My boy Malvo

[Wendy]

Re: My boy Malvo

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

There is plenty of evidence that many have ended up in similar circumstances.....maybe not killing foreigners in a foreign country but the many local murders and crimes are part of our culture of neglect and economic migration.

As for the proceeds of her book being blood-money. I think that is way too harsh...she did not kill nor encouraged her son to kill anyone.

Yes he may have come under the influence of a madman due to her putting her son in his care but did she know that the man was doing anything criminal other than helping folks to travel to the USA?

That is one reason for her to write a book. Let's here her side of the narrative. </div></div>

Hmmmn.. TG yuh mek some good points. However, I am conflicted. There is a reason why there are laws on the books to prevent criminals from profiting from their criminal behaviour. An in a way I see this as her trying to profit from her son's crime. I guess it is all in the angle in which she writes the book. So far, most of her past interviews she seem defensive when told she did not play a &quot;positive&quot; role in Malvo's life. If shi coming wid it, I hope she doesn't play the victim of Malvo's circumstance.

But I hear yuh

[Cultcha]

Re: My boy Malvo

If the profits from the book went to charity that would be one thing but it's pretty heartless if she ends up earning a red cent from this IMHO.

[Yuriatin]

Re: My boy Malvo

Yes, she has seemed defensive in the past.

But I can't entirely blame her - people were practically throwing stones at this woman.

I don't know how I'd react if I were in her shoes.

Sad thing, all 'round.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WeNdY</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

There is plenty of evidence that many have ended up in similar circumstances.....maybe not killing foreigners in a foreign country but the many local murders and crimes are part of our culture of neglect and economic migration.

As for the proceeds of her book being blood-money. I think that is way too harsh...she did not kill nor encouraged her son to kill anyone.

Yes he may have come under the influence of a madman due to her putting her son in his care but did she know that the man was doing anything criminal other than helping folks to travel to the USA?

That is one reason for her to write a book. Let's here her side of the narrative. </div></div>

Hmmmn.. TG yuh mek some good points. However, I am conflicted. There is a reason why there are laws on the books to prevent criminals from profiting from their criminal behaviour. An in a way I see this as her trying to profit from her son's crime. I guess it is all in the angle in which she writes the book. So far, most of her past interviews she seem defensive when told she did not play a &quot;positive&quot; role in Malvo's life. If shi coming wid it, I hope she doesn't play the victim of Malvo's circumstance.

But I hear yuh
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[Tuff Gong]

Re: My boy Malvo

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WeNdY</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hmmmn.. TG yuh mek some good points. However, I am conflicted. There is a reason why there are laws on the books to prevent criminals from profiting from their criminal behaviour. </div></div>

She is not a criminal!
She says she is trying to clear her name.
She want to tell her own story, even if this was the only reason and she was some how involved in her son's decision<span style="font-style: italic">(s)</span> to hurt or harm some folks I would still think it would be a good thing to write a book!

[Tuff Gong]

Re: My boy Malvo

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kotch_Foot_Milo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If the profits from the book went to charity that would be one thing but it's pretty heartless if she ends up earning a red cent from this IMHO. </div></div>

Maybe lost in all of this was the fact that she tried to migrate from Jamaica for economic reasons, why should she donate the profit from any book or other ventures to charity?

This lady, as someone remarked, was practically stoned in the streets and put out of her house, her life threatened.
I think a book is the least offensive option and I think she should profit.
As i have said before it might serve a lesson/warning to others to avoid similar mistakes.

[R_C]

Re: My boy Malvo

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WeNd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I guess it is all in the angle in which she writes the book.</div></div>

Wendy, here is an angle. Ten innocent people going about their daily business were murdered in cold blood. The lives of their families and of those who were critically injured and survived have been irrevocably changed.

If there were not 10 dead bodies in the streets of DC there would be no interest in this book and no publisher would care about this woman's or her son's story. If he had not been a part of this mass murder who would want to read this book ?

Let's not fool ourselves. Dead bodies = book sales.

Blood money.

[Tuff Gong]

Re: My boy Malvo

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rollin_Calf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WeNd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I guess it is all in the angle in which she writes the book.</div></div>

Wendy, here is an angle. Ten innocent people going about their daily business were murdered in cold blood. The lives of their families and of those who were critically injured and survived have been irrevocably changed.

If there were not 10 dead bodies in the streets of DC there would be no interest in this book and no publisher would care about this woman's or her son's story. If he had not been a part of this mass murder who would want to read this book ?

Let's not fool ourselves. Dead bodies = book sales.

Blood money. </div></div>


Pretty huge leap, when the lady is just trying to clear her name?
She did not kill ten folks.
She did not encourage her son to go crazy and kill ten folks.
From the story in the onlinem she did not say the book will be about the ten dead folks.

What has happened is that she has been reviled, scorned and attacked for being the mother of a lunatic who helped kill ten folks in the USA.

Some people hire high-powered Counsel and/or Public Image Agencies to shape their image in the public, apparently she cannot afford such devices.

I think a book is a good option. She has not been allowed to lead a quiet life afterwards, so she might as well put her side of the story in print, where intelligent persons, without the emotional need for revenge on someone who has done no harm, can read and judge for themselves...after hearing all/most sides.

[johnnycakes]

Re: My boy Malvo

Right RC,
Money has no morals.
If it sells, they'll publish it.
Violent, misogynist video games and movies sell by the millions.

That said, the woman lost her son. He might well have been a problem child for her, perhaps mentally ill. Writing this book may be a way to help her get over the trauma.
Were she independently wealthy, I'd say she should donate ALL money to the families of the victims who need the money. If she's dirt poor but makes a million then she should donate a big part of it to those families.

Yes it would be best if she didn't benefit from the killings but this is the United States where money doesn't talk; it swears and the money will flow from the book. It might as well be the good that comes out of the evil done.

[Tuff Gong]

Re: My boy Malvo

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johnnycakes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes it would be best if she didn't benefit from the killings but this is the United States where money doesn't talk; it swears and the money will flow from the book. It might as well be the good that comes out of the evil done.
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Can <span style="font-weight: bold">you</span> or <span style="font-weight: bold">anyone</span> demonstrate satisfactorily how if the lady writes a book to clear her name, tell her side of the story and even became wealthy from it she would be benefiting from the <span style="font-weight: bold">killings</span>?

[johnnycakes]

Re: My boy Malvo

Tuff Gong,
If the killings were not committed by her son, she would not be writing the book.

[britisha]

Re: My boy Malvo

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tuff Gong</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kotch_Foot_Milo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If the profits from the book went to charity that would be one thing but it's pretty heartless if she ends up earning a red cent from this IMHO. </div></div>

Maybe lost in all of this was the fact that she tried to migrate from Jamaica for economic reasons, why should she donate the profit from any book or other ventures to charity?

This lady, as someone remarked, was practically stoned in the streets and put out of her house, her life threatened.
I think a book is the least offensive option and I think she should profit.
As i have said before it might serve a lesson/warning to others to avoid similar mistakes. </div></div>

TG, I think writing this book might spell more trouble for her....over time this story might just fade away...writing this book is re-opening the can of worms; dass yyy mi seh mek sleeping dawgs lie.

Many already made up their minds about her, so as I said she better cum good or it will only be worse...donating proceeds or a part to the families would be a nice gesture and might even let her get the absolution she seeks.

[Tuff Gong]

Re: My boy Malvo

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Faithfull</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> TG, I think writing this book might spell more trouble for her....over time this story might just fade away...</div></div>
Apparently that did not work.

Judging from the outtaview in the papers and brutal tone of the posts so far this lady who raised a madman that helped to murder 10 folks in the USA, still has some splaining to do!

[mountaingal]

Re: My boy Malvo

Malvo was born in Kingston, Jamaica, in 1985 to Una James. His father, Leslie, doted on his young son, according to Schetky.

Leslie Malvo worked off-island, and during his long absences, Malvo was“ inconsolable,” Schetky said.

James suspected Leslie of infidelity and moved with her son to a small, rural part of Jamaica without telling him where they had gone. “Lee was devastated by the loss of his father,” she noted.


<span style="font-weight: bold">Violence Characterizes Boyhood</span>

<span style="font-weight: bold">It was around this time that James began to take her rage out on her son, according to Schetky, by beating him with switches, brooms, and belts.</span>

“Lee responded to the abuse by being compliant,” Schetky said.“ He learned that if he put himself in a trance, the corporal punishment didn't hurt as much.”

In addition to being a victim of violence, he was a witness, too. At age 7, while walking to school alone, Malvo saw a man killed by assailants. “At a later age he was grazed by a bullet himself on the streets of Kingston,” Schetky said.

Malvo's cousin was also murdered when Malvo was a young boy.

When Malvo was 8, James left Jamaica to obtain work, and Malvo began a series of transient placements. He had attended 14 schools by the time he was in high school, she noted, and had infrequent contact with his mother until he moved to Antigua as a young teenager to be with her.

Together they lived in a shack with no electricity or plumbing until James moved out for a period of eight months, leaving her son to fend for himself.


Full story at Psychiatry News online

[Tuff Gong]

Re: My boy Malvo


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: johnnycakes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tuff Gong,
If the killings were not committed by her son, she would not be writing the book. </div></div>

She also would not be thrown out of her home, stoned in the streets, excoriated in the press and scorned by her own countrymen and women if her crazy son did not do what he did.
So she has paid a price!

I suspect there is another dimension to this, but I am not one for conspiracy theories, which I cannot prove.

Additionally from iservation on this Board and of Coloured Folks generally <span style="font-style: italic">(I am no expert on whites)</span>, I feel comfortable to say if she was born a male, called <span style="font-weight: bold">Buju</span> <span style="font-style: italic">(who admitted to trafficking in Blood Diamonds)</span> or Jah obs<span style="font-weight: bold">Cure</span> <span style="font-style: italic">(who was convicted violent rape and robbery)</span>, she would have a better run in the Court Of Public Opinion.