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bounty and beenie plus oddas boy Coke really mess up everybody bread adn butta eeeh
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yes me dear, can u imagine~~
de odder day on the CVM, u waan hear one ole eediat ooman a say ohhh Dudus send me pickney dem go a school, Dudus dis, Dudus dat, and hear dis, Dudus next to God, me just fe shake me head, and pray God never hear her~~
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so first elected officials entertainers and then guess who is next - reg visa holders aye sahComment
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ope Juhmaica noh deh pan dem hit liss.Comment
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SistaCtry</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
<span style="font-weight: bold">de odder day on the CVM</span>, u waan hear one ole eediat ooman a say ohhh Dudus send me pickney dem go a school, Dudus dis, Dudus dat, and hear dis, Dudus next to God, me just fe shake me head, and pray God never hear her~~ </div></div>
Which channel dat come pan Ctry? Mi waan know if mi get it a Jersey.
An anedda ting, is how long dem agoh hold di country hostage fi one smaddy???? Dem a process regular ppl filing tings or dem stap dat to?Comment
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Venn, all visa applications on hold babyluv, all lof dem~
and who ever have, a dem me sarry fah, because like Wayne Chin, him and him family book dem airfare, and a board plane, only to be told a dat time, dat him cant go, no man, dat wrong~~
now Beenie and Bounti, dem outta order~~
bout CVM, on sundays, at 2pm and 11pm u get the Cover Stories on CIN, in NY is channel 22, and 73, on Bablevision, and Verizon cable dem have it to, buti dont know dem digits~
this CIN
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Queen_of_d_A</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so first elected officials entertainers and then guess who is next - reg visa holders aye sah </div></div>
on the radio me hear dem a say, even de farm workers dem, who use to mek a likkle money and come back to Ja fe send dem kids to school and ting, all dem a get frigg yaa now~
bruce need a raatid lick inna him head, all fe wha, one ole cruff~~
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well bruce just announce seh him a guh let awfa di duddus ting suh watch an wait yah now when war stawt bruk loose yah now dung a yaad for u know seh a nuff shat a guh fiya from duddus supporter dem
but this is what puzzles me it's not the us visa alone, their visa for latin countries are also being cancelled which kinda mek mi suspec seh the us call in favors.
oh well i keep trying to picture the image of the pregnant woman in so fl begging for her life only to be shot to death and I have no sympathy for coke however, I really hope this blows up in Golding face if a war fi bruk out oh wellComment
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boy Queen, dis nuh look good at all, at all~~
all me can say is, dem complain say de odder one dem did have de country lack down fe 18yrs, but we never owe IMF, taxes never so radical, we did still own we lovebird, and ppl cudda travel all dem want,
look like dis man out fe tun we country upside down~~
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me just a hear dem say, bruce a go turn the dudus ting over to the courts, now wha dat mean, God he is to tell~
if him tink say dat a go tek de heat offa him from usa, him a mek a sad mistake~
me never hear say de visa ting a come from other places to, but dat surprise me, u tink a Ja alone ketch cold when america sneeze~Comment
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SistaCtry</div><div class="ubbcode-body">me just a hear dem say, bruce a go turn the dudus ting over to the courts, now wha dat mean, God he is to tell~
if him tink say dat a go tek de heat offa him from usa, him a mek a sad mistake~
me never hear say de visa ting a come from other places to, but dat surprise me, u tink a Ja alone ketch cold when america sneeze~ </div></div>
Yes Country ..
The Courts (Attorney General - Ms Lightbourne) needs to make a decision on the extradition offer from the USA ..
It is the legislative not the executive who has the power to deal with such matters ..Comment
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u know mi haffi laff ovah di visa ting...is like wen JLP use fi bawl seh Russian ship deh off Jca shore an people vote gainst PNP...now di PNP a tek dis visa ting like seh is gospel
wen people did a fight gainst Cuba lissening a yaad it was one ting...now di PM a fight gainst di US lissening a yaad n is anodda ting..memba seh Seaga did tell dem seh if dem no wan Jcans fi pik up dem premium channels dem fi move dem satellite from ovah di island
mi no seh Dudus like oddas before him no fi face a court but wich court is di big ? wich everyone a sell dem nation fi a visa but not giving tought tp....u sell out pon one ting n u wi ha nutten fi seh di nex time dem want sinting else
who following how Russia now is flooded wid heroin etc since di US turn a blind eye to di Afghan trade fi ovah deh...try watch a documentary on the daily funerals of young Russians
but Dudus eena dem craw as some bigtime kingpin..nobody naw ? how no uptown ones naw get cawl up n dem companies big an broad out in full view...n even di dumb man dem did tink was Haitian can sign so tell u wich big man a yaad bizniz build pon shipments to farrin...
as to artist visa...nuff country a cut bak pon yaad people from a wile now...artist may ha personal visitor visa but more time is work permit dem go pon..an each promoter file fi dat...some sheg an do oddda peopel show etc knowing it was illegal but every day u carry bucket to di well, one day , one day....some who did sign to farrin record company would someting ha dat company fit dem up wid visa so dem can travel pon a moment's notice...but farrin record company flat an naw do nutten...oonoo no read seh dat Matwateva him name is numba one pon Billboard reggae charts fi weeks now
den u ha artist who ha poice records fi weed n gun n odda tings a yaad..is one ting wen people wid power a flex pon u side but wen dem no deh bout , hey, u juss anodda commana
now, wen mi see dem Marley boys get dem visa revoke cause a fi dem weed charges a Miami ( memba seh some time ago Damian an Steven get drop eena dem Beemer wid some)
den mi wi seh , yes di US a sen a message
an mi hope seh all who a figet di legalities weh Bruce a use, wedda Dudus in don r not, it is a valid legality....fi PNP fi seh it is not is dem finally saying dat Gun Court was illegal cause dem did fight gainst dat being declared unconstitutional
finally, juss like Clinton di fuss blak prez did sheg Haiti n nuff more African countries while beign voted into every blak club in di US , is a blak president n a WI Attry General who oonoo wi ha mi tink a penalise Ja
we tell we self dat we cannot do widdout di US so we a bow ....well i say, close di airports,stiffen di visa entry, seize all dem illegal bizniz whe set up widdout proper papers an see if di people involved no bawl to fi dem govament rada dan dawg dem like how we a daaw gi wi constitution fi a visa... n see how fas dem Italian, Germans n Spanish not tmention di CHinese who all have dem kine a investment eena hotels etc would bawl an buck
people a go yaad go ray ray ovah breadfruit a ilelaloo..well, JCans , ban u belly an step up fi u Constitution na cawl a one bluff an see who wi come to u rescue...
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More here:
<span style="font-weight: bold">Dancehall Hit! United States Visa Woes Will Cost Jamaican Entertainers Big</span>
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Local dancehall stars Beenie Man, Bounty Killer, Mavado and Aidonia, as well as selector Ricky Trooper, are set to lose millions of dollars in earnings based on United States decision to revoke their visas.Comment
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SmoothOperator</div><div class="ubbcode-body">More here:
<span style="font-weight: bold">Dancehall Hit! United States Visa Woes Will Cost Jamaican Entertainers Big</span>
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Local dancehall stars Beenie Man, Bounty Killer, Mavado and Aidonia, as well as selector Ricky Trooper, are set to lose millions of dollars in earnings based on United States decision to revoke their visas. </div></div>
pure hype...pure hype....is eida dis r di odda newspaper ha big story bout how artist behaviour putting dem livelihood at risk...not to mention dat dancehall artist demand slow dung as culture etc mek a comebak...not to mention dat farrin reggae tekking di lead from JA reggae
dis is juss hype story fi continue di visa drasma...afta music no national security so y u ha 'insider' but no name given....
people a yaad always tek at face value anyting dat mek fi drasma....as to di millions, dem fi qualify seh dem men JA $ n not US as it lead fi seem
US music industry is FLAT but we r to believe dat reggae artist who depend pon John John n Desmond fi show in great demand at how much a pop...puhleeze..di ongle people who deh pon demand in dancehall is Sean Paul n maybe Sean Kingston....Damian of course if u want style him as dancehall...an dat is crossing cultural lines ...di ress a dem depend pon niche market an if dem no get put pon a show wid a big rap act r such , dem still a do club date...
even Japan a do dem own ting wid dem own reggae to di extent dat Japan is one of about 4 countries dat Bob album no chart and it noted juss weh day fi its standing record of being in di top 10 practically across di world...download included
mi so tyad of di ray ray ....we kill di music we self n is not visa come now fi toll fi it...we kill it wiself...Comment
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Dancehall hit! United States visa woes will cost Jamaican entertainers big
Local dancehall stars Beenie Man, Bounty Killer, Mavado and Aidonia, as well as selector Ricky Trooper, are set to lose millions of dollars in earnings based on United States decision to revoke their visas.
Last Wednesday, news came that the US had decided to revoke the visas of the five but, so far, there has been no word from the embassy in St Andrew as to why.
And even as Jamaicans speculate about the reason for the about-turn from the US Embassy, the fact is the decision brings devastating financial consequences for the four deejays and one sound-system operator.
All four deejays were scheduled for this year's staging of Best of the Best at Bicentennial Park, Miami, on May 30, with Beenie Man also slated for last night's Firestone Live in Orlando, Florida.
Mavado was to perform on April 23 at Sneaky Petes in New York and on May 8 at Club Nokia in Los Angeles.
Late January, it was reported that Aidonia's two-week stint in the US was going well, with dates in Bronx and Hartford, while a video recording of Ricky Trooper, made when he was in Atlanta, USA, for his birthday celebrations in January, was posted on YouTube in March.
In the video, Trooper brandishes what he later told The Sunday Gleaner was a lighter shaped like a handgun.
US market crucial
Clyde McKenzie, director of audio-visual content developer Fi Wi Choice, says the US market is "very important".
"All of them are dancehall acts and the biggest market for dancehall music is the US, I would say, when it comes to shows and that sort of thing. The earning potential is severely impaired for these acts."
Another music industry insider who spoke on condition of anonymity agreed.
"I would think that a third to a half of their shows would be in the US market." He also pointed out that there are implications for other markets as well, as not only might the authorities in other countries have a different perception of the entertainers involved, but the US is also a travel hub.
The music insider noted that to perform in many countries in Central America, Western Europe, the United Kingdom, Africa and Japan, the entertainers have to travel through the US.
He said the ban affects Beenie Man (based on the track record of his performances) and Mavado (riding on his current popularity) most, with Bounty Killer a distant third while Aidonia, a "young artiste", is just building his fan base.
There does not seem to be an income stream readily available to replace the US shows, and McKenzie points out that "touring is the biggest income stream in the music business. It has always been for reggae and dancehall".
Getting a fix on concert income for these entertainers is well nigh impossible, as the fees vary widely with the capacity of the venue and the type of performance (time and on tracks or with a band) among the determining factors.
While McKenzie estimates artistes' fees in the "tens of thousands to many multiples of that", the industry insider believes the entertainers collect between US$6,000 and US$15,000 for each show.
"But it can go lower," he cautions. "You can do a show for US$2,500. You pass through."
The slash in income, of course, affects everyone connected with the artiste, from backing band through to manager and booking agent.
As McKenzie puts it, there is a "kick-on" effect along the chain. In addition, if deposits have been collected for upcoming US shows and the artistes now cannot fulfil their contractual obligations, the money paid already should be returned. "Whether it could or would is another matter," McKenzie added.
"It affects their earnings. There is no replacement market. There is no market they are not exploiting," he said.
Whether this now creates an opportunity for other performers is debatable.
McKenzie said: "I suppose one could always look at this as the fall of one man is the rising of another. I don't know. The point is you might have some people who say we can't get Beenie and Bounty, we'll take the second tier. With Beenie, Bounty, Kartel, Buju out, you are running out of options."
However, where the danger lies may be in persons who live outside Jamaica stepping into the void - this in a situation where already foreign reggae acts have a very strong presence - and thus in turn reducing Jamaican artistes' income in the long run.
"In many places, you have reggae being part of their range of expression. That would have to be a consideration, as people from these places start emerging. That is a possibility," McKenzie said.
There is no doubt that the visa revocation comes at an already bad time. McKenzie said, "One of the things I've looked at is the world situation of different territories using different reasons for restricting us from entering them. Europe has concerns about the homophobic stuff, the Caribbean people tend to not talk about homophobia, but violence. The space is being restricted."
And, as the industry insider puts it, "I think this is another strategy to trap Jamaicans in Jamaica and keep them out of other areas. It may be self-inflicted, but the point is they are willing."Comment
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