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Re: Mubarak steps down...where next
<span style="font-size: 26pt"><span style="color: #FF0000"><span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">FINALLY</span>!</span></span>
Israel muss be shiating!
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also Saudi Arabia...but u can bet the phone lines between the three countries a bun up like watComment
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i'm amazed and moved by how things have unfolded in Egypt.Comment
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i'm amazed and moved by how things have unfolded in Egypt. </div></div>
Agreed!
It's great to see what can be achieved when people stick together to demand a change in their leadership and circumstance.
Despots around the world take note!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">also Saudi Arabia...</div></div>
Also Jordan, Yemen..Comment
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<span style="color: #FF0000"><span style="font-weight: bold">I AM DISAPPOIN</span>TED</span> I wanted them to take him in the street and kick and beat him. Oh well I will just settle with that
OK SYRIA is NEXT. Johnnycake's Beloved CUBA, Then the mother of them all SAUDI ARABIA.Comment
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Syria? A possibility.
Saudi Arabia? Unlikely.
A popular uprising in Cuba ? Only in your dreams. There are many reasons for why I say this but basically it is because the people of Cuba feel that they have benefited by the revolution and the socialist economy and that these benefits would disappear with a change back to what was which is what the United States is working towards.
For some scholarly views on Cuba check out some of the reports here: http://web.gc.cuny.edu/bildnercenter...gingCuba.shtml
For what the U.S State department thinks check out www.cafc.gov
Read a bit of each and see just how childish, and propagandistic and unrealistic the State Department site is relative to the Bildbner center site content.
On Egypt, the fact that Mubarak is planing on staying at Sharm-El-Sheik is potentially troubling in the event that the Armed Forces decides he should be returned to office.
Further, as in Tunisia if the basic structures of both the electoral system and the economic systems are not radically changed, the problems that created the uprising will continue to exist in Egypt.
If the electoral system becomes truly representative then the changes to the economic structure will follow as sure as night follows day. If they retain the prevailing world model of multi-party systems wherein the MEMBERS OF THE PARTIES and not the people themselves choose those who are to become the people's representatives, then those elected will continue to serve the needs of the status quo, their party and the pro-capitalist economic system that has created much of the problem in Egypt and there will be not much real change.
Watch Tunisia and now Egypt.
We are only seeing the first acts of what are to be plays of many acts and it will be years before we see the final outcome..Comment
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Then there's this:
"You don’t have to be a leftist to acknowledge the imperial calculations behind the administrations attempted downwardly calibrated management of Egyptian expectations. Last Sunday, the conservative New York Times columnist Ross Douthat wrote with admiration about how “Obama’s response to the Egyptian crisis has crystallized his entire foreign policy vision. ….it’s clear,” Douthat noted, “that the administration’s real goal has been to dispense with Mubarak while keeping the dictator’s military subordinates very much in charge. If the Obama White House has its way, any opening to democracy will be carefully stage-managed by an insider like Omar Suleiman, the former general and Egyptian intelligence chief who’s best known in Washington for his cooperation with the C.I.A.’s rendition program. This isn’t softheaded peacenik dithering,” Douthat added with approval: “It’s cold-blooded realpolitik” (emphasis added)."8
from this article at today's ZNET:
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kotch_Foot_Milo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i'm amazed and moved by how things have unfolded in Egypt. </div></div>
Agreed!
It's great to see what can be achieved when people stick together to demand a change in their leadership and circumstance.
Despots around the world take note! </div></div>
there's a young ethiopian man on my team, and he is beside himself. he says that mubarak should have resigned yesterday, instead of waiting and then being put in the shameful position of being toppled. the young man wants this kind of change to happen in ethiopia, but he says the tribal politics wont let that happen.Comment
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: evanovitch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> </div></div>
"We spoke and acted as if, given the opportunity for self-government, we would quickly create utopias. Instead injustice, even tyranny, is rampant."
Julius Nyere
Evanovitch,
This is a very good and now appropriate quote for the situations in both Egypt and TunisiaComment
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i wonder how israel is taking the news...Comment
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i wonder how israel is taking the news... </div></div> im sure they were kept in the loop and have received assurances of a favourable outcome.When its hot in the jungle of peace I go swimming in the ocean of love.....Comment
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With them usual selfish analysis of course, bout " what about us", since the world revolves around them.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MGee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i wonder how israel is taking the news... </div></div>Comment
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