Tennessee in the headlines again

[keesha]

Re: Tennessee in the headlines again

That is so very sad and he is still so very young. Who knows what life experiences he has had up to this age. Hope he finds a loving family who who will cherish him and be able to get him any professional help he needs..

[Marilyn]

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They said also that there are huge numbers of children up for adoption there, yet many Russian families have stepped forward to adopt him.

I had a co-worker who went over there to get a boy, and while she was there, they literally asked her if she wanted two for the price of one, so she came home with a boy AND a girl. I am not much in touch with her anymore, but she hung the moon and the stars on those kids and did everything possible for them. When ever I saw them they the looked happy healthy and they were flourishing. They should be high school age now.

[Marielle]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Faithfull</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What she did to the little bouy was wikkid, cruel and inhuman...just showing that she wasn't fit to be a parent in the first place.</div></div>



Lots of gay couples (rich and famous ones too) here adopting black kids from USA....

<span style="font-weight: bold">Born in America, adopted abroad
African-American babies are going to parents overseas even as US couples adopt children from other countries</span>

<span style="font-style: italic">Adrian Stokkeland, a 2-year-old in Canada, dances with his mom to the music of Elvis and sleeps with his most treasured possession, a box of toy cars. Emma Sonnenschein, an energetic 19-month-old in Germany, loves to &quot;help&quot; her mom around the house. Elisa van Meurs, a 5-year-old in the Netherlands, is a real girly-girl. Her favorite outfit is a Minnie Mouse dress, paired with a Snow White tiara and pink Barbie shoes.

Adrian, Emma, and Elisa have more in common than their charm and being the apple of their parents' eyes. All are black children born in the United States and adopted as infants by parents in other countries.

They also are representatives of a little-known trend: At the same time the US is &quot;importing&quot; increasing numbers of adoptive children from Russia, China, and Guatemala, it is &quot;exporting&quot; black babies to be adopted in other countries.

Since 1995, US State Department records indicate that international adoptions by Americans have increased more than 140 percent. Couples often cite the lack of American babies as the reason for adopting from abroad.

But the US is now the fourth largest &quot;supplier&quot; of babies for adoption to Canada. Adoption by Shepherd Care, an agency in Hollywood, Fla., places 90 percent of its African-American babies in Canada. One-third of the children placed through Adoption-Link in Chicago, which specializes in adoptions for black babies, go to people from other countries.

The exact numbers are not available, but interviews with adoption agencies and families in Canada, Germany, France, and the Netherlands indicate that the US also sends babies to those four countries as well as Belgium and England. Most of the children are black newborns. Most of the adoptingparents are Caucasian.

Why is it happening?
There is no simple explanation for why many white Americans prefer to adopt from abroad rather than adopt the available black babies at home. Racism is one reason, says Cheryl Kinnaird of Adoption-Link in Chicago. But there are others, she adds.

Families might choose an international adoption because of an affinity for a particular country or a desire to help. Many couples want a child who resembles them so that their family will not stand out as an &quot;adoptive family.&quot; Since most adoptive families are Caucasian, this might explain the rise in adoptions from Russia and other eastern European countries.

In 2003, 37 percent of all international adoptions to the US were from countries where the majority of children adopted were Caucasian.

White couples may also be concerned about how their extended family will react to a black child. And they sometimes worry they are not up to the task of raising a black child in America and are not sure it is in the best interest of the child to be raised in a white environment.

Then, too, whites often are uncertain whether they can provide the child with cultural exposure to the African-American community.

Most adoption professionals agree that, all other things being equal, it is best to place an African- American child with an African-American family. The National Association of Black Social Workers' position is that every effort should be made to place children with families of the same race and culture.

Page: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 </span>

http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/1027/p11s01-lifp.html

I guess here in a city of 176 nationalities with 750.000 (800K?) inhabitants, not so hard to meet people from all over the world....most classes in each school are a UN anyway.....
like my son and his girlfriend, 3 continents in one couple.....africa, europe and south america.

[Marilyn]

Re: Tennessee in the headlines again

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Marielle</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Faithfull</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What she did to the little bouy was wikkid, cruel and inhuman...just showing that she wasn't fit to be a parent in the first place.</div></div>



Lots of gay couples (rich and famous ones too) here adopting black kids from USA....

<span style="font-weight: bold">Born in America, adopted abroad
African-American babies are going to parents overseas even as US couples adopt children from other countries</span>

<span style="font-style: italic">Adrian Stokkeland, a 2-year-old in Canada, dances with his mom to the music of Elvis and sleeps with his most treasured possession, a box of toy cars. Emma Sonnenschein, an energetic 19-month-old in Germany, loves to &quot;help&quot; her mom around the house. Elisa van Meurs, a 5-year-old in the Netherlands, is a real girly-girl. Her favorite outfit is a Minnie Mouse dress, paired with a Snow White tiara and pink Barbie shoes.

Adrian, Emma, and Elisa have more in common than their charm and being the apple of their parents' eyes. All are black children born in the United States and adopted as infants by parents in other countries.

They also are representatives of a little-known trend: At the same time the US is &quot;importing&quot; increasing numbers of adoptive children from Russia, China, and Guatemala, it is &quot;exporting&quot; black babies to be adopted in other countries.

Since 1995, US State Department records indicate that international adoptions by Americans have increased more than 140 percent. Couples often cite the lack of American babies as the reason for adopting from abroad.

But the US is now the fourth largest &quot;supplier&quot; of babies for adoption to Canada. Adoption by Shepherd Care, an agency in Hollywood, Fla., places 90 percent of its African-American babies in Canada. One-third of the children placed through Adoption-Link in Chicago, which specializes in adoptions for black babies, go to people from other countries.

The exact numbers are not available, but interviews with adoption agencies and families in Canada, Germany, France, and the Netherlands indicate that the US also sends babies to those four countries as well as Belgium and England. Most of the children are black newborns. Most of the adoptingparents are Caucasian.

Why is it happening?
There is no simple explanation for why many white Americans prefer to adopt from abroad rather than adopt the available black babies at home. Racism is one reason, says Cheryl Kinnaird of Adoption-Link in Chicago. But there are others, she adds.

Families might choose an international adoption because of an affinity for a particular country or a desire to help. Many couples want a child who resembles them so that their family will not stand out as an &quot;adoptive family.&quot; Since most adoptive families are Caucasian, this might explain the rise in adoptions from Russia and other eastern European countries.

In 2003, 37 percent of all international adoptions to the US were from countries where the majority of children adopted were Caucasian.

White couples may also be concerned about how their extended family will react to a black child. And they sometimes worry they are not up to the task of raising a black child in America and are not sure it is in the best interest of the child to be raised in a white environment.

Then, too, whites often are uncertain whether they can provide the child with cultural exposure to the African-American community.

Most adoption professionals agree that, all other things being equal, it is best to place an African- American child with an African-American family. The National Association of Black Social Workers' position is that every effort should be made to place children with families of the same race and culture.

Page: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 </span>

http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/1027/p11s01-lifp.html

I guess here in a city of 176 nationalities with 750.000 (800K?) inhabitants, not so hard to meet people from all over the world....most classes in each school are a UN anyway..... </div></div> Uh oh Blu will be here in justa minute

[Marielle]

Re: Tennessee in the headlines again

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Marilyn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[Uh oh Blu will be here in justa minute </div></div>

[Marielle]

Re: Tennessee in the headlines again

This to me is much worse....

child abduction by one of the parents....

http://www.reunite.org/forum.asp

[kia027]

Re: Tennessee in the headlines again

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The problem is that the boy is an American citizen. And have all rights to stay in the country.
She have no rights to deport him to any country.That is the responsibility of the courts.
It does not matter where he was born. </div></div>

The boy has dual citizenship as Russia considers the child a citizen until age 18 when they choose if they would like to retain Russian citizenship. Yes he has all rights to stay in the US but also has rights to stay in Russia. Her actions were clearly wrong in sending the child anywhere without trying to work things out via the adoption agency she used to get him.

[Nunya]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dahJahPawtTwo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Torry's mother said the 7-year-old newcomer's violent episodes – such as threatening to burn their home down – terrified them into a shocking solution: The boy they renamed Justin was put on a plane by himself and sent back to Russia.

However, Nancy Hansen told reporters the motives of her daughter Torry – a 33-year-old unmarried nurse – were sincere.

&quot;The intent of my daughter was to have a family and the intent of my whole family was to love that child,&quot; she said Friday.

....

Adoption experts say many families are blinded by their desire to adopt and don't always understand what the orphans, especially older ones, may have endured.

Hansen said her daughter sought advice from psychologists but never had her adoptive son meet with one. They chose an English-language home study program, hoping to enrol him in school in the fall.
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Her claims of being a good decent mother/human being, is belied by her actions of putting a <span style="font-weight: bold">7yo</span> child on a plane and paying some stranger to take it from there.

That [censored] is neglect. And neglect is abuse. So Torry was abusive. Maybe the child did act out. Maybe his actions scared her. But I don't think she was as innocent as they're trying to make out.

I think she should be charged.

[Fyah]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nunya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Her claims of being a good decent mother/human being, is belied by her actions of putting a <span style="font-weight: bold">7yo</span> child on a plane and paying some stranger to take it from there.

That [censored] is neglect. And neglect is abuse. So Torry was abusive. Maybe the child did act out. Maybe his actions scared her. But I don't think she was as innocent as they're trying to make out.

I think she should be charged. </div></div>

I agree that she was neglectful and should be charged. If she'd put her 7 yr old &quot;natural born&quot; son on a flight with strangers from NY to NJ she'd be in a heck of a lot of trouble, so it should be no different for a Russian adopted son.

Her actions really make me wonder about her state of mind and can only conclude that the child might have had behavioral issues because of her and is now better off being away from her.

[britisha]

Re: Tennessee in the headlines again

to Nunya's post

[lonewolf]

Re: Tennessee in the headlines again

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Faithfull</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote]Despite the uproar over adoptions, placing children inside Russia remains difficult. There are more than 740,000 children without parental custody in Russia, according to UNICEF, the United Nations Children's Fund.

Previous adoption failures have increased Russian officials' wariness of adoptions to the U.S.<span style="font-weight: bold">

In 2006, Peggy Sue Hilt of Manassas, Virginia, was sentenced to 25 years in prison after being convicted of fatally beating a 2-year-old girl adopted from Siberia months earlier.

In 2008, Kimberly Emelyantsev of Tooele, Utah, was sentenced to 15 years after pleading guilty to killing a Russian infant in her care.

And in March of this year, prosecutors in Pennsylvania met with a Russian diplomats to discuss how to handle the case of a couple accused of killing their 7-year-old adopted Russian son at their home near the town of Dillsburg.</span><span style="color: #009900">

MORE THAN ENOUGH...</span>

___[QUOTE]

Hall reported from Nashville, Tennessee. Associated Press writers Travis Loller in Nashville, Joshua Freed in Minneapolis, and Foster Klug and Robert Burns in Washington contributed to this report.



DISS MUSSIE GETTING CLOSE[R] TO HOME.. </div></div>


<span style="font-style: italic">I am angered at your quick judgement. You have judged and condemned this woman without a complete story. NEWS MEDIA, as we all know only gives the sensational side of a story to sell it's product.

I also say that MOST people that open up their lives to adopt children have the best intentions at hand and the majority of adoptive parents are loving and giving people.

Below I have posted the rest of the story of one of the examples that you posted. You and the media have convienently left out the other side of the story....Are these people guilty? Maybe?... and maybe not. </span>









Adoption News: Utah Mom Charged With Killing Adopted Child, N.J. Leave Bill Advances
Submitted by VirginiaC on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 18:03 Adopted Child Deaths Adoptive parenting Death Emelyantsev Foster adoption Foster care News Russia Utah


A Utah woman has been charged with murdering a toddler adopted from Russia. According to The Salt Lake Tribune, Kimberly Emelyantsev was charged with one count of first-degree murder in the March 7 death of a 14-month-old boy named Nikolai. Citing police and court records, the newspaper said an autopsy found the child had died from a skull fracture caused by blunt-force trauma.

Both the woman and her husband, whom the newspaper named as Fyodor Emelyantsev, were also charged with child abuse for allegedly starving a second child they adopted from Russia, a four-year-old boy. According to the newspaper, the child had been admitted to a Salt Lake hospital three times since he was adopted in December, each time suffering from malnutrition and dehydration. The younger child was adopted in February.

<span style="font-weight: bold">But the Emelyantsev case appears to have a twist that none of the previous cases of adopted Russian children murdered by American parents have had: Fyodor Emelyantsev is a Russian citizen. The Emelyantsevs are described in the report as having three biological children, one of whom has Down's syndrome, as did both of the children adopted from Russia. There is a court hearing on the case scheduled for March 18.</span>

On Thursday, legislators in the New Jersey state Assembly approved a family leave bill, that would cover new parents in domestic or inter-country adoptions. The bill gives New Jersey workers six weeks of paid leave at two-thirds of their salary, with a cap at $524 a week. Funds for the leave would come from a new employee payroll deduction, which would amount to $33 a year for the highest paid employees. But the measure has still not cleared all obstacles. According to The New York Times, the bill must go back to the state Senate, which narrowly approved an earlier version two weeks ago. The repeat vote is needed because language was inserted in the Assembly version at the recommendation of the state's attorney general to prevent small business owners--who are not required to give returning workers their jobs back--from lawsuits. The Senate vote is expected on Monday.

A task force set up by South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford has suggested ways to improve foster care and adoption in the state. According to a report in The Times and Democrat, the task force wants a birth father registry to speed the termination of parental rights, a better process for notifying necessary parties of an adoption hearing and stepped up efforts to recruit foster and adoptive parents. According to the newspaper, there are about 1,600 children eligible for adoption in South Carolina, and it now takes about four years to finalize an in-state adoption. The paper says the state's goal is to slash that to two years.

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Emelyantsev case
Submitted by Rochelle on Tue, 04/01/2008 - 23:51.
I am close family of the Emelyantsev’s. They spent the last year going through Russian courts and procedures, spent a great deal of money, bought a bigger home, and worked to have Kim at home in order to make a home for these two boys. They wanted to give these children a chance for a good life where they would be nourished, loved, and cared for by all of us. They knew what they would be dealing with because they have a daughter with Down’s Syndrome. We are apalled by the fact that our justice system here has turned our heroes into another set of victims. They did not hurt these children and have been fighting to save them and bring them home from the terrible situation they were in. This has caused misunderstanding and misplaced anger at the very people who are mourning the loss of their beloved little boy. This has ripped apart the existing little family they have as well. No wrong or harm was done. How can we call this justice? We stand in sick awe and helpless desperation.

The thing that is sad is that media, including this site, have SOME information that is correct, some that is wrong, and plenty left out. Readers have forgotten that everything they read is not unbiased or correct. These parents, my friends, and the rest of our family are in a nightmare. They went above and beyond what most of us do to help a disabled child, and when tiny Nikolai couldn’t survive, people who don’t know the truth blame them.

We are fighting to have the truth come out and need help to keep the attorney who is defending Kim against the legal games of guilty until proven innocent. You can call Tooele Federal Credit Union at 1-800-662-9522 to find out how to donate and help this family. The account in in Nikolai’s name because saving his life is the reason they are now having to fight for theirs. They love him and miss all of their children…the THREE they had before, the ONE they are grateful to have now from Russia, and the sweet little angel boy they lost

[britisha]

Re: Tennessee in the headlines again

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lonrwolf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">


<span style="font-style: italic">I am angered at your quick judgement. You have judged and condemned this woman without a complete story.</div></div>

Oh really!! Yuh stay way over there and knew that MY judgment was &quot;quick?...One doesn't have to be a rocket scientist, nor should it take any amount of time consuming analysis to see the inhuman treatment she rendered to this child...so...don't give us that..

<span style="font-weight: bold">.ALL YOUR POSTS ARE ANGRY..</span>.SO THERE HAS TO BE MORE THAN MEETS THE BULLETIN BOARD'S EYE...<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> NEWS MEDIA, as we all know only gives the sensational side of a story to sell it's product.

I also say that MOST people that open up their lives to adopt children have the best intentions at hand and the majority of adoptive parents are loving and giving people.

Below I have posted the rest of the story of one of the examples that you posted. You and the media have convienently left out the other side of the story....Are these people guilty? Maybe?... and maybe not. </span> </div></div>


You don't get it, do you?


...abuse was meted out to a SICK child who is NOT responsible for his actions.

This allegedly was done by smaddie who should be a RATIONAL person..who obviously was NOT...prolly in worse mental shape than the unfortunate child...so mebbie shi deserve forgiveness cozzzin a dat...


In any case, no matter how you sob soddah it, and try to defend her...I think you stand alone on this...she is nat ongle wikkid an evil; but unfit to be called a parent...I agree she should be charged...

Why aren't you picking on the other posts that are condeming her? Wha mek?


Walk good Lorn..

[Suesumba]

Re: Tennessee in the headlines again

adoptions are expensive.

[Marilyn]

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I have a really dumb question....is it legal, airlines wise I mean, for a child that young to fly alone??? Did she have to say that someone was going to pick him up on the other side.

[Marilyn]

Re: Tennessee in the headlines again

and I don't even know where Shelbyville, Tennessee is.