Am I being too sensitive?

[sistactry]

Re: Am I being too sensitive?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wahalla</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> native people</div></div> would not say this is a particular sensitive commet/ phrase from a historical, perspective.. But then I think all yankis have this tendency to see us sophisticated people from the where they condisendinly refer to as the ubiquetous &quot;the islands&quot; as ignorant singers with charming accents who produce nothing but sprinters ... </div></div>



Serenity, nuh tek dis as offensive, wha him say is true for nuff ppl, a so dem really feel~~

[Yuriatin]

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<span style="font-size: 17pt"><span style="font-weight: bold">Tyler Perry: The mogul outside the machine</span></span>
By Breeanna Hare, Special to CNN
April 6, 2010 3:40 p.m. EDT


(CNN) -- Tyler Perry has done it yet again. His latest opus to the melodrama of marriage, &quot;Why Did I Get Married Too,&quot; landed at No. 2 at the box office last weekend, with a gross of $29 million.

But at this point in Perry's career, his ability to sell movie tickets in spite of mostly poor critical reception is no surprise. The 40-year-old actor, author and filmmaker has gone from promoting his own plays to become a full-fledged brand -- one that, although created outside of the Hollywood machine, is causing some industry people to take notice.

&quot;Perry's kind of unrivaled in the sense that he can open a movie no matter what; he really has tapped into a specific storytelling form,&quot; said Cinematical.com film critic Todd Gilchrist. &quot;At this point, he has such a consistent built-in audience, they're pretty much going to come out and see the movies no matter what, because they're familiar with his style.&quot;

Being a filmmaker with a following doesn't happen every day, Gilchrist points out, but that's just part of the reason the Perry brand stands out. Coupled with Perry's devoted audience is a shrewd head for business.

&quot;Perry's ['Why Did I get Married Too'] has already paid for itself,&quot; said Doug Brode, film historian and adjunct professor at Syracuse University's Newhouse School of Public Communications. &quot;Even if it drops off the chart for a couple of weeks, it goes to DVD and pay per view, and it's going to make a small fortune.&quot;

And Perry's business profile is diverse. He was executive producer on Lee Daniels' critically acclaimed movie &quot;Precious,&quot; authored the book &quot;Don't Make a Black Woman Take Off Her Earrings: Madea's Uninhibited Commentaries on Love and Life&quot; and continues to produce two original sitcoms, &quot;House of Payne&quot; and &quot;Meet the Browns,&quot; airing on TBS, owned by CNN parent company Time Warner.

As a result, Perry has become a filmmaker who is actually outside of Hollywood, and in a league with the Oprah Winfreys and Martha Stewarts of the world, said Lacey Rose, who edits the Forbes Celebrity 100, a list of the most powerful people in entertainment and entertainment-related industries.

According to Forbes, Perry earned $75 million from June 2008 to June 2009, making him the 30th most powerful celebrity and the 10th top earner for that year.

&quot;He's a media mogul who dabbles in everything. If nothing else, his success has taught the film industry not to underestimate Tyler Perry,&quot; Rose said. &quot;This is a guy that never stops. He has two television shows [and] several movies launching this year -- he's constantly working and providing product to his audience.&quot;

An audience -- predominately African-American, many of whom are the church-goers Hollywood thinks don't go to movies -- that was largely ignored by the industry until Perry came along, Rose pointed out.

&quot;He's proven that [his audience] is not a niche audience. He has a loyal relationship to them and he's had it for many years,&quot; she said. &quot;The reality is that he doesn't need Hollywood.&quot;

Film critics are also well aware that Perry's moviegoers aren't always interested in reviews. &quot;Madea Goes to Jail,&quot; not a critical favorite in 2009, had a $41 million opening weekend, going on to gross $90 million domestically.

Those may not be &quot;Avatar&quot; dollars, but Adam Nayman, a Toronto-based film critic and contributor to industry publications Eye Weekly and Cinema Scope, said Perry's box office openings are commendable, especially if viewed in context.

&quot;If you want jaw-dropping box office numbers, it would have to be 'Madea vs. Transformers.' Think about the box office history of films featuring black actors ... and even if you leave race out of it, the money the movies make is astounding because he's the only real star in the first place,&quot; Nayman said, pointing out that 'Diary of a Mad Black Woman' made $50.6 million at the box office in 2005 without any major star power behind it.

There's also the reality that Perry's movies go against every box office blockbuster rule there is. &quot;He's explicitly said he's going to make films for a female audience, and his movies don't feature special effects. They're not genre films, and they're also not remotely aimed at teenagers,&quot; Nayman said.

Low production budgets, a committed audience and good box office returns add up to a desirable bottom line, especially in Hollywood.

&quot;What could happen -- because that's what happens with independent films -- that studios co-opt them,&quot; said Joe McBride, a San Francisco State associate professor of cinema. &quot;The low budget monster movies that an independent producer in the '70s was doing became 'Jaws' and 'Close Encounters of The Third Kind.' &quot;

That can only be a good thing, said veteran casting director Avy Kaufman, because it can translate into more roles for a larger variety of actors.

&quot;Yes, Tyler Perry did open up a new genre -- and he's getting a lot of people going to the theater,&quot; Kaufman said. &quot;It's inspiring, and I do think that his success at the box office has created more parts.&quot;

Nayman believes we may already be seeing some of Perry's effect.

&quot;It's going to be very interesting to see what the box office will be like for 'Death at a Funeral,' &quot; he said, referring to the upcoming remake of a British comedy which stars Chris Rock, Zoe Saldana and Martin Lawrence. &quot;Look at the way the movie has been marketed -- it's hard when you look at the trailer, to not feel a Tyler Perry effect.&quot;

Yet while it's undeniable that Perry is one of the industry's most consistent success stories within the last decade, Gilchrist said, what mark his brand will leave on the industry in the long run is still up for debate.

Film critics point to two chief issues, one being a lack of artistry, and the second being a lack of mainstream appeal, both of which which could potentially limit his breadth.

&quot;He's certainly among the most successful filmmakers today in terms of his ability to crank out hits, but I don't think he's accomplished something artistically that's going to make him of a greater interest to his wider audience,&quot; Gilchrist said. &quot;Because he's operating on this modest but really considerably successful scale, it's going to continue to give him success but not put him in the top tier of directors.&quot;

Rose, however, argues that Perry isn't as restricted as some may think, and has the potential to become an international success.

&quot;The revenue potential for him internationally is enormous and that shouldn't be underestimated,&quot; Rose said. &quot;If you look at world wide box office, think about the fact that his product hasn't been exploited overseas, and there's tremendous potential there. You have to imagine there will be more where that came from. This is someone who is constantly trying to test himself.&quot;

[sistactry]

Re: Am I being too sensitive?

he is no diff dan the rest who has been exploiting black movies, Brooklyns Finest, the most recent movie depicits blacks as drug dealers, the women as whores who sleeps with men for the $$$,

whappen, a black movie about true love, and trials, or corporate america life, or a man starting his own business with morals is too boring???

[Serenity82]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SistaCtry</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wahalla</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> native people</div></div> would not say this is a particular sensitive commet/ phrase from a historical, perspective.. But then I think all yankis have this tendency to see us sophisticated people from the where they condisendinly refer to as the ubiquetous &quot;the islands&quot; as ignorant singers with charming accents who produce nothing but sprinters ... </div></div>



Serenity, nuh tek dis as offensive, wha him say is true for nuff ppl, a so dem really feel~~ </div></div>

I don't take offense to anything Mr &quot;Third World&quot; says

[Gen]

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but si yah

[Nunya]

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I'd forgotten about the lazy-racist-asian-lesbian-peeping Tom landlord...

[WiseJamaican]

Re: Am I being too sensitive?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Serenity82</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Pepper</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Serenity82</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I know Tyler Perry said he was glad to do the movie in the Bahamas and how it should generate people to visit but my thing is that everyone already knew the Bahamas was a beautiful tourist destination. If you are going to do a movie showing Afro-Americans in particular in the Bahamas shouldn't you atleast respect the native people?

Anyone saw it and had the same opinion? </div></div>

Jamaica is still &quot;benefiting&quot; from Stella getting her groove back how many years ago. And long before Stella went to Negril, Jamaica was a top tourist destination.

I'm sure Bahamas tourism will benefit from this movie. </div></div>

ok sounds great. I thought the movie was really good but having Caribbean parents I guess I felt a certain way about how the Bahamian hotel help was being talked to.

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They are not unique to what the staffs in the hotel industry have to face on a daily basis. I have not watch this movie has yet but don't look at it because it was film in Bahamas looked at it from the Hotel Industry point of view maybe this is what Tyler was trying to portrayed. There are a lot of visitors who don't see Hotel workers as Humans when they are not around the desks for them those who cleaned up their mess are slaves and nothing else.

[Yuriatin]

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SC - on the <span style="font-style: italic">&quot;whappen, a black movie about&quot; </span>matter - I find many movies with us in them or about us, that aren't stereotype shoot em up bang bang oppression, etc, etc.

One of my most favorite movies is from a few years ago, called &quot;Red Violin&quot;. Samuel L. Jackson is in the cast. I loved the movie for a variety of reasons not the lease of which, was because, he's just cast in the role of a regular fellow.

Whether or not people saw this movie - why or why not - well, that's another question all together.

Coming out in the next couple of months is a flick with Common and Queen Latifah - called &quot;Just Wright&quot;.

Did you see The Pursuit of Hapyness, The Great Debaters? Something the Lord Made, Dreamgirls, Inside Man, I Am Legend ...

I can think of tons of plain jane movies (old and new) with us in them.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SistaCtry</div><div class="ubbcode-body">he is no diff dan the rest who has been exploiting black movies, Brooklyns Finest, the most recent movie depicits blacks as drug dealers, the women as whores who sleeps with men for the $$$,

whappen, a black movie about true love, and trials, or corporate america life, or a man starting his own business with morals is too boring??? </div></div>

[Marielle]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Serenity82</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Please tell me if I'm being too sensitive about this. I recently watched &quot;Why did I get Married too&quot; and still in my mind feel uncomfortable about how they talked to Bahamas help staff and even when they initially met the Bahamian couple on the beach. I know the actress Tasha was supposed to be attitude-ridden but it was a general vibe I sensed towards the Bahamian hotel staff and people. As if they were looking down on them. </div></div>

Oh, I can't stand this kind of attitude!!!

So many people - where do they get this &quot;I am so important!&quot; kind of attitude?!!

Makes me so sad, we are all God's children!

No, you are not too sensitive!! You are an HSP! (and good on you! welcome to the club - even if it is hard to live it...).

http://www.hsperson.com/pages/hsp.htm

[Bizzy]

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wutdahell

a me one confused

[sistactry]

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[Wahalla]

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Lass night as I fell asleep with the piniwali singing their rythmic tune... I listened to a program on tourism on the BBC world service... The issue was the impact of tourism.. in corwall the UK the locals were complaining aboutythe impact of the external investmetn in tourism.. (and issue that i strongly endorse.. All sustainable debvelopment hjas to be internal investment for it to be sustainable other wise there is a net flow of capital out..)

.And the minister of culture of the Bahamas was saying he wanted to develop a deferiential society to impress the yanki customers. he basically or my interpretation was that he want all Bahamians to become customer service representatrive and to service trhe needs of the tourism and heis expecctation was that all 300 k Bahamians would be lectured and exposed to this...

Tourism in my estimation is a doubled edges sword.. in developed locals it is an adjunt ot and not the principal rasion detra of an economy.. in us third world countries it can be a disaster..

Eric Williams was clear in his post independence strategy he wanted zero tourism.. He had an alternative oil..(an issue I learnt last night)

But us third world people have to be guided by outsiders be they yanki or kamunists..

Who is Tyler Perry some yanki inadequate ??

[Yvonne N.]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SistaCtry</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wahalla</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> native people</div></div> would not say this is a particular sensitive commet/ phrase from a historical, perspective.. But then I think all yankis have this tendency to see us sophisticated people from the where they condisendinly refer to as the ubiquetous &quot;the islands&quot; as ignorant singers with charming accents who produce nothing but sprinters ... </div></div>



Serenity, nuh tek dis as offensive, wha him say is true for nuff ppl, a so dem really feel~~ </div></div>



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