y dese wk permits being given wen Jcan out of wuk????

[evanovitch]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Persons receiving work permits were from North America, Latin America, the Caribbean, Europe, Africa, Asia and Oceania. <span style="font-weight: bold">Asia had the largest number of recipients with 1,901 </span>or 53.9 per cent of the total, <span style="font-weight: bold">with 538 permits going to Europeans.</span>
Meanwhile, work permit exceptions grew by 2.8 per cent, from 1,810 in the 2008/09 financial year to 1,860 in the 2009/10 fiscal year. <span style="font-weight: bold">Persons employed by statutory bodies/ government received the largest number of exemptions </span>with 444 or 23.9 per cent.

Also, a total of <span style="font-weight: bold">2,115 work permits were approved for the wholesale, retail, hotel and restaurant services industry</span>, while the construction and installation sector followed with 426 or 12.1 per cent. The sector which received the smallest number of work permits was mining and quarrying with 15 or less than one per cent of the total.
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[Blackstar*]

Re: y dese wk permits being given wen Jcan out of wuk????

Jamaicans are not qualified enough nor do they have a strong enough work ethic for those highly-skilled jobs...of course.

[barosa]

Re: y dese wk permits being given wen Jcan out of wuk????



<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jamaicans are not qualified enough nor do they have a strong enough work ethic for those highly-skilled jobs...of course.</div></div>
How much qualification do they need to learn basic skills in the &quot;retail, hotel and restaurant&quot; service industry? Many of them believe that having a gun, belonging to a gang or becomming a Don is more rewarding than those <span style="font-weight: bold">dull low income jobs.</span> As for &quot;mining and quarrying&quot; forget that! ~ Targetting returnees is more lucrative... 40 years of being told that &quot;those who have&quot; are likend to enemies and what you need should be taken from them.. Does &quot;extortion&quot; ring a bell?
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[jamaica_dreamin]

Re: y dese wk permits being given wen Jcan out of wuk????

Hmm No numbers for health care workers? I am just curios.

[Blackstar*]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: barosa</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style="font-style: italic">How much qualification do they need to learn basic skills</span> </div></div>My comment was tongue-in-cheek but you knew that already...

[Emperah]

Re: y dese wk permits being given wen Jcan out of wuk????

I'm sure it all has to do with WTC, IMF, WB.
Dis is what happen when yuh tek loans from dese ppl, dem put restrictions pan everyting yuh cyan duh as long as yuh owe dem anyting.

[R_C]

Re: y dese wk permits being given wen Jcan out of wuk????

You ain't seen anything yet:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">&quot;Another point of concern among African civil society is the influx of Chinese labourers in Africa, a continent where millions of people are unemployed.

‘‘Not too long ago, the governments of Cameroon and China made a deal in which China would build roads and infrastructure such as stadiums and sports fields,’’ according to Marie Tamoifo Nkom, spokesperson for the African Youth Diaspora Forum (AYDF) in Cameroon, an organisation aimed at engaging young African emigrants their continent’s social, economic, and political development.

‘‘Everyone was happy, first of all because Cameroon is in great need of sports facilities for the youth. Second of all, this project would mean job creation. Unfortunately, the latter did not happen as the Chinese brought their own labourers.’’ </div></div>

[barosa]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">‘‘Everyone was happy, first of all because Cameroon is in great need of sports facilities for the youth. Second of all, this project would mean job creation. Unfortunately, the latter did not happen as the Chinese brought their own labourers.’’ </div></div>

This seems to be the &quot;norm&quot; for the Chinese. I am sure some can remember that there was a project somewhere on the North Coast where complaints were made against a Chinese Contractor for not hiring local skilled personel and labourers..
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[Dr.Dudd]

Re: y dese wk permits being given wen Jcan out of wuk????

That is not How it really happened.

Not even close.

The Chinese employed locals but wanted yo lay off some as the job was winding down and the local workers sabotaged the site by disrupting power.

The government got involved And it Was amicably resolved. <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: barosa</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">‘‘Everyone was happy, first of all because Cameroon is in great need of sports facilities for the youth. Second of all, this project would mean job creation. Unfortunately, the latter did not happen as the Chinese brought their own labourers.’’ </div></div>

This seems to be the &quot;norm&quot; for the Chinese. I am sure some can remember that there was a project somewhere on the North Coast where complaints were made against a Chinese Contractor for not hiring local skilled personel and labourers..
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[barosa]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That is not How it really happened.

Not even close.

The Chinese employed locals but wanted yo lay off some as the job was winding down and the local workers sabotaged the site by disrupting power.

The government got involved And it Was amicably resolved.</div></div>

You may be right on that topic base on a particular news item . I am not sure if it's the same topic which I remember goes back quite a while, it could be as far back as a couple of years. Anyhow, what I also remembered was that there was an issue with them for not hiring any local engineers at a level which would include &quot;us&quot; having some input...My point was that our Govt need to stipulate in &quot;contract lanuage&quot; that Jamaican professional skills&quot; be used where possible... `At whichever levels, their inclination is to use their own which we need to disrupt...
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[Dr.Dudd]

Re: y dese wk permits being given wen Jcan out of wuk????

The issue of not hiring if local engineers atually involved the Spanish hotel builders Who had the incidences of collapsing structures during the building process.

The first in The history of Contruction in the v
Country.

With All This large structures That have been built, the country have not had so many incidences of construction failure during tgd building process.

IT turns out That They were using d go sets from the Dominican republic who were no Where as capable as local engineers.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: barosa</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That is not How it really happened.

Not even close.

The Chinese employed locals but wanted yo lay off some as the job was winding down and the local workers sabotaged the site by disrupting power.

The government got involved And it Was amicably resolved.</div></div>

You may be right on that topic base on a particular news item . I am not sure if it's the same topic which I remember goes back quite a while, it could be as far back as a couple of years. Anyhow, what I also remembered was that there was an issue with them for not hiring any local engineers at a level which would include &quot;us&quot; having some input...My point was that our Govt need to stipulate in &quot;contract lanuage&quot; that Jamaican professional skills&quot; be used where possible... `At whichever levels, their inclination is to use their own which we need to disrupt...
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[neutral]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BlackStar</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: barosa</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style="font-style: italic">How much qualification do they need to learn basic skills</span> </div></div>My comment was tongue-in-cheek but you knew that already... </div></div>

But lets be honest,your comment also has some grain of truth,there are some service industries that jamaicans by default do not excell in,not because of lack of qualification,simply because of under representation in these industries in jamaica.

[neutral]

Re: y dese wk permits being given wen Jcan out of wuk????

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: barosa</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote] what I also remembered was that there was an issue with them for not hiring any local engineers at a level which would include &quot;us&quot; having some input...My point was that our Govt need to stipulate in &quot;contract lanuage&quot; that Jamaican professional skills&quot; be used where possible... `At whichever levels, their inclination is to use their own which we need to disrupt...
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And therein lies the crux of the problem,the gov needs to have structures put in place that ensures that when foreign interests like the spanish,engage in large scale construction in jamaica,where necessary they should have sufficient local engineers,architects, and skilled workers,not just hire people to fetch water and mix concrete.