Welcome Back Tuff Gong

[Derek]

So, you got bail and will be performing at Before the Dawn in Miami?

We missed (or I did anyway) your insightful knowledge of the world's in general and Jamaica's in particular political/socio-economic situation.





































































(Although I strongly believe Seaga allowed the CIA to destabilise Manley's government in the 70s.
But that's nothing unusual, is it? Look at Iran 1953, Guatemala 1954, Chile 1973, etc, etc.)

[Tuff Gong]

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[quote]<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">(Although I strongly believe Seaga allowed the CIA to destabilise Manley's government in the 70s.
But that's nothing unusual, is it? Look at Iran 1953, Guatemala 1954, Chile 1973, etc, etc.) </div></div>
Belief kills and Belief cures.....but I think we must rely on facts. The CIA did not need to destabilize Jamaica Menlie did all by himself!

[Emperah]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote=Derek](Although I strongly believe Seaga allowed the CIA to destabilise Manley's government in the 70s.
But that's nothing unusual, is it? Look at Iran 1953, Guatemala 1954, Chile 1973, etc, etc.) </div></div>
Belief kills and Belief cures.....but I think we must rely on facts. The CIA did not need to destabilize Jamaica Menlie did all by himself! </div></div>

Bogus!
One man cyaan duh dat by himself. But since yuh beLIEve suh, yuh gwaan run wid dat.

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dahJahPawtTwo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote=Derek](Although I strongly believe Seaga allowed the CIA to destabilise Manley's government in the 70s.
But that's nothing unusual, is it? Look at Iran 1953, Guatemala 1954, Chile 1973, etc, etc.) </div></div>
Belief kills and Belief cures.....but I think we must rely on facts. The CIA did not need to destabilize Jamaica Menlie did all by himself! </div></div>

Bogus!
One man cyaan duh dat by himself. But since yuh beLIEve suh, yuh gwaan run wid dat. </div></div>

I was there.
I saw it with my own eyes.

[jamaica_dreamin]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote=Derek](Although I strongly believe Seaga allowed the CIA to destabilise Manley's government in the 70s.
But that's nothing unusual, is it? Look at Iran 1953, Guatemala 1954, Chile 1973, etc, etc.) </div></div>
Belief kills and Belief cures.....but I think we must rely on facts. The CIA did not need to destabilize Jamaica Menlie did all by himself! </div></div>

Welcome home. Nice to see you

[johnnycakes]

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Yeah, right, and you were privy to top level CIA meetings so you know that they were not involved in any destabilization program in Jamaica and the huge CIA contingent at the U.S. embassy in Kingston was just there for the climate and the rum punch.

And Mr. Seaga might ally himself with a murderous gang leader but is too moral to deal with an even more murderous CIA who enabled him to come to power ?

A case of denial, illogic and deliberate disregard for the history of the Cold War, U.S. history throughout the region and the familiar modus operandi of the CIA all made possible (solely in your mind) by the fact that the records are still secret&gt;

They are tied up because Bush said not to release them since it would involve revealing so many things that Reagan was doing that would be damaging, and embarrassing to the U.S government and other politicians in other countries AND other people on the Jamaicans.com forums.

Lucky you that Obama isn't about to release them either lest he offend his Republican friends but you must really be sweating Wikileaks.

[Dr.Dudd]

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What are you going to do when all the Manley policies are reintroduced within the next 5 years??
Get quiet and ignore it like you all did about the Irish economic miracle??<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote=Derek](Although I strongly believe Seaga allowed the CIA to destabilise Manley's government in the 70s.
But that's nothing unusual, is it? Look at Iran 1953, Guatemala 1954, Chile 1973, etc, etc.) </div></div>
Belief kills and Belief cures.....but I think we must rely on facts. The CIA did not need to destabilize Jamaica Menlie did all by himself! </div></div>

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johnnycakes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yeah, right, and you were privy to top level CIA meetings so you know that they were not involved in any destabilization program in Jamaica and the huge CIA contingent at the U.S. embassy in Kingston was just there for the climate and the rum punch.

And Mr. Seaga might ally himself with a murderous gang leader but is too moral to deal with an even more murderous CIA who enabled him to come to power ? </div></div>

Look ...... it is the last time I am going to warn you to desist from putting words into my mouth then using those words in alignment with my name.....did you get that?


If you knew of any top level meeting, just produce the freaking minutes.
I am not aware of any and I surely was never an ally of Eddie Seaga.

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr.Dudd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What are you going to do when all the Manley policies are reintroduced within the next 5 years??
Get quiet and ignore it like you all did about the Irish economic miracle </div></div>

I don't know.

Did you hear of the Menlie policy of running Jamaicans out of Jamaica, locking up the political Opposition and destroying businesses were coming forward?
In any case I don't live in Jamaica at the moment, so it does not fall upon I to accept or reject those terrible policies.

[Tuff Gong]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jamaica_dreamin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Welcome home. Nice to see you </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We missed (or I did anyway) </div></div>


Thanks!

[franksterr]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv3_IWEpaqI&amp;feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAmJ5-TXR9M&amp;feature=related

[Derek]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: franksterr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv3_I...eature=related</div></div>

markezeh
1 year ago 13
I'm a Jamaican it's my people that has suffered&amp;#65279; and is suffering because of the CIA's awful crimes. God damn u America, u beast I cant wait till u face your judgment. Fire and brimstone for u, u modern day Sodom &amp; Gomorrah.

rappidrowe
11 months ago 5
Poor Mr. Manley dont know what hit him. A so you people stay dont check the source of the information as long as it dont suite your belief you shun it and talk crop. The fact is these reporters are creditable Check their names do research before you chat laborite. It is documented not by me but by people who has no interest in JLP or PNP gives me assurance that there&amp;#65279; is no grudge in documenting this article in fact this was not the only country they speak about.

[Derek]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: franksterr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAmJ5...eature=related </div></div>

AfricansArise
10 hours ago
@AfricansArise And yes, thank God for the US for their selfless mission to free the people of the world. Right now, every night in Iraq and Afghanistan - the people their pray to God&amp;#65279; and thank him for American freedom.

AfricansArise
10 hours ago
@falcngnzx2 Nice side-step! No, I guess you're right. Capitalism has brought freedom to millions of people&amp;#65279; around the world for centuries now. Those millions of indigenous Americans who were wiped off the face of the earth by European invaders, the Africans who were enslaved and Jim Crow'd by the same people. The list goes on. And just take a walk through any slum in Rio, Kingston, Nairobi, Mumbai - and the people there will happily extol the virtues of Capitalist &quot;freedom.&quot;

[Stormmey]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jamaica_dreamin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Welcome home. Nice to see you </div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">We missed (or I did anyway) </div></div>


Thanks! </div></div>

Welcome back Tuffy....I missed you

[britisha]

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(((T GEEE)))

Good fi si yuh face innah di place....welcome back.