayson from Florida (I think) had a very straightforward solution. Expand Medicare coverage to those who want it.

[sistacaf]

Re: healthcare ting

feh. it's a CIVIL right
regardless of the eediat american capitalist government, who <span style="font-style: italic">make it</span> an economic issue, instead of a human one.

<span style="font-weight: bold">finally</span> somebody actually takes a crack at <span style="font-style: italic">doing</span> something instedda just talktalktalk. and of course these bozos can't do nothin but tear it down.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Less than 24 hours after the House of Representatives gave final approval to a sweeping overhaul of healthcare, attorneys general from several states on Monday said they will sue to block the plan on constitutional grounds. </div></div>

:SMDH:

i swearta<span style="font-style: italic">GOD</span> i'm turnin in my murican card.

[kia027]

Re: healthcare ting

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sistacaf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">feh. it's a CIVIL right
regardless of the eediat american capitalist government, who <span style="font-style: italic">make it</span> an economic issue, instead of a human one.

<span style="font-weight: bold">finally</span> somebody actually takes a crack at <span style="font-style: italic">doing</span> something instedda just talktalktalk. and of course these bozos can't do nothin but tear it down.

i swearta<span style="font-style: italic">GOD</span> i'm turnin in my murican card. </div></div>

I know what you are saying but the republicans act like healthcare is a privilege and not a right