This Was On Fox News (I'm Surprised).

[Derek]

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 11pt">Passengers From the Same Plane as the 'Underwear Bomber' Say He Was Escorted Onto the Plane Without a Passport</span></span>

Listen to these two local attorneys, CREDIBLE WITNESSES:

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I said this at the time that there was a guy in a suit accompanying the 'Brief Bomber'.

[Derek]

Re: This Was On Fox News (I'm Surprised).

People want to know how Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab was able to get onto an airplane in Amsterdam bound for Detroit with a bomb strapped to his leg when the Amsterdam airport uses the full-body &quot;see your naked butt&quot; scanners.

Security at the Amsterdam airport is run by ICTS, THE VERY SAME ISRAELI-OWNED COMPANY THAT RAN SECURITY AT 9-11 AIRPORTS.


Israeli 'Security' Firm ICTS Helped Provide 'Security' at Russia's Domodedovo Airport

The SAME ICTS that let the 'Shoe Bomber,' Richard Reid board.

The same ICTS that provide security at Mumbai.

The SAME ICTS that sent a 'sharply-dressed man' to help out the Christmas day 'underwear bomber' board a flight, with no money and NO PASSPORT.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ICTS.html

[RichD]

Re: This Was On Fox News (I'm Surprised).

wonder why his handlers didn't provide him with the required travel documents..low budget operation?

[Derek]

Re: This Was On Fox News (I'm Surprised).

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">wonder why his handlers didn't provide him with the required travel documents..low budget operation? </div></div>


This is from Wikipedia, NOT from Crazy Conspriacy &amp; Aliens Weekly:
<span style="font-weight: bold">Pre-boarding event</span>
A couple, Kurt and Lori Haskell, said that while waiting to board Flight 253 at Schiphol Airport, they saw a &quot;poor-looking black teenager around 16 or 17&quot; who Kurt Haskell claims was Abdulmutallab with a second man, who was &quot;sharp-dressed&quot;, possibly of Indian descent, around 50 years old, and who spoke &quot;in an American accent similar to my own.&quot;[9][10]

According to Lori Haskell, the second man told the ticket agent: &quot;<span style="font-weight: bold">We need to get this man on the plane. He doesn't have a passport</span>.&quot; The ticket agent said nobody was allowed to board without a passport. The well-dressed man replied: &quot;We do this all the time; he's from Sudan.&quot;[11][12] Lori Haskell said the two were then directed down a corridor, to talk to a manager. &quot;We never saw him again until he tried to blow up our plane,&quot; Haskell said of Abdulmutallab.[10]

<span style="font-weight: bold">Only U.S. citizens are permitted to board international flights to the U.S. without passports, and even then only if the airline confirms their identity and citizenship, said a spokesperson for U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP).</span>[13]

<span style="font-weight: bold">A CBP official and spokesman confirmed there were not any Sudanese refugees on the plane.</span>[13] The Dutch counter-terror agency said that Abdulmutallab presented a valid Nigerian passport and U.S. entry visa when he boarded Flight 253,[14][15] and after reviewing more than 200 hours of security camera recordings, did not find any indication that he had accomplices at the airport or that he acted suspiciously there.[16]

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 11pt">Haskell suggested authorities should, &quot;Put the video out there to prove I'm wrong.&quot;</span></span>[17] Federal agents later said they were trying to identify and find the well-dressed man.[18] U.S. authorities had initially discounted the passenger accounts, but <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 11pt">agents later said there was a growing belief that the man played a role in making sure Abdulmutallab &quot;did not get cold feet&quot;.</span></span>[19]

Rich, your answer is in the last line. (I think the guy was drugged up anyway)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Airlines_Flight_253

[RichD]

Re: This Was On Fox News (I'm Surprised).

haskell suggests/speculates that he was given a defective bomb in order to further the war on terror agenda.

if this was part of the plan why not just provide him with proper travel documentation rather than risk exposure or failure of the plan?

[Derek]

Re: This Was On Fox News (I'm Surprised).

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">haskell suggests/speculates that he was given a defective bomb in order to further the war on terror agenda.

if this was part of the plan why not just provide him with proper travel documentation rather than risk exposure or failure of the plan? </div></div>

How is there a risk of exposure or failure when a man in a suit can get you onto a plane without a passport?

As for documents, I wasn't part of the plot Rich. I don't know. What I do know is you can't go through some airports these days without people leering at your parts.

[RichD]

Re: This Was On Fox News (I'm Surprised).

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

How is there a risk of exposure or failure when a man in a suit can get you onto a plane without a passport?

As for documents, I wasn't part of the plot Rich. I don't know. What I do know is you can't go through some airports these days without people leering at your parts.
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the man in the suit had to intervene after he was refused boarding ..suppose the man in the sut had been delayed on the way to the airport?....and why wasn't the man in the suit with him right away? why did they risk attracting attention to this passenger.

even richard reid had proper travel documantation )apparently several versions)

[Derek]

Re: This Was On Fox News (I'm Surprised).

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

How is there a risk of exposure or failure when a man in a suit can get you onto a plane without a passport?

As for documents, I wasn't part of the plot Rich. I don't know. What I do know is you can't go through some airports these days without people leering at your parts.
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the man in the suit had to intervene after he was refused boarding ..suppose the man in the sut had been delayed on the way to the airport?....and why wasn't the man in the suit with him right away? why did they risk attracting attention to this passenger.

even richard reid had proper travel documantation )apparently several versions) </div></div>

Intervene? Where on earth did you get that?

Read the above carefully and you'll find Wikipedia (and every other account I've read) claims he was WITH a man in a suit.

'We do this all the time' implies (to me anyway) that they were together.

[neutral]

Re: This Was On Fox News (I'm Surprised).

If mutallab really was a part of some Us conspiracy what are his chances now of surviving,a good indication would be if something mysterious was to happen to him in prison.

[Derek]

Re: This Was On Fox News (I'm Surprised).

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Natral</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If mutallab really was a part of some Us conspiracy what are his chances now of surviving,a good indication would be if something mysterious was to happen to him in prison. </div></div>

If it hasn't already. Would we really be told?

[neutral]

Re: This Was On Fox News (I'm Surprised).

Well it would look fairly obvious if he didnt appear in court.

[Derek]

Re: This Was On Fox News (I'm Surprised).

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Natral</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well it would look fairly obvious if he didnt appear in court. </div></div>


He would be an unwitting, drugged part of it all.



Has he been convicted yet?

[RichD]

Re: This Was On Fox News (I'm Surprised).

trial date has just been set

[RichD]

Re: This Was On Fox News (I'm Surprised).

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Intervene? Where on earth did you get that?

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<span style="font-style: italic">Kurt and Lori Haskell think the U.S. government was behind the whole thing.

&quot;It was intentional that it went this far to further the war on terror, to get body scanners in the airports, to increase the TSA's budget, to renew the Patriot Act and whatever other reasons you want to list,&quot; Kurt Haskell told FOX 2.

The Haskells say in Amsterdam before boarding the flight to Detroit, they witnessed Abdulmutallab arguing with a ticket agent at the gate because he didn't have a passport <span style="font-weight: bold">when a man in a tan suit with an American accent intervened</span>.</span>
here

[Suesumba]

Re: This Was On Fox News (I'm Surprised).

what is this suit made of? can't be gabardine. no one takes gabardine seriously.

i don't have anything worthwhile to add....

<span style="font-size: 23pt"> <span style="font-weight: bold"> carry on .....</span> </span>