Buju

**RichD** · 02-24-2011, 08:38 AM

Re: Buju

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Reading people arguing that it's ridiculous to suggest there was a conspiracy to frame Buju because he's not that important, while others claim he <span style="font-style: italic">was</span> set up, has anyone considered:

<span style="font-weight: bold">Maybe the guy who famed Buju didn't know who he was at first and just saw a black man with dreadlocks.</span> </div></div> so he ran the fool proof blackman with dreads weakness scam?

**Derek** · 02-24-2011, 08:40 AM

Re: Buju

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Reading people arguing that it's ridiculous to suggest there was a conspiracy to frame Buju because he's not that important, while others claim he <span style="font-style: italic">was</span> set up, has anyone considered:

<span style="font-weight: bold">Maybe the guy who famed Buju didn't know who he was at first and just saw a black man with dreadlocks.</span> </div></div> so he ran the fool proof blackman with dreads weakness scam? </div></div>

Yeah... maybe...
I was just making a suggestion.

**jah_yout** · 02-24-2011, 11:32 AM

Re: Buju

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Reading people arguing that it's ridiculous to suggest there was a conspiracy to frame Buju because he's not that important, while others claim he <span style="font-style: italic">was</span> set up, has anyone considered:

<span style="font-weight: bold">Maybe the guy who famed Buju didn't know who he was at first and just saw a black man with dreadlocks.</span> </div></div>

are you suggesting the guy met buju by pure chance blind luck?

that is absurd...
the u.s. gov't hired the guy out for the specific purpose of getting close to buju and facilitated everything...probably down to the seating plan of the plane

**RichD** · 02-24-2011, 11:33 AM

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so the old adage is false.....you can force the horse to drink

**jah_yout** · 02-24-2011, 11:39 AM

Re: Buju

no the adage is true...BUT;

i am just responding to derek's question...
the answer is a big fat NO...

the criminal who spoke with buju on the plane was not a chance meeting of destiny;
it was arranged by the forces who wanted buju;

are you familiar with the men in newburgh, new york accused of bomb plots against a synagogue? they got life in prison;

they were basically hounded for months by an fbi informant- a criminal hired out & paid by the fbi-- to hound these guys, give them money & offer them money to come up with some kind of 'terrorist' plot--- anything at all;

what i am saying is that you can sometimes create a crime case if you pursue it hard enough...a person in certain situations may eventually give in to the pursuer's wiles;

is this the job of government to create criminals?

if they had watched bernie madoff 1/100th as closely as they pursued buju a lot of people would not be broke right now & his son may be alive

**RichD** · 02-24-2011, 11:42 AM

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same thing happened here with the Mississauga 17...funny the informant is still trying to get paid

**jah_yout** · 02-24-2011, 11:43 AM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The unseemly thing about the so-called Newburgh 4 case, as the Voice wrote last year, was that Malik didn't stumble across a legitimate terror cell already plotting to rain destruction on American soil.

Instead, in both the Newburgh and Albany cases, he needed long periods of time to recruit these men and spin elaborate tales about his ties to terrorist organizations, all the while plying his targets with cash and gifts to go along with the plot.

The so-called Newburgh 4 -- Onta Williams, Laguerre Payen, James Cromitie, and David Williams IV -- were all low-level crooks who only got involved at Hussein's insistence. Left alone, it is highly doubtful they ever would have come up with the scheme.

Lawyers for the men used the entrapment defense, which made sense given the circumstances, but it didn't work. All four men face up to life in prison. Perhaps the judge will take Hussein's role in manipulating the men into account when he sentences them.

In the recordings, Cromitie is heard making derogatory comments about Jews and talking about violence, but he also expressed doubts about the plot. Articles have described Cromitie as the "mastermind," but really it was Hussein who was pulling the strings.

The defense, as the Associated Press noted today, tried to reduce the effect of the tape recordings by labeling them a "movie written, produced, and directed" by the FBI.

Hussein "is a liar, straight-up," Cromitie's lawyer, Vincent Briccetti, told jurors, according to the AP. "He's not just any old liar -- he lied to you."

Added Briccetti, quoted by the AP: "Without the help of the FBI, Cromitie wasn't going to do anything." </div></div>

**evanovitch** · 02-24-2011, 11:46 AM

Re: Buju

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Derek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Reading people arguing that it's ridiculous to suggest there was a conspiracy to frame Buju because he's not that important, while others claim he <span style="font-style: italic">was</span> set up, has anyone considered:

<span style="font-weight: bold">Maybe the guy who famed Buju didn't know who he was at first and just saw a black man with dreadlocks.</span> </div></div>

are you suggesting the guy met buju by pure chance blind luck?

that is absurd...
<span style="font-weight: bold">the u.s. gov't hired the guy out for the specific purpose of getting close to buju and facilitated everything...probably down to the seating plan of the plane</span> </div></div>

**evanovitch** · 02-24-2011, 11:49 AM

Re: Buju

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jah_yout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">no the adage is true...BUT;

i am just responding to derek's question...
the answer is a big fat NO...

the criminal who spoke with buju on the plane was not a chance meeting of destiny;
it was arranged by the forces who wanted buju;

are you familiar with the men in newburgh, new york accused of bomb plots against a synagogue? they got life in prison;

they were basically hounded for months by an fbi informant- a criminal hired out & paid by the fbi-- to hound these guys, give them money & offer them money to come up with some kind of 'terrorist' plot--- anything at all;

what i am saying is that you can sometimes create a crime case if you pursue it hard enough...a person in certain situations may eventually give in to the pursuer's wiles;

is this the job of government to create criminals?

if they had watched bernie madoff 1/100th as closely as they pursued buju a lot of people would not be broke right now & his son may be alive </div></div>

dis is y Jcan figive politiican n biniz man a yaad even as dem tief di country down to poverty..an dis 2011 n we suppose fi no believe in di boogie man r di blackheart man...mi mumah

**evanovitch** · 02-24-2011, 11:50 AM

Re: Buju

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RichD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so the old adage is false.....you can force the horse to drink </div></div>

not ongle di horse but di whole herd...mi can imagine how many a revise dem plans fi still sneak out fi dem drugs wen dem a go do show...

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