Hurled Bricks, Threats Surround Health Overhaul.

[halfwaytree]

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Every publicly funded health care plan is cause for bitter complaint but sooner or latter the vast majority of the population will be in need of it and will be thankful for it.

[MarieK]

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Seriously, did you all think that America had done away with it's racist ways. I mean seriously? I am amazed at the amazement of many who think OMG this is happening in America????

come on ppl be real even tho i think this is abt healthcare it is largely due to the man who presented it.

If he were a white man (not even hillary cd get away with it) I'm sure there wd be some pressure but they'd get over it.

I'm just surprised it took this long. I was expecting democrats being ruled by a black man to be targeted a long time ago, now THAT is what amazes me.

you have an elected official calling welfare recipients stray dogs and another calling another baby killer these ppl are leaders so what did u expect from their constituents.

kissteet - mi juss a pray him get outa dis ting alive an tek him wife an two pickney afta dis term done and lay low it's an ugly world out there.

[britisha]

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I find it hilarious that there are those who would purport to understand this hommuch hundred page piece of legislation. I'm sure there are people who voted for and against it who don't really understand what is wrapped up inside...it is so "collosal."


DUH !!!

[Marilyn]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: J kid</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Video: Maan dem hav son sick, angry folks out deh!

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/politics/hurled-bricks-threats-surround-health-overhaul-100324

Updated: Wednesday, 24 Mar 2010, 10:33 PM EDT
Published : Wednesday, 24 Mar 2010, 10:33 PM EDT

EMILY WAGSTER PETTUS
Associated Press Writer

Unrest over sweeping federal health care legislation has turned to vandalism and threats, with bricks hurled through Democrats' windows, a propane line cut at the home of a congressman's brother and menacing phone messages left for lawmakers who supported the bill.

The FBI is investigating the instances, which include shattered windows at four Democratic offices in New York, Arizona and Kansas. At least 10 members of Congress have reported some sort of threat as of Wednesday, and no arrests have been made.

The brick flung through the window of a county Democratic Party office in Rochester, N.Y., over the weekend had a note attached: &quot;Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice,&quot; roughly quoting 1964 Republican presidential nominee Barry Goldwater.

A New York congresswoman whose office window also was smashed with a brick accused the Republican leadership of failing to denounce attacks against lawmakers who supported the legislation. The vandalism was at Democratic Rep. Louise Slaughter's district office in Niagara Falls early Friday, two days before the House passed the health care overhaul bill.

&quot;It's more disturbing to me that Republican leadership has not condemned these attacks and instead appears to be fanning the flames with coded rhetoric,&quot; said Slaughter, a key supporter of the bill.

House Republican leader John Boehner of Ohio said in a statement that while many Americans are angry over the bill's passage, &quot;violence and threats are unacceptable.&quot;

&quot;That's not the American way,&quot; Boehner said. &quot;We need to take that anger and channel it into positive change.&quot;

The FBI and Capitol Police were briefing Democratic lawmakers on how to handle perceived security threats, said House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md. Those who feel they are at risk will be &quot;getting attention from the proper authorities,&quot; Hoyer said, declining to say whether any are receiving extra security. Normally only those in leadership positions have personal security guards.

At a news conference in Washington, Hoyer said people have yelled that Democratic lawmakers should be put on firing lines and posters have appeared with the faces of lawmakers in the cross hairs of a target.

While not directly criticizing Republicans, Hoyer said that &quot;any show of appreciation for such actions encourages such action.&quot;

Gun imagery was used in a posting on the Facebook page of Sarah Palin urging people to organize against 20 House Democrats who voted for the health care bill and whose districts went for the John McCain-Palin ticket two years ago. Palin's post featured a U.S. map with circles and cross hairs over the 20 districts.

Some of the anger over the bill spilled over in a flood of obscenity and threat-filled phone and fax messages to the office of Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich. His office released some of the messages it has received since the health care bill passed, declining to add further comment.

&quot;I hope you bleed ... (get) cancer and die,&quot; one male caller told the congressman between curses.

A fax with the title &quot;Defecating on Stupak&quot; carried a picture of a gallows with &quot;Bart (SS) Stupak&quot; on it and a noose attached. It was captioned, &quot;All Baby Killers come to unseemly ends Either by the hand of man or by the hand of God.&quot;

The vandalism and threats surprised a researcher at a think tank that monitors extremist groups.

&quot;I think it is astounding that we are seeing this wave of vigilantism,&quot; said Mark Potok of the Alabama-based Southern Poverty Law Center.

In Virginia, someone cut a propane line leading to a grill at the Charlottesville home of U.S. Rep. Tom Perriello's brother after the address was posted online by activists angry about the health care overhaul. Perriello also said a threatening letter was sent to his brother's house. The FBI and local authorities were investigating.

Tea party activists had posted the brother's address online thinking it was the congressman's home. The post urged opponents to drop by and &quot;express their thanks&quot; for the Democrat's vote in favor of the sweeping health care reform.

Nigel Coleman, chairman of the Danville Tea Party, said he re-posted the comment that originated on another conservative blog, including the address, Monday on his Facebook page. The posts were taken down after the mistake was discovered.

&quot;We've never been associated with any violence or any vandalism,&quot; he said. &quot;We're definitely sorry that we posted the incorrect address.&quot;

Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli, who has filed a lawsuit challenging the health care overhaul and is a favorite of the Tea Party, said for activists to post an address of Perriello's family shows that things are going too far.

&quot;That is way over the line,&quot; he said. &quot;It's not civil discourse, it's an invitation to intimidation and it's totally unacceptable.&quot;

Potok compared the online posting of a public official's address to tactics used by hate groups.

&quot;This is what neo Nazi leaders in America do today,&quot; Potok said. &quot;They post personal information about their enemies
and sit back and wait for somebody else to act.&quot;

Lyndsay Stauble, executive director of the Sedgwick County Democratic Party in Wichita, Kan., said a brick was hurled through the party's storefront plate glass window late Friday or early Saturday, landing in her office and gouging her wooden desk.

She said that written in marker on the brick were the slogans, &quot;No to Obama&quot; and &quot;No Obamycare.&quot;

&quot;The tone is not surprising, but the aggressiveness is,&quot; Stauble said Wednesday. &quot;I'm not shocked that people are not reacting well to a large piece of legislation passed by a president that they don't like.&quot;

In Tucson, Ariz., someone either kicked in or shot out a glass door and a side window at the congressional office of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords early Monday, a few hours after the House health care vote. Giffords voted for the bill.

Giffords' press secretary C.J. Karamargin in Tucson said the vandalism left the local congressional staff shaken and worried.

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Associated Press writers David N. Goodman in Detroit, Dena Potter and Bob Lewis in Richmond, Va., Ben Dobbin in Rochester, N.Y., Mark Carlson in Phoenix and Laurie Kellman in Washington contributed to this report.
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AS a child of the 60's I am very familiar with civil unrest and riots. Actually, compared to Watts and the riots after King was killed, these folks are amateurs.

[Marielle]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nanook</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I can't freekin believe, I mean, I really cannot believe that ANYONE would be opposed to EVERYONE having access to health care.

What a bunch of selfish bastards.

And bringing racial slurs to the mix is unconscionable.</div></div>



I couldn't believe it when I was in San Francisco 10 years ago how many people were living on the (Market St.)streets......
The only place worse than that was India!!! And that for the so-called richest nation on earth.
Yea, it really beggars belief that some people would prefer them not to have it.

We might biatch about the high taxes in this country, but I am glad we do not live in a society like USA.

[britisha]

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Now the Repubs are complaining that they are receiving threats as well.

With all the technological advancements homo sapiens have accomplished, socially many haven't left the caves.

[Marilyn]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Faithfully</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now the Repubs are complaining that they are receiving threats as well.

With all the technological advancements homo sapiens have accomplished, socially many haven't left the caves. </div></div>Girl this country was birthed out of civil unrest, it is the Plymouth Rock it was built on...what's supposed to change????

[britisha]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Marilyn</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Faithfully</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now the Repubs are complaining that they are receiving threats as well.

With all the technological advancements homo sapiens have accomplished, socially many haven't left the caves. </div></div>Girl this country was birthed out of civil unrest, it is the Plymouth Rock it was built on...what's supposed to change???? </div></div>

You are making a good point Marilyn, about the founding of this country; but ppl were supposed to be uncivil then...if it must progress the ppl must learn how to disagree without the violence.

[Blackstar*]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Faithfully</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now the Repubs are complaining that they are receiving threats as well. </div></div>How convenient. I wonder if liberals are bringing shotguns to Tea Parties too and waving them at Republican speakers...
They really take people for idiots.

ETA:
I know the general public usually has a short memory, but the disingenuousness of the Republicans truly knows no bounds.

Remember this idiot exercising his rights? Can Republicans and assimilated right-wingers sincerely say they feel threatened in the same way by liberals?

[britisha]

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That IS the problem, they are running on short memory and short fuses.

They better quit while they are ahead, for no taxpayer dollah should be invested in settling court cases that revolve around who started what first, ie who is to be blamed and not be blamed for retaliating.

btw ...Sarah Palin needs to shut her claptrap.

[Wendy]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Curmudgeon_Milo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Every publicly funded health care plan is cause for bitter complaint but sooner or latter the vast majority of the population will be in need of it and will be thankful for it. </div></div>

Mi sey Milo .. Mi sey mi dey ina mi bed a night time a laff affa di ediats dem ..Mi stated before that Barrack shoulda ammend di Bill an mek sure who noh want it get DENIED access to the benifits ..Mek dem sign up an sey dem waan Insurance companies fi descrimate gainst dem etc. What dem noh realize is dat dem fit, nice an healthy now. All dem do nowadays a go a Dacta fi lickle head cole an dem get cough medicine and whoopie woooohhh ..what a nice system wi have

Wait til dem same people tek up cancer or any other chronic sickness an si how faas dem grab up OBAMACARE as dem call it. Yuh si how dem a defen Medicare now? Wey did happen when Medicare pass?? No di same holy war did a gwaan an di racial slurs an bakkle flinging? Butdi same racist dem a tun 65 now an cyan wait fi tek di Govament Handout wey dem rail gainst ina di 60s. Ignorance is bliss as dem sey.

Obama had it right -wedda or not this is political suicide is the RIGHT thing to do for this country. And all wi need fi do is elect more DEMS fi cantinue improving the bill.

[j-kid]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wendilina</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Obama had it right -wedda or not this is political suicide is the RIGHT thing to do for this country. And all wi need fi do is elect more DEMS fi cantinue improving the bill. </div></div>

Di Democratic party hav ah bunch ah wussies in deh. Dis ting was put in del laps, an dem drag dem feet til dem loose di super-majority. Dem couldn't find dem butt if yuh place dem hand pan wan ah dem lower cheeks.

Man dis ting should ah did pass long ago if dem didn't waffle dis long! Di whole ah dem need tuh bi severly flogged!

[barosa]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: J kid</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wendilina</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Obama had it right -wedda or not this is political suicide is the RIGHT thing to do for this country. And all wi need fi do is elect more DEMS fi cantinue improving the bill. </div></div>

Di Democratic party hav ah bunch ah wussies in deh. Dis ting was put in del laps, an dem drag dem feet til dem loose di super-majority. Dem couldn't find dem butt if yuh place dem hand pan wan ah dem lower cheeks.

Man dis ting should ah did pass long ago if dem didn't waffle dis long! Di whole ah dem need tuh bi severly flogged! </div></div>
J kid, Right Onn Bro!!! ~ They dragged their &quot;fipping&quot; feet until they LOST the super majority! ~ I can just imagine how Ted Kennedy must be spinning in his grave.... Because of that they had to re-group and come back which heightened the anger of the Repugnats... I still have to give them credit for the recent effort. Of course it was a &quot;bleeping&quot; big deal as Biden said and I'm sure his boss agreed...
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[Wendy]

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As yuh a talk bout Biden .. Mi sey I love dat man so til . Unu notice sey nat even republicans have anyting bad fi sey bout Biden ..it's so hard not to like dat man

Dis is a true story ..Biden sey im went to apologize to Barack fi cuss di badwod and Barack sey to him &quot;No that's alright Joe.. that was the righ thing to say about the moment&quot; Hear Biden to him &quot;Then if it was the right thing to say ..why didn't you say it?&quot; An di 2 a dem BOAL

Gotta love Joe's sense of humour