it nuh look too pretty ennuh ppl

[mountaingal]

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so jim brown is also lester coke, aka duddus daddy? maybe somebody can do mi and others a public service and start an information thread that traces all these bloodlines and connections. all like how demma try link the raid here in toronto couple weeks ago to some a di jamaican dons.

remo, the comments about seaga in this jim brown thing were admiring - as in, im see di danger and im juss tek care a it... done and dusted, as sista c would seh.

[remo]

Re: it nuh look too pretty ennuh ppl

A jail dem kill Jim Brown burn him up inna him cell mi nuh tink di son dat chupid fi mek dem duh dat tuh him

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Panajar</div><div class="ubbcode-body">LOL what a hypocrite ,didnt the man that you <span style="font-weight: bold">revere</span> and <span style="font-weight: bold">worship </span>Edward Seaga ,claim that dudus was responsible for a lot of crimes in west Kingston .Do need me to provide the link. </div></div>

What list of crimes?
What exactly did Eddie Blinds say?

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Queen_of_d_A</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Queen_of_d_A</div><div class="ubbcode-body">it's not like Coke was a peaceful man. </div></div>
Really?
Do you know any wars that he was involved with? </div></div>

just the murders he has committed and the families destroyed by the drugs he smuggled. </div></div>

What murders?
I have never heard that?
Where can I find that information?
As for drugs I don't know either....you have some proof?

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SistaCtry</div><div class="ubbcode-body">and guns </div></div> Guns are important I am pretty sure if I lived in a place such as West Kingston I would want to be armed and have my neighbours armed as well!

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SistaCtry</div><div class="ubbcode-body">me no know, me hear say him promise dem, dat if anything happen to him, some lawyer man or someting have all his files dem ready fe send go a usa fe expose everybody, and dis me believe, no must it mek PM and etal a cover fe him so?? </div></div>
Where did you hear that?
Is the PM covering him now?
If he was so important why would the Prime Minster handle the matter in such a sloppy manner?

[Panajar]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so why the real rulers can't jus have him removed? or dem nuh ready yet? </div></div>

Dudas goose cook, he will be removed, per the real rulers watch dem flexing dem muscle




From left:<span style="font-weight: bold"> Joseph M. Matalon,</span> president of the Private Sector of Jamaica, chats with <span style="font-weight: bold">Paul Lalor, </span>president of the Insurance Association of Jamaica (IAJ) and Karen Bhoorasingh at an IAJ luncheon at The Jamaica Pegasus hotel in New Kingston yesterday. - Rudolph Brown/Photographer
Joseph M. Matalon, president of the Private Sector Organisation (PSOJ), has declared that the group will been ensuring that the prime minister's promises about political renewal are kept.

Golding made the promises in a national broadcast on Monday night.

Addressing a luncheon held by the Insurance Association of Jamaica at The Jamaica Pegasus hotel in St Andrew yesterday, the PSOJ head also said the private sector would resume talks with the Government under the Partnership for Transformation initiative.

&quot;The PM's mea culpa now sets the stage, I believe, for a continuation of these talks and for more focused action on many of the issues to which the PM has given the nation specific commitments,&quot; Matalon said.

&quot;<span style="font-weight: bold">You may rest assured that the PSOJ will insist on deadlines for these commitments and keenly monitor their implementation to ensure that the prime minister is true to his word.</span>&quot;

On Tuesday, the Jamaica Chamber of Commerce also echoed these sentiments.

Golding in his speech promised to fast-track measures to reverse the institutionalisation of political tribalism and garrison; to institute provisions for the impeachment of public officials; and to look at term limits for the prime minister, among other things.

Opportunity for sea of change

Matalon said the occurrences in Jamaica over the past few days have provided the opportunity for a sea of change in both the public and private sectors.

He told the gathering that Jamaica needs a 'game changer' in reshaping the approach towards crime and violence.

&quot;We must now take decisive steps towards dismantling political garrisons. We must make it clear to our political directorate that they must commit to ceasing the award of state contracts to organisations with reputed criminal partners and associates, and to stop accepting donations from such individuals and tainted entities,&quot; he said.

In this regard, Matalon said the governing Jamaica Labour Party and the Opposition People's National Party should commit to annually turning over their list of contributors to the political ombudsman to show that they are not receiving contributions from known or reputed criminals and are not beholden to these characters.

He also called for the Government to enact the delayed crime bills, which should include stronger wiretapping legislation to allow the intelligence collected in judicially authorised wiretappings to be more readily entered as evidence in court.

<span style="font-weight: bold">Matalon also called for the amendment of the Bail Act to broaden the considerations for denial of bail</span> to persons who have committed serious and heinous crimes, and the passing of omnibus post-arrest processing legislation to permit fingerprinting and photographing of all persons charged with violent offences, and for the collection and storage of DNA of persons charged with violent offences, as well as for repeat offenders.
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[sistactry]

Re: it nuh look too pretty ennuh ppl

u know, dats all me waan hear, dat all dem promises dat Bruisey say, dem a go watch him and mek sure say him keep dem!

all dem garrisons ish yaa fe dun wid now, we inna new world, and dem backward savage behaviour deh fe dun wid!

and this is also true for the politicians to be held accountable for their actions,

and sistap/pnp fe step now, and tell de ppl dem whappen to trafigura money

all de bs fe seize now, and mek de country safety fe all men a reality, NOW NOW NOW

[Panajar]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

What list of crimes?
What exactly did Eddie Blinds say? </div></div> stop act naive yu know betta



<span style="font-weight: bold">The Seaga interview</span>

dis is wat seaga say bout dudas


<span style="font-weight: bold">Q.</span> Are you saying then that there are other reasons, apart from your report, for having holding Michael 'Dudus' Coke?

<span style="font-weight: bold">A</span>. <span style="color: #FF0000">The fact that he is a gang leader, none of what is happening in West Kingston could have happened without his authority or</span> without his vesting and I am the one that is getting the blame from communities around and from the public outside by saying, this can't happen unless Mr. Seaga sanction it. When I am unable to stop what is happening because they tell me I don't buy them guns and I don't give them shots and therefore I can't tell what to do.

A. &quot;Well, let us make that clear now. I have no control over these fellows, no control whatsoever. That has nothing to do with politics. I have no lack of control in terms of politics in the constituency but I have no control over t<span style="color: #FF6666">hese 13 men who have a pattern of brutality that I will not tolerate, will not accept and will fight against. They have blown off the leg of a young girl who at 20 years old has to walk with crutches. They have killed two sons of one lady within three days, they have killed a seven-year-old, a nine-year-old boy</span>.

The full hundred rigt yah so

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[evanovitch]

Re: it nuh look too pretty ennuh ppl

u ha Seaga eena ur craw fi real...bet u wouldnt admit to wen Tony use fi hand out gun personally up a Wairieka Hills...

ah sah...how come u no comment pon PJ an his extradtion fight bak in di days...

my gawd to read u, Eddie responsible r even ha di ansa to di ile spill

all knowing, all doing..but is good to see dat u hold him dat high in ability

[Dr.Dudd]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SistaCtry</div><div class="ubbcode-body">u know, dats all me waan hear, dat all dem promises dat Bruisey say, dem a go watch him and mek sure say him keep dem!

all dem garrisons ish yaa fe dun wid now, we inna new world, and dem backward savage behaviour deh fe dun wid!

and this is also true for the politicians to be held accountable for their actions,

and sistap/pnp fe step now, and tell de ppl dem whappen to trafigura money

all de bs fe seize now, and mek de country safety fe all men a reality, NOW NOW NOW
</div></div>as usual the ignorant is not limited to the US Republican voters.
They are all over the place in high places And low.

Jamaicans have their fair share if it.

Trafigura have as much right to buy the Jamaican politicians as any member if the PSOJ.

Neither of them have the rights and beneficial interest of black Jamaicans at heart.

Only ignorant black Jamaicans don't see it as s benefit that the power of the government us nit the exclusive right of the Private sector association.

They design it That way.

Why do you think That black intellectuals And other black people would support the wholesale disarming of blacks while all other races are armed to the teeth?

Simply because They chose idiots to educate.

They learn Just enough to be Good slaves And to discourage the overturning of the colonies society.

Since They will loose their position if prominince.

[Magician]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What murders?
I have never heard that?
Where can I find that information?
As for drugs I don't know either....<span style="font-weight: bold">you have some proof?</span> </div></div>

Yes. Lineage.

[neutral]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SistaCtry</div><div class="ubbcode-body">yeah, but dem a ask fe it,

de man dem have a warrant to go in and apprehend de man, dat no say him a go get extradition now, he still have to tried in the Ja courts, (albeit a so him father dead, but ehhh, u live by the gun u die by the gun)

wha dat dutty wretch shudda mek happen is him surrender peacefully, if him did give a dyammm about ja or the people...him is a dutty raaxx, i hope one a him own man kill him baxside~~ </div></div>

Such hatred! </div></div>

Yeah,spoken like a true christian.

[neutral]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: remo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

but di man nuh convicted of no crime yet unnu believe everyting uncle sam seh? an dis is coming from a socialist

tell unnu di trute mi kinna dissapointed dem cave in like dis di united snakes fi come with better evidence dan dis.... </div></div>


Exactly !!

[franksterr]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so jim brown is also lester coke, aka duddus daddy? maybe somebody can do mi and others a public service and start an information thread that traces all these bloodlines and connections. all like how demma try link the raid here in toronto couple weeks ago to some a di jamaican dons.

remo, the comments about seaga in this jim brown thing were admiring - as in, im see di danger and im juss tek care a it... done and dusted, as sista c would seh.
</div></div>

you know or you don't, but tension's high right now in &amp; around Tivoli (Kingston, JA)... this because the DEA (of USA) wants Christopher 'Dudus' Coke, the don of Tivoli...
Elephant Man big up Dudus father Jim Brown ina him song Real Godfather ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2UKqB1RdGU

here's a text (probably out a newspaper) i found on a jamaican forum (no source added) ...
but it explains very well the history of this infamous family ...

bless up

News The Cokes then and now ...A legacy of infamy

TIVOLI Gardens strongman Christopher 'Dudus' Coke, who the US Department of State last week branded one of the world's most dangerous narco criminals, is the latest member of the Coke family to have made headlines for the wrong reasons.

The US Drug Enforcement Agency says Coke has inherited the reins of the notorious Shower Posse and has accused him of trafficking in cocaine, marijuana and arms.

Coke, also known as 'The President' and 'Shortman', has lost his father, two brothers and a sister violently and now faces life imprisonment in a US penal facility. He is the adopted son of the late Jamaica Labour Party political enforcer and accused drug dealer, Lester Lloyd Coke, more popularly known as 'Jim Brown'.

Lester Coke rose to prominence following the deaths of his mentor and predecessors, Claudius Massop and Carl 'Byah' Mitchell.

Massop; racehorse trainer Lloyd Fraser, 21; and Canadian resident Trevor Tinson, were cut down by police bullets in February 1979 in what lawmen described as a shoot-out at the corner of Industrial Terrace and Marcus Garvey Drive. Mitchell died from a brain haemorrhage brought on by a narcotic overdose in May 1988.

Mitchell was second in command to Massop; his death opened the way for Lester Coke to step up and fill the breach of political enforcer, who was key in the fight for political spoils during the turbulent era of the 1970s.

The timing of Lester Coke's ascension to the top rung of the Tivoli Gardens garrison was perfect as a year before, the party he fought tooth and nail for - the Jamaica Labour Party (JLP) - swept the national elections.

The party was led by a fiery Edward Seaga who was also the member of parliament for West Kingston in which Tivoli Gardens was the central lynch pin.

The JLP was assisted by the US to oust Michael Manley's People's National Party which, at the time, seemed to be in cahoots with America's arch rival and political enemy, Cuba's Fidel Castro.

In return for the US support, the JLP Government embarked on a ganja eradication campaign. Ganja was at the time a major cash crop for some Jamaicans, and the destruction of acres of the seedlings, sometimes with deadly chemicals which destroyed other legal crops, paved the way for the island to become the major trans-shipment port for the deadly drug, cocaine.

The opportunity was ripe for Lester Coke and his cronies who formed themselves into the Shower Posse and exploited the cocaine trade to amass great wealth and opulence. The gang got its name from the JLP election slogan 'Shower', which was a response to the PNP's 'Power' that was coined from Manley's 'Power for the people' slogan in the 1970s.

They took on the name after a speech by Seaga in which he promised that: &quot;Blessings will shower from the sky and money going jingle in your pockets.&quot;

Lester Coke, along with his confidante Vivian Blake, were the two leading figures in the Shower Posse. Blake was responsible for the US-based operations of the gang, while Lester Coke held things together on local soil before he made his foray into the US and helped to set up cells of the Shower Posse in New York, Miami, Kansas City, Chicago, Philadelphia, Los Angeles and other cities.

As the Shower Posse extended its reach, it became an increasing annoyance to the US federal authorities because of its blatant disregard for life. Several gruesome murders related to drug deals gone sour were blamed on the Shower Posse and soon the US Government were determined to stamp out the gang.

The largesse garnered from the illegal drug trade brought Lester Coke a new found power, and coupled with his ruthless enforcer style, resulted in a new breed of political thugs who no longer looked to politicians for handouts.

The power that came with the ill-gotten gains soon began to play out in the streets of Kingston. In the early 1980s, Lester Coke was virtually untouchable.

The brutal slaying of a bus driver, who allegedly bad-mouthed Lester Coke in the aftermath of a traffic incident, showed that he wielded considerable power.

The driver had apparently realised too late who he was bad-mouthing and made a mad rush for the Denham Town Police Station where he sought protection from police officers. But the cops could not save him; he was dragged from the police station by Jim Brown and his cronies who shot and stabbed him to death.

Lester Coke was eventually charged for the murder but was acquitted after no witnesses turned up in court.

In 1984, Lester Coke reportedly led a large gang of armed thugs from Tivoli Gardens into the nearby community of Wilton Gardens, popularly known as Rema, and laid siege. In the end, 12 residents were killed in what was dubbed at the time, 'The Rema Killings'.

The attack was reportedly launched because factions in Rema were upset that the community, which was the JLP enclave's first line of defence against PNP gunmen who often launched attacks from nearby Arnett Gardens, was being neglected by the political leader.

Soon after, an arrest warrant was issued for Lester Coke, but he fled the island for the United States. Still, the Shower Posse was coming under increasing pressure from the US Government and in 1987 Lester Coke, forced to flee that country, slipped back into Jamaica and was arrested on the outstanding warrant.

Again, the case against him was weak; the alleged eyewitness changed her statement and was eventually charged with perverting the course of justice.

When it was announced in the Supreme Court that Lester Coke was freed, dozens of supporters gave a prolonged gun salute in front of the court, leaving cops, judges, lawyers and members of the public cowering in fear. The crowd then lifted Coke on their shoulders and carried him triumphantly into Tivoli Gardens.

But Jim Brown's troubles were just beginning. Months later, tragedy would strike in his family. Lester Coke's daughter, known as 'Mumpi', was shot and killed during a gunfight in which her man was also killed. Mumpi was reportedly crouched over his body crying when his killers walked up to her and ended her life.

In 1990, Lester Coke, who, along with Blake and several other leading members of the Shower Posse, was indicted by the US Department of Justice, was again arrested by the Jamaican Government. This time he would have a harder time walking free as the US Government had racked up a series of federal charges against him.

Despite running the legal gauntlet, Lester Coke was ordered extradited.

While languishing in prison awaiting his day in the US courts, his eldest son, Mark 'Jah T' Coke, was shot off his motorbike near the intersection of Maxfield Avenue and Spanish Town Road. Mark Coke was returning from his mother's liquor store when he met his demise. He was reportedly organising a memorial dance for his father's mentor, Claudius Massop.

The incident happened on February 2, 1992, almost two years after Lester Coke was held for extradition.

Weeks later, on the day that his son Mark was being buried, Lester Coke died in a mysterious fire inside his cell at the General Penitentiary, now called the Tower Street Adult Correctional Centre.

Mark Coke's murder triggered a vicious gang war in West Kingston, prompting then Prime Minister Michael Manley to call for dialogue with the JLP and forced a peace march by church and civic leaders through the war-torn communities.

The violence even spread to Florida where several drive-by and club shootings left dozens dead and injured.

The death of Christopher Coke's brother and father created an opening for him to step up and rule the roost in Tivoli Gardens and by extension, the Shower Posse.

On the night of May 4, 2005 Coke's younger brother, also named Christopher but who was popularly called 'Chris Royal' or 'Royal Blend', was also a victim of the gun.

Chris Royal and his crony 'Jello', angered at the killing of Tivoli Gardens elder Donovan Griffiths, also called 'Zion Train', by the security forces, left a wake for Griffiths in Tivoli Gardens with one intention - to avenge his death by taking the life of a policeman.

They succeeded in their bid as both rode up on a black motorcycle to Corporal Hewitt Chandler of the Protective Services as he waited in a marked police car at a stoplight at the intersection of West King's House and Waterloo roads in St Andrew and shot him dead.

However, they did not live much longer as members of the security forces who were early on the scene challenged them both. When the shooting ended, Chris Royal and Jello lay in pools of *la*hd beside the toppled motorbike. Their killing triggered a gun attack on the Cross Road Police Station and the murder of policeman inspector Lascelles Walsh downtown Kingston the following morning.

Now Dudus finds himself in the headlines as the US awaits a decision from the Jamaican Government for his extradition, similar to his father who took that route 17 years before him.

A senior cop who wished to remain unidentified, had a word of advice for 'Dudus'.

&quot;I suggest he makes arrangements to hand himself over to the US authorities and waive his right to an extradition hearing. It would probably be safer for him. He should then tell all he knows and sink some of the high-ranking people who are linked to drugs and arms dealing,&quot; the cop said.

Dudus awaits …
A POSSIBLE sentence of life in prison hangs over the head of Christopher 'Dudus' Coke if he is extradited to the United States and found guilty of the charges of conspiracy to distribute illegal drugs and conspiracy to illegally traffic in firearms.
If convicted on the narcotics charge, Dudus or 'Presi' faces a maximum sentence of life in prison and a mandatory minimum sentence of 10 years in prison, as well as a fine of up to US$4 million or twice the money he made from the offence.

He also faces a maximum sentence of five years in prison on the firearms trafficking charge, and a fine of up to US$250,000 or twice the money he made.

The Americans claim that Coke leads an international criminal organisation known as the 'Shower Posse', with members in Jamaica, the United States and other countries.

They further allege that Coke has led the criminal gang since the early 1990s and, at his direction and under his protection, members of the organisation sold marijuana and crack cocaine in the New York area and elsewhere.

It is further alleged that Coke and unnamed co-conspirators arm their organisation with illegally trafficked firearms.

Coke has been named by the US Department of Justice to the list of 'Consolidated Priority Organisation Targets' which it says includes the world's most dangerous narcotics kingpins.

Want to take assets

Against that background, the Americans want to send Coke to prison for a long, long time while taking away any asset which they believe he acquired through his criminal network.

But that day of reckoning seems a long way off for the events promoter and businessman who has been the 'big man' in Tivoli Gardens for more than a decade.

He was once included on a list of alleged troublemakers given to the police by then Member of Parliament Edward Seaga.

But Coke avoided that ordeal and has since managed to avoid other attempts to link him to organised crime, while operating legitimate businesses such as the Presidential Click.

Now the Americans say they have sufficient evidence to charge Coke and nine co-conspirators.

Before Coke appears in any American court, the Ministry of Justice has to decide if it accepts that the US has presented solid information on which he is to be extradited.

The justice ministry is not yet convinced and has written to the US authorities requesting more and better particulars on the extradition request.

If, or when Justice Minister Dorothy Lightbourne puts pen to paper and approves the extradition request, the police will then have to arrest the west Kingston strongman who enjoys the respect and possibly the love of the vast majority of persons in Tivoli Gardens and neighbouring communities.

Even those opposed to Dudus credit him with keeping a level of order in west Kingston which has prevented some of the bloody conflicts which have cropped up in communities all across the island.

After being arrested locally, Coke will also have the option of challenging the extradition request in the local courts. So Dudus is a man under pressure but that is a battle which is only in the warm-up round.

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