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[Andrewnaqi]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: remo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kotch_Foot_Milo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">... of the people in my department of 24 workers just got handed pink slips. Their jobs have been re-located to Bangalore India. Nuff tears a flow and I need a drink!!!!

Dyam! </div></div>

That's 2 bad.....
but yet here you are on the internet </div></div>

[johnnycakes]

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For Kotch Foot Milo and all,

After checking in with Jamaicans.com this morning I went to ZNET where I found this very related article . It parallels what happened to those at Milo's office and what is happening every day in the down-sliding United States.
Take a few minutes to read this;

Welcome To The 2011 American Dream
By Saul Landau

Tuesday, January 11, 2011
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“What’s good for General Motors is good for the country,” was a statement attributed to former GM CEO Charles Wilson in 1953, during hearings before the Senate Armed Services Committee. Could he, as Defense Secretary, make a decision adverse to the interests of General Motors? Wilson assured the Committee such a situation was inconceivable &quot;because for years I thought what was good for the country was good for General Motors and vice versa&quot;. Later this statement got reduced.

But the words resonated because, GM employed more workers than the US government – second only to the number on payroll for Soviet state industries. In 1955, General Motors became the first American corporation to pay taxes of over $1 billion. (Wikipedia)

Behind Wilson’s apparent gaffe, however, GM had its gigantic reality base. It did create many millions of jobs, not only in the direct manufacture , shipping and sale of cars, trucks, and other products, but in its peripheral stimulus for rubber, glass, and all the other components required to make a car.

In the 1950s, the United States was the producing mammoth of the world. Banks made loans to companies that then produced goods. That America has evolved into a center for exporting jobs and playing with (gambling) money not investing it in US production.

General Motors executives could claim today “what’s good for their company is good for the country” if they referred to China where it manufactures more autos than in the United States. GM now earns more from foreign sales than it does from US car sales. A skilled welder for GE in Michigan in the 1980s earned $35 an hour; his equivalent in today’s Mexico doesn’t earn that much in a day.

The much heralded – by Bill Clinton, for example – “globalization process” stimulated General Electric, once the company who hired Ronald Reagan as a TV host to represent their “Americanism,” has repeatedly reduced its US staff. Recently, however, it announced plans to hire more than 1,000 Brazilian workers for a new plant it will initiative down there for a cost of over half a billion dollars. GE also plans to invest $2 billion in its Chinese operations.

Corporate headquarters can remain in the United States, but the guts of the old companies – remember “as American as Mom, apple pie and Chevrolet”? – reside in greener pastures for production and sales. US workers became simply too costly, even as the corporations cut their wages and benefits steadily from 1973 on.

When the credit bubble burst along with the inflated housing bubble, the companies looked to India, China, Brazil and Indonesia where economies were growing and wages remained “reasonable.” They could produce and sell their goods more easily there and slice higher US payrolls. That equals profit – or capitalism.

Corporate profits rise, meaning good news for the stock market, and wages drop or stagnate (more productivity per worker). In addition, the large pool of long-term unemployed tends to keep wages down. Without full employment, credit and housing US sales will not make robust comebacks and poor people will not return to their consumer habits quite so easily.

After a decade of depression in the 1930s, US entry into World War II brought a monster-sized surge in government spending, which also translated into massive job creation – and economic boom. As corporate profits rose in manufacturing, the companies hired more workers and expanded, because paid workers bought stuff – even before some genius thought of developing shopping malls.

In 2011 consumers in the consumer society don’t have the money or credit to do what they’ve been conditioned for. They owe money and struggle to pay their rent or mortgage payments and worry about not having a pension; and the now seemingly uncertain future of social security.

The media duly reports the condition of the Dow Jones Industrial Average although most of those who say those words – like their listeners – don’t understand what they mean. Wall Street has risen. The GM that needed our bail-out money makes its products elsewhere; its executives shudder at the notion they had to take money from the hated government.

Investors and traders celebrated the new year, thinking the market will boom in 2011. The tens of millions unemployed, foreclosed or already homeless went to sleep early – to escape the pessimism that has descended on the middle and lower middle classes in much of the country. Their home prices, the basis of their future, have slipped, their jobs if they still have them have grown insecure and their grown kids have moved back in.

The Republicans who control the House will try to cut Social Security and Medicare – they don’t dare tinker with the useless defense budget. Some Democrats will get bought by the usual buyers. Members of both Houses will demand more tax cuts – from which banks, corporations and the disgustingly rich will benefit – on the grounds that this will create jobs; not. The energy lobbies will successfully deter moves to make serious inroads in emissions and our leaders will continue to talk of the American dream – which will still be there for the poor and much of the middle class, when they’re sleeping.

Landau’s new film is WILL THE REAL TERRORIST PLEASE STAND UP. CounterPunch published his BUSH AND BOTOX WORLD.

[remo]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: remo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kotch_Foot_Milo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">... of the people in my department of 24 workers just got handed pink slips. Their jobs have been re-located to Bangalore India. Nuff tears a flow and I need a drink!!!!

Dyam! </div></div>

That's 2 bad.....
but yet here you are on the internet </div></div>

</div></div>

What dat for?

yuh think If I was with a company that fired half the staff in one day I would be any where near a computer surfing the internet for the rest of that week....No wonder dem outsourcing....

[kia027]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: remo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: remo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kotch_Foot_Milo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">... of the people in my department of 24 workers just got handed pink slips. Their jobs have been re-located to Bangalore India. Nuff tears a flow and I need a drink!!!!

Dyam! </div></div>

That's 2 bad.....
but yet here you are on the internet </div></div>

</div></div>


What dat for?

yuh think If I was with a company that fired half the staff in one day I would be any where near a computer surfing the internet for the rest of that week....No wonder dem outsourcing....
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He can post from his iphone eno and can have lunch break and a look next job too eno!

(((KFM))) I know this must be painful to watch

[remo]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kia</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: remo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: remo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[quote=Kotch_Foot_Milo]...
That's 2 bad.....
but yet here you are on the internet </div></div>

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What dat for?

yuh think If I was with a company that fired half the staff in one day I would be any where near a computer surfing the internet for the rest of that week....No wonder dem outsourcing....
</div></div>

He can post from his iphone eno and can have lunch break and a look next job too eno!

(((KFM))) I know this must be painful to watch </div></div>

Sarry dont buy dat...di guy posted 3 times before 9:30 AM...dats a long break or a very early lunch....I guess I am the only one who think's this is bizarre behaviour given the circumstances

[RichD]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: remo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Sarry dont buy dat...di guy posted 3 times before 9:30 AM...dats a long break or a very early lunch....I guess I am the only one who think's this is bizarre behaviour given the circumstances </div></div>

place i work long time ago went thru a downsizing exercise...tuesday morning just started calling people and walking them out...nobody worked that day..the whole days was spent in break rooms..on the phone to other locations where exercise was also happening.. .chatting in the halls.

[Cultcha]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: remo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Sarry dont buy dat...di guy posted 3 times before 9:30 AM...dats a long break or a very early lunch....<span style="font-weight: bold">I guess I am the only one who think's this is bizarre behaviour given the circumstances</span> </div></div>

I was just thinking... not since my married days have I had someone question my behavior. LOL!

I work the afternoon/evening shift this week but went in <span style="font-weight: bold">on my own time</span> this morning for the announced meeting in which the bomb was dropped.

Whew! I forgot what all that explaining feels like.

Anyway, tonight I hope to sleep.

[CyberPhobic]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: remo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kia</div><div class="ubbcode-body">He can post from his iphone eno and can have lunch break and a look next job too eno!

(((KFM))) I know this must be painful to watch </div></div>

Sarry dont buy dat...di guy posted 3 times before 9:30 AM...dats a long break or a very early lunch....I guess I am the only one who think's this is bizarre behaviour given the circumstances </div></div>

[Skelly]

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It is disgusting but it is what it is....nowadays ppl need to go grassroots and become their own bosses...because all the big companies are shipping out to India and China and wherever pays cheaper.

Currently I have my eggs in a couple baskets.... I work with 2 agencies right now but I am looking forward to launching my home business which my mother will run, and also looking into another business venture that was discussed in the pet shack

[Nunya]

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In the pet shack? Yuh a go breed dawg?

[kia027]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nunya</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In the pet shack? Yuh a go breed dawg? </div></div>

she gwine open a spot for canine parties check it out in the pet shack

[Skelly]

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No I am going to be a canine event planner

[chitowngirl]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: remo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Sarry dont buy dat...di guy posted 3 times before 9:30 AM...dats a long break or a very early lunch....I guess I am the only one who think's this is bizarre behaviour given the circumstances </div></div>
how yuh soh blastid miserable?

as fi di bizarre behavior ... well, it takes one to know one

[Wendy]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Skelly</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It is disgusting but it is what it is....nowadays ppl need to go grassroots and become their own bosses...because all the big companies are shipping out to India and China and wherever pays cheaper.

Currently I have my eggs in a couple baskets.... I work with 2 agencies right now but I am looking forward to launching my home business which my mother will run, and also looking into another business venture that was discussed in the pet shack </div></div>

I already added my fears as it pertains to everyone seeking to own their own (see below). Not discouraging it .. its' just that even that has its pitfalls

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Some will say 9-5 not cutting anymore ..have your own. <span style="font-weight: bold">But what will happen when everybody a own dem own and the buying power of people [the consumer] a get diminished </span>! </div></div>

[CeaBee]

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suh skelly tell me more bout your eggs and baskets

<span style="font-size: 8pt">*tek out notepad</span>

me doan think a cat party bizness gwine tek off suh me woan bother try that one